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Title: Calzaghe v Jones
Post by: Pelham Boy on November 08, 2008, 10:50:22 PM
Anybody got a link?  What time is it likely to start?


Title: Re: Calzaghe v Jones
Post by: Graham C on November 08, 2008, 11:33:04 PM
4am according to Setanta, be a link on www.myp2p.eu at some point


Title: Re: Calzaghe v Jones
Post by: crown on November 09, 2008, 12:14:14 AM
i will be keeping my eye on this link


http://www.justin.tv/footballisareligion



Title: Re: Calzaghe v Jones
Post by: crown on November 09, 2008, 12:18:57 AM
only prob with link is they keep turning over to channel 427 every now and again

ladies wrestling anyone?


Title: Re: Calzaghe v Jones
Post by: TheChipPrince on November 09, 2008, 12:38:58 AM
4am?  Really that late?  I was debating it, dont know if i can hang on that late though, waning here...


Title: Re: Calzaghe v Jones
Post by: scotty2hatty on November 09, 2008, 12:43:42 AM
4am?  Really that late?  I was debating it, dont know if i can hang on that late though, waning here...

same - off for a couple of hours kip


Title: Re: Calzaghe v Jones
Post by: Nem on November 09, 2008, 03:16:33 AM
One mf time plz


Title: Re: Calzaghe v Jones
Post by: dik9 on November 09, 2008, 04:15:32 AM
http://theslammer.webs.com/apps/videos/videos/view/1207780-live-shows-and-pay-per-views

All justin tv links seem to be getting shut down


Title: Re: Calzaghe v Jones
Post by: Longy on November 09, 2008, 04:29:42 AM
Good god am i drunk, pls put a good show Joe.

Calzaghe FTMFW.


Title: Re: Calzaghe v Jones
Post by: rossfourfive on November 09, 2008, 04:33:05 AM
Its sooo fkn late. I'm sooo fkn tired. Come ooooon.


Title: Re: Calzaghe v Jones
Post by: TheChipPrince on November 09, 2008, 04:43:05 AM
Sober here, orange lucozade FTW!


Title: Re: Calzaghe v Jones
Post by: TheChipPrince on November 09, 2008, 04:50:21 AM
http://theslammer.webs.com/apps/videos/videos/view/1207780-live-shows-and-pay-per-views

All justin tv links seem to be getting shut down

Link just gone down!!!


Title: Re: Calzaghe v Jones
Post by: TheChipPrince on November 09, 2008, 04:53:03 AM
Calzaghe gone down!


Title: Re: Calzaghe v Jones
Post by: LeKnave on November 09, 2008, 04:53:17 AM
http://theslammer.webs.com/apps/videos/videos/view/1207780-live-shows-and-pay-per-views

All justin tv links seem to be getting shut down

Link just gone down!!!

sick timing.  any1 got another?


Title: Re: Calzaghe v Jones
Post by: Pelham Boy on November 09, 2008, 04:53:44 AM
http://theslammer.webs.com/apps/videos/videos/view/1207780-live-shows-and-pay-per-views

All justin tv links seem to be getting shut down

Link just gone down!!!

This one works. No commentary though.


Title: Re: Calzaghe v Jones
Post by: Pelham Boy on November 09, 2008, 04:54:16 AM
http://theslammer.webs.com/apps/videos/videos/view/1207780-live-shows-and-pay-per-views

All justin tv links seem to be getting shut down

Link just gone down!!!

This one works. No commentary though.

http://www.justin.tv/bluesgt


Title: Re: Calzaghe v Jones
Post by: UpTheMariners on November 09, 2008, 04:55:31 AM
you lightwieghts the sun aint even come up yet and your tired? call yourself poker players pah!


Title: Re: Calzaghe v Jones
Post by: Pelham Boy on November 09, 2008, 04:56:31 AM
This is better.

http://www.justin.tv/vipreality


Title: Re: Calzaghe v Jones
Post by: Graham C on November 09, 2008, 04:58:48 AM
How does Jones take so many punches and not look phased by it all! 

Nice round


Title: Re: Calzaghe v Jones
Post by: Longy on November 09, 2008, 04:59:25 AM
Wow this is a good fight, what boxing is about imo


Title: Re: Calzaghe v Jones
Post by: Rooky9 on November 09, 2008, 05:04:12 AM
Entertaining stuff! The royal marines adverts are tilting me already though!


