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Ok, my first time posting on PHA but this hand has been annoying me all night. Was playing the £75 freezeout at the international casino last night and we're at the final table, about 10-15 hands in. My image so far in the tournament has been very aggressive and I've been picking up a lot of small pots throughout to build my stack.

There are 9 players left with the blinds just up 600/1200 and average stack is about 23000 or so. Its folded round to me in the small blind (I have approx 20000 chips) and I look down at JJ. I raise to 3200 (should have made it 3600 but its not too relevant imo) and the bb calls, he has approx 15000. The flop comes 235 rainbow and I bet out 4000, knowing my hand is well disguised and it looks like I'm stealing. Sure enough, the BB moves all in for 8k or so more and I'm obv committed to call. I put him on A5 here or perhaps 45. Anyway, he flips A4 which leaves me a bit surprised. A jack came on the turn but river was a blank and I'm down to 5K in chips.

Could I have done anything different here or did the hand play itself? Obv im pretty sure I have best hand preflop and dont want to scare him off but even if he flat calls my bet on the flop I dont think I could get away from my set on the turn, especially with these chip stacks. Flame away!

Standard, nh, wp, ul.

just unlucky, blind on blind not much u can do.

standard bad beat story, noone ever folds here

I think you answer your question yourself. Of course you raise jacks, so of course you bet a good flop for you, so of course you snap call this shove.

If you folded Jacks at any point in this hand with stack sizes as they are, you'd be playing terrible

So yeah, it's just unlucky man...

The raise to 3200 means that you're pricing the big blind in to call with pretty much any two vaguely connected cards but given his stack, his cards and your image I'm surprised he didn't shove pre. I'm pretty sure I would.

When you've priced the big blind in then pretty much every board is dangerous but you can never pass an overpair. Even if you've only got six's you've got to get them in here.

Agentchip, I wouldnt really say it was a standard bad beat story though as the beat isn't really that bad as I was never a huge favourite. I'm not sure that the bb was committed to a pot size raise with any 2 cards here but I do agree that he should have probably pushed preflop with his hand, I would have done the same and I was hoping he was going to. I never really thought I did anything wrong in the hand but just wanted some other peoples views. I appreciate all of your inputs though, thanks.

edit: Evilpie, I just noticed to said any 2 connected cards priced him in, agree with you now although I still think its a marginal decision. Misread your post.

don't know if I've misread this but are you're saying this is a bad thing and op should have made it more pf?

I like the 3200 as it opens oppos shoving range a bit more than a bigger raise and a shove is what I'd really like to induce here

Yeah thats kinda what I got from the post too. I didnt want to raise too much as I wanted to induce an all in pre and even on the flop. I think the general consensus is that I played the hand well which is what I thought, just wanted to get an idea of what players better than myself thought. Cheers.

Sorry I didn't word it very well.

Pricing him in is perfect, obviously you want the action and with this bet you've got exactly that.

What I mean is that at 3200 you could be called by literally any two cards so the flop is always going to be dangerous no matter what it is. You've hit a perfect flop for your cards but you'll never know where you stand until the chips go in or until he passes.

No escape pre flop or on the flop.

Out of interest what would you have done if the flop came Axx?

Do you still lead out but then pass to his all in or do you check to let him bet first?

Well I havent played many hands with him yet as he hasn't been at my table up until now. I did put him on Ax when he called my bet (and thought he hit a pair on the flop), so if it had came out Axx I think I could have gotten away from it. I think I would still fire out a continuation bet on the flop of 3-4k and I could prob get away from it if he shoves. Do you think this would be the correct play if that was the case?