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Title: Call Shove? Post by: UpTheMariners on October 26, 2008, 02:43:38 AM ok no info on villian apart from this hand.... (thoughts please on the 2nd hand)
***** Hand History for Game 1070043325 ***** $400.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, October 26, 01:49:12 ET 2008 Table 40 BB Sit Down 2 4 (c) (Real Money) Seat 1 is the button Seat 1: mikaelrudh ( $323.00 USD ) Seat 2: Mariners ( $396.00 USD ) Seat 3: AWhippet ( $295.28 USD ) Seat 4: july1999 ( $447.00 USD ) Seat 5: Globas ( $654.40 USD ) Seat 6: kungkong ( $548.10 USD ) Mariners posts small blind [$2.00 USD]. AWhippet posts big blind [$4.00 USD]. Dealt to Mariners [ 8d Aspades ] july1999 folds Globas folds kungkong folds mikaelrudh folds Mariners raises [$12.00 USD] AWhippet calls [$10.00 USD] ** Dealing Flop ** [ 4d, 5s, 3s ] Mariners bets [$22.00 USD] AWhippet calls [$22.00 USD] ** Dealing Turn ** [ 9s ] Mariners bets [$56.00 USD] AWhippet calls [$56.00 USD] ** Dealing River ** [ Th ] Mariners bets [$304.00 USD] AWhippet calls [$203.28 USD] Mariners shows [8d, Aspades ] AWhippet shows [4c, 2d ] AWhippet wins $587.56 USD from main pot then this 3mins later.... call? ***** Hand History for Game 1070043716 ***** $400.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, October 26, 01:52:59 ET 2008 Table 40 BB Sit Down 2 4 (c) (Real Money) Seat 3 is the button Seat 1: mikaelrudh ( $307.00 USD ) Seat 2: Mariners ( $400.00 USD ) Seat 3: AWhippet ( $585.56 USD ) Seat 4: july1999 ( $443.00 USD ) Seat 5: Globas ( $674.50 USD ) Seat 6: kungkong ( $548.10 USD ) july1999 posts small blind [$2.00 USD]. Globas posts big blind [$4.00 USD]. Dealt to Mariners [ 8c 8d ] kungkong folds mikaelrudh raises [$16.00 USD] Mariners raises [$52.00 USD] AWhippet raises [$88.00 USD] july1999 folds Globas folds mikaelrudh folds Mariners calls [$36.00 USD] ** Dealing Flop ** [ Th, Td, 4d ] Mariners checks AWhippet bets [$497.56 USD] Mariners.... Title: Re: Call Shove? Post by: totalise on October 26, 2008, 02:51:55 AM given the history, call instantly
Title: Re: Call Shove? Post by: Rookie (Rodney) on October 26, 2008, 02:53:17 AM When faced with these decisions we have to ask ourselves..
"What would Marty Smyth do?" Only you know the true answer here, you need to connect to his mind. Title: Re: Call Shove? Post by: Hairydude on October 26, 2008, 11:16:16 AM How long had maniac been playing at the table?? could he be trying to create an image on 1st hand?? probably unlikely as its a full buy in but nevertheless could he maybe overplaying due to the fact of the call with 2nd bottom pair earlier hand- he knows now that with the 1st hand you have him labelled a V loose player and so will call a shove. Against a player like this isn't it better to tighten right up to reduce variance and wait until you have a strongish hand which no doubt he will call/fire barrel after barrel.
His range is huge here from an overpair, to flush draw, to set, to air but ther is so much uncertainty I think it might be better waiting on better spot- he may well be on tilt but its an expensive guess unless you have other info than just the 1 previous hand Title: Re: Call Shove? Post by: sovietsong on October 26, 2008, 04:44:15 PM This is a spot I often struggle with, in the past I've snaped when facing a what apears to be a donkey. I probably lean towards the fold as you will hopefully find a better spot/get more info, 2 hands probably isnt enough to justify the cost of the call.
Title: Re: Call Shove? Post by: AlexMartin on October 27, 2008, 01:01:21 AM given the history, call instantly disagree, villain is a cs donk and didnt even play hand 1 terribly. he views u as spewtard aggro but given that he min 4b you pre in hand 2 he has a big pp/10 a lot more than AK/AQ. fold. Title: Re: Call Shove? Post by: MC on October 28, 2008, 02:57:22 PM disagree, villain is a cs donk and didnt even play hand 1 terribly. he views u as spewtard aggro but given that he min 4b you pre in hand 2 he has a big pp/10 a lot more than AK/AQ. fold. ^^Think I lean towards this, though gotta admit I hate folding here as could be in great spot. Title: Re: Call Shove? Post by: AgentChip109 on October 29, 2008, 10:12:46 AM When faced with these decisions we have to ask ourselves.. "What would Marty Smyth do?" Only you know the true answer here, you need to connect to his mind. lolololol btw i probs fold, but thats cos marty told me |