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Title: Job Application form....need help with a few questions.
Post by: Girgy85 on October 28, 2008, 11:55:58 AM
Right im applying for a Job back home in U.K to be a Police Community officer.

I am stuck on a couple of questions and need some ideas/hints at where to go with the questions! (Minds gone blank at the moment)

So here goes.....

Q2. It is vitally important that in their duties, Police Community Support Officers show respect for the lifestyles of other people.

Think of an example of a situation when you have shown respect for someone who had an important aspect of their lifestyle (for example, a deep-rooted moral or religious belief) that differed significantly from your own. You will be assessed in this question on your understanding and sensitivity to the differences you and this particular person had, and how you adapted what you said or did to suit their needs.


Tell us how the situation arose.
 
Tell us in detail what you did and what you said.
 
What did you learn about the other person from this experience?
 
How were you able to adapt what you did to suit the other person?
 
 
Q3. It is essential that Police Community Support Officers act without being told and strive to do an excellent job.

Tell us about a situation when you have acted without being told, gone beyond what was expected of you and even gone further than others would have done. You will be assessed in this question on your willingness to get fully involved and to work to the highest standards.


What was the situation and why did you feel the need to act?
 
Exactly what did you do and say?
 
If you hadn't acted as you did, what do you think the consequences for everyone involved would have been?


Im not asking for answers to the questions cos its all about the person applying but i just want a few hints and tips to what i should be heading for!!

Thanks guys and help would be useful.


Title: Re: Job Application form....need help with a few questions.
Post by: Acidmouse on October 28, 2008, 11:59:23 AM
Right im applying for a Job back home in U.K to be a Police Community officer.


lol, Halton Moor patrol 4tw


Title: Re: Job Application form....need help with a few questions.
Post by: Girgy85 on October 28, 2008, 12:02:23 PM
Right im applying for a Job back home in U.K to be a Police Community officer.


lol, Halton Moor patrol 4tw

Wont be patroling anywhere in Leeds so i might be ok with that one!!


Title: Re: Job Application form....need help with a few questions.
Post by: action man on October 28, 2008, 12:03:20 PM
patrol in australia there are lots of villains out there


Title: Re: Job Application form....need help with a few questions.
Post by: cia260895 on October 28, 2008, 12:07:40 PM
just quote:

I know what you're thinking. "Did he fire six shots or only five?" Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement I kind of lost track myself. But being as this is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself a question: Do I feel lucky? Well, do ya, punk?

Job should then be yours


Title: Re: Job Application form....need help with a few questions.
Post by: Acidmouse on October 28, 2008, 12:07:54 PM
Q2 is pretty standard, make up a story where you found people arguing/fighting over some bollocks religious thing and you acted as mediator in the situation. Maybe a anti fascist demo where lots of BNP people where there, and you diffused a situation or did x y z.

or for Q2 if you wish to take a gamble say you diffused dispute at moortown over poker game :P

Q3 look at a previous job, maybe involving human interaction, where you went the whole hog in supporting this person in a query/problem and went through hoops to resolve the situation.


Title: Re: Job Application form....need help with a few questions.
Post by: Girgy85 on October 28, 2008, 12:08:36 PM
patrol in australia there are lots of villains out there

Waiting for Horneris Witty response!!!


Title: Re: Job Application form....need help with a few questions.
Post by: Girgy85 on October 28, 2008, 12:09:48 PM
Q2 is pretty standard, make up a story where you found people arguing/fighting over some bollocks religious thing and you acted as mediator in the situation. Maybe a anti fascist demo where lots of BNP people where there, and you diffused a situation or did x y z.

Q3 look at a previous job, maybe involving human interaction, where you went the whole hog in supporting this person in a query/problem and went through hoops to resolve the situation.

Cheers dude its a start!! TY


Title: Re: Job Application form....need help with a few questions.
Post by: AndrewT on October 28, 2008, 12:11:24 PM
Whatever happened to police catching villains?

It seems they're just social workers these days.


Title: Re: Job Application form....need help with a few questions.
Post by: Girgy85 on October 28, 2008, 12:55:36 PM
Anymore hints/tips/situations i could put in??


Title: Re: Job Application form....need help with a few questions.
Post by: lazaroonie on October 28, 2008, 02:05:35 PM
Q2. It is vitally important that in their duties, Police Community Support Officers show respect for the lifestyles of other people.

Think of an example of a situation when you have shown respect for someone who had an important aspect of their lifestyle (for example, a deep-rooted moral or religious belief) that differed significantly from your own. You will be assessed in this question on your understanding and sensitivity to the differences you and this particular person had, and how you adapted what you said or did to suit their needs.


Tell us how the situation arose.

I walked into a local Chinese takeaway after a skinful round at my local, The fascist and firkin. Anyway as I got in there was this bloke having trouble ordering his food, the guy behind the counter was having trouble understanding him. The customer was getting a bit agitated, "Dont you speak fkin English you idiot ?", and making other racial slurs.
 
