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Title: Shove or call?
Post by: T_Mar on November 03, 2008, 12:50:11 PM
PokerStars Game #21704241808: Tournament #116550504, $50+$5 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2008/11/02 15:25:19 ET
Table '116550504 167' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: golteb (2595 in chips)
Seat 2: Shakey71 (2620 in chips)
Seat 3: Letzer (3570 in chips)
Seat 4: paddy1485 (4065 in chips)
Seat 5: BoBAARun (2860 in chips)
Seat 6: T_Mar79 (4895 in chips)
Seat 7: uppino (6405 in chips)
Seat 8: bobby488 (2460 in chips)
Seat 9: ENorton79 (815 in chips)
bobby488: posts small blind 15
ENorton79: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to T_Mar79 [Ah Ac]
golteb: raises 60 to 90
Shakey71: folds
Letzer: folds
paddy1485: folds
BoBAARun: folds
T_Mar79: raises 135 to 225
uppino: folds
bobby488: folds
ENorton79: folds
golteb: calls 135
*** FLOP *** [Ts Td 8c]
golteb: checks
T_Mar79: checks
*** TURN *** [Ts Td 8c] [Js]
golteb: checks
T_Mar79: bets 325
golteb: calls 325
*** RIVER *** [Ts Td 8c Js] [2c]
golteb: bets 430
T_Mar79: ??

Thoughts on this hand please, not sure where the size of my 3 bet came from pre - I would normally be making it ~280 here, I check back the flop cos dont think he has a 10 very much from UTG so wanted to give him a chance to improve/bluff... Is there a case for raising river rather than just making cheap call?

thks


Title: Re: Shove or call?
Post by: Longy on November 03, 2008, 01:21:16 PM
I would bet the flop, the way stacks are set up. I would just bang, bang, bang 3 streets of value should get the lot in.

Just call the river don't think he donks many jacks here but does donk air/nut hands.


Title: Re: Shove or call?
Post by: Horneris on November 03, 2008, 01:22:55 PM
Shove the river, he has  Ahrt Jh and  Qc Qd a lot here. Maybe even like KJs and QJs


Title: Re: Shove or call?
Post by: MC on November 03, 2008, 02:30:46 PM
Yeah I'd bet the flop a majority of the time here...

I'd shove...looks like a missed draw, but he could pay you off with something here. If he has a ten, he has a ten...


Title: Re: Shove or call?
Post by: T_Mar on November 03, 2008, 02:35:01 PM
Shove the river, he has  Ahrt Jh and  Qc Qd a lot here. Maybe even like KJs and QJs

This was my thinking at the time, thought there were enough hands in his range I was ahead of to make it a shove!


Title: Re: Shove or call?
Post by: Horneris on November 03, 2008, 05:16:10 PM
hmm, i failed to see that he check called the turn then lead the river.