Tell us in detail what you did and what you said.


I could see that things were getting ugly so I said "alright mate calm down, I can speak chinese. what is it that you want anyway ?" - he replied "just some chicken fried rice and a pineapple fritter". I approached the counter, screwed up my face, put my fingers to my eyes and said "ah so! two cheekin flied lice and pinerapple flitter !!'.
 
What did you learn about the other person from this experience?

That they liked chicken fried too.
 
 


Title: Re: Job Application form....need help with a few questions.
Post by: Rod Paradise on October 28, 2008, 02:09:46 PM
Right im applying for a Job back home in U.K to be a Police Community officer.

I am stuck on a couple of questions and need some ideas/hints at where to go with the questions! (Minds gone blank at the moment)

So here goes.....

Q2. It is vitally important that in their duties, Police Community Support Officers show respect for the lifestyles of other people.

Think of an example of a situation when you have shown respect for someone who had an important aspect of their lifestyle (for example, a deep-rooted moral or religious belief) that differed significantly from your own. You will be assessed in this question on your understanding and sensitivity to the differences you and this particular person had, and how you adapted what you said or did to suit their needs.


Tell us how the situation arose.
 
Tell us in detail what you did and what you said.
 
What did you learn about the other person from this experience?
 
How were you able to adapt what you did to suit the other person?
 
 
Q3. It is essential that Police Community Support Officers act without being told and strive to do an excellent job.

Tell us about a situation when you have acted without being told, gone beyond what was expected of you and even gone further than others would have done. You will be assessed in this question on your willingness to get fully involved and to work to the highest standards.


What was the situation and why did you feel the need to act?
 
Exactly what did you do and say?
 
If you hadn't acted as you did, what do you think the consequences for everyone involved would have been?


Im not asking for answers to the questions cos its all about the person applying but i just want a few hints and tips to what i should be heading for!!

Thanks guys and help would be useful.

Anyone think that the results from those questions will be the police force only employing people who lie & invent stories to their own ends.... oh, right I get it.....


Title: Re: Job Application form....need help with a few questions.
Post by: Girgy85 on October 28, 2008, 02:18:39 PM
Im not gonna be lying i just didnt fully understand the meaning of the question and wanted some advice on which direction i needed to be going in!


Title: Re: Job Application form....need help with a few questions.
Post by: Rod Paradise on October 28, 2008, 02:21:17 PM
Im not gonna be lying i just didnt fully understand the meaning of the question and wanted some advice on which direction i needed to be going in!

Not a pop at you mate - but let's say I'm not hugely trusting of the constabulary.


Title: Re: Job Application form....need help with a few questions.
Post by: pokerfan on October 28, 2008, 02:22:43 PM
Q2 is pretty standard, make up a story where you found people arguing/fighting over some bollocks religious thing and you acted as mediator in the situation. Maybe a anti fascist demo where lots of BNP people where there, and you diffused a situation or did x y z.
q2 pretty standard,yeah happens to me every week.


Title: Re: Job Application form....need help with a few questions.
Post by: Bertpup on October 28, 2008, 02:54:32 PM
Q2

I wouldn't for for solving a dispute in the middle of the street as I'm guessing there are other questions that are asking for this. Try and think of something (which even if you don't agree with) where there is alot to talk and debate about.

I.e Your sister becoming a veggie because she hated the pain animals went through, you didnt agree with her because meat was great blah blah blah. But you respected her decision (which you really didnt) and you didnt try to force her back on to the good stuff.

I think the easiest thing to talk about would probably be the Iraq war as there are so many angles on it.

Q3 I'd just go for a work scenario where the team were really busy, boss told you to go home, you stayed without being asked job was done.


Title: Re: Job Application form....need help with a few questions.
Post by: Geo the Sarge on October 28, 2008, 03:15:19 PM
Why would you want to do this line of work mate? why not a full time policeman?

I, like Rod, am not very trusting of the constabulary as it is at present (we can agree now and again Rod.) The standard of policing is shocking in our area. I have had many run-ins with the local bobbies, not because I have done anything but due to their lack of response/attitude during certain incidents in our area.

On Sunday night there was a police car chase on our road which ended up with the car being chased leaving the road and crashing into a tree just outside our house. The lone policeman in the the souped up BMW managed to get to the driver as he tried to flee but after quite a struggle he managed to break free and done a runner.

The policeman made a half hearted attempt to chase, about 200 yards before throwing his hands in the air and wandering back to the scene. It took about another 10 minutes before any support arrived and when it did it was overkill.

7 - yes 7 police cars arrived within 5 minutes of each other and then a van, which was the dog section arrived.Aapart from the dog section none of them seemed to do anything. This is when the strangest of things happened. The policeman directed the dog section to the area that the villain had fled and they took their dog up that area.

The policeman then joined around 11 other officers around the crashed vehicle, with 4 or 5 of them clambering through the wreckage checking what was in the van.
This policeman, in the struggle, had actually ripped off what looked like the collar of a piece of clothing from the villain and whilst re-creating his story to the other officers, proceeded to pass said piece of clothing around his colleagues.

2 things struck me here.............. 1. Why didn't he give said clothing article to the dog section for the dog to have something to work on . 2. Why were all these pillocks trampling through a crime scene potentially ruining vital evidence.

It also annoyed me that all police cars were parked in single file on the road and with residents cars parked opposite were actually causing disruptions to traffic, whilst 10 metres away was a side street with ample space for them all to park. Worse was that no0one seemed to take charge, controlling traffic, securing the scene etc.

To make matters worse, the crash was in a spot used by the locals as a walkway and there were people walking right through the crash scene, one guy even picked up the number plate that had fallen off the crashed vehicle and stood examining it for 5-6 minutes before any officer even approached him to recover the item.

I was furious, giving the wife the ins and outs of what should be happening having had to arrange many scenes of crime in mt time in the Army. "Well go tell them" she says. So I did.

I left our flat and went over to the scene. I spoke to the officer who had been involved in the chase and pointed out the errors as detailed above. TBH he was pretty cool about it and admitted due to his struggle etc he was pretty pooped out and perhaps wasn't thinking straight, fair do's thought I but I do expect Policemen to be able to still have their wits about them.

However, 1 young bobby didn't take kindly to my free advice and started telling me to shut up and move away before I was arrested for "obstructing the police."

I was just about to put this guy right when I heard a voice I recognised " Hi Dicky" (my old Army nickname) "how's it going mate?" It was the dog handler who had just returned, a former colleague of mine who used to be an Army dog handler.

I explained my concerns to him and he asked that I wait across the road and he'd come talk to me. I crossed the road and took great pleasure as he then started whipping the others into shape, having them secure the scene, direct traffic, move their own vehicles to a better spot to allow traffic to flow etc. He later came over to speak to me with some superintendent guy who asked me to detail all that I had seen.

I took him upstairs for a cuppa and detailed all that had gone on and where I thought mistakes had been made. He seemed very grateful for the feedback and asked that I write it up for him which I am in the process of completing.



Listed below are the duties of a Police Community Support Officer:

All PCSOs will have the following powers:


Issuing of fixed penalty notices (e.g. riding on footpath; dog fouling; litter)
Power to confiscate alcohol and tobacco
Power to demand the name and address of a person acting in an anti-social manner
Power of entry to save life or prevent damage
Removal of abandoned vehicles
Additional powers are being considered by central government

How can they be effective without full police powers?

PCSOs are not police officers. A major part of the work of PCSO’s involves tasks that when undertaken by police officers do not require them to resort to using their full police powers. All PCSO’s will be given full training to enable them to take appropriate action in the event of difficult circumstances. They will be supervised by police officers and will have radio access to enable them to call for assistance should it be required.


Doesn't strike me as being too interesting and only releases more real officers to stand around, thumb up arse not giving a toss.

Geo





Title: Re: Job Application form....need help with a few questions.
Post by: Acidmouse on October 28, 2008, 03:19:57 PM
About 2 years ago I worked/taught at a local college in Leeds, my class was for special needs students. I thought it would be a good idea to invite the community police officer in to talk to the students about looking after themselves traveling to college etc.

The policeman was rather frank on his views of the police force and admitted openly that over 70% of the current police in Leeds were inappropriate and joined for completely the wrong reasons. I was more then shocked at some of the things he told us...


Title: Re: Job Application form....need help with a few questions.
Post by: Geo the Sarge on October 28, 2008, 03:35:26 PM
About 2 years ago I worked/taught at a local college in Leeds, my class was for special needs students. I thought it would be a good idea to invite the community police officer in to talk to the students about looking after themselves traveling to college etc.

The policeman was rather frank on his views of the police force and admitted openly that over 70% of the current police in Leeds were inappropriate and joined for completely the wrong reasons. I was more then shocked at some of the things he told us...

In the early nineties I was invited to Firhill High School (my local HS) to teach self defence to sixth formers. I had arranged a weekly visit over 6 weeks. It was great fun, nothing too technical, just basic how to defend yourself and restraining techniques. I got a great response from the kids, especially the females, many of whom had stories to tell of being molested/bag snatched etc.

4 weeks in and the local community bobby visited me at the office in Redford Barracks and started to lecture me on why iI shouldn't be encouraging violence within the youngsters at the school. I couldn't believe how naieve he was and he clearly didn't understand that these kids, more often had experienced far more violence than I was ever going to show them.

I invited him to my next lesson and had him join in as well as take time to speak to these kids. He certainly came away with a different view at the end of it and admitted that as much he was the local bobby, he had never had much time to mix with the kids as he had done on that day.

Geo


Title: Re: Job Application form....need help with a few questions.
Post by: Girgy85 on October 29, 2008, 06:07:15 AM
Thanks for your input Geo and others and if the opportunity arises to become a policeman after i become a PCSO then i may accept it but for now im just applying for the PCSO.