Title: Re: Calzaghe v Jones
Post by: Gamblor21 on November 09, 2008, 05:07:11 AM
good link...

http://www.channelsurfing.net/watch-ppv-test.html


Title: Re: Calzaghe v Jones
Post by: UpTheMariners on November 09, 2008, 05:07:20 AM
Entertaining stuff! The royal marines adverts are tilting me already though!

so how many did you count?


Title: Re: Calzaghe v Jones
Post by: Gamblor21 on November 09, 2008, 05:08:49 AM
Entertaining stuff! The royal marines adverts are tilting me already though!

Better than the Mishibushi L200!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Calzaghe v Jones
Post by: UpTheMariners on November 09, 2008, 05:19:25 AM
i think hes got it in the bag now


Title: Re: Calzaghe v Jones
Post by: Longy on November 09, 2008, 05:19:52 AM
Awful cut for Jones, needs a KO imo


Title: Re: Calzaghe v Jones
Post by: TheChipPrince on November 09, 2008, 05:39:12 AM
Bossed him, a true Welsh legend...


Title: Re: Calzaghe v Jones
Post by: Longy on November 09, 2008, 05:40:38 AM
Generous margin of victory for Calzaghe, but he deffo won the fight.

If he does quit, i think he will go down as the best British boxer ever.


Title: Re: Calzaghe v Jones
Post by: gatso on November 09, 2008, 05:47:17 AM
Bossed him, a true Welsh legend...

if he'd lost he would've been scottish

not often you see all 3 judges score a fight the same


Title: Re: Calzaghe v Jones
Post by: ZZZZZZZROPE on November 09, 2008, 05:56:57 AM
great fight man, glad i stayed up to watch it


Title: Re: Calzaghe v Jones
Post by: dik9 on November 09, 2008, 05:57:18 AM
Full replay
http://hotdubzsport.ulmb.com/

Fantastic fight!


Title: Re: Calzaghe v Jones
Post by: Nem on November 09, 2008, 05:57:49 AM
Only Chad Dawson is out there for Joe.

Retire plz


Title: Re: Calzaghe v Jones
Post by: maldini32 on November 09, 2008, 06:11:12 AM
gave my m8 2/1 on jones....thanks for coming sir.


Title: Re: Calzaghe v Jones
Post by: 77dave on November 09, 2008, 09:31:50 AM
Hopkins rematch is the only money fight left for him now.


Title: Re: Calzaghe v Jones
Post by: Karabiner on November 09, 2008, 10:03:04 AM
Hopkins rematch is the only money fight left for him now.

But Hopkins is such a spoiler, surely he wouldn't want that again.


Title: Re: Calzaghe v Jones
Post by: 77dave on November 09, 2008, 10:35:57 AM
Its not a good fight for Joe, but it is the only big money fight out there


Title: Re: Calzaghe v Jones
Post by: Maxriddles on November 09, 2008, 11:25:01 AM
FML, stayed up for this while playing drunken sit n goes on stars to try to stay awake only to fall asleep as they were making there way to the ring.


Title: Re: Calzaghe v Jones
Post by: DaveShoelace on November 09, 2008, 12:33:31 PM
Joe was awesome, possibly his best performance given who he was in the ring with. There is no good fight out there for him now, Hopkins is indeed a spoiler and on a high now, Chad Dawson and Carl Froch would both be no money hiding to nothings. Kelly Pavlik would be the best fight for him now, but still less lucrative and career defining than it would have been prior to his loss to Hopkins.

He should retire, even though he was so amazing last night he probably has two good fights left in him.


Title: Re: Calzaghe v Jones
Post by: kinboshi on November 09, 2008, 12:47:49 PM
Awesome performance.  Looked a bit ominous when he was dropped in the first, but fantastic performance from then on.  Has to be the best British boxer of all time (he's English did you know?) and there really aren't any fights out there for him now that will add to his legacy (but they might add to his bank balance), so he should retire at the top.

;tightend;


Title: Re: Calzaghe v Jones
Post by: DaveShoelace on November 09, 2008, 12:55:51 PM
Awesome performance.  Looked a bit ominous when he was dropped in the first, but fantastic performance from then on.  Has to be the best British boxer of all time (he's English did you know?) and there really aren't any fights out there for him now that will add to his legacy (but they might add to his bank balance), so he should retire at the top.

;tightend;

Deffo the greatest British boxer of all time, Lewis is the only fighter to come close. Eubank was close but lost too many, Naz could have been the greatest boxer of all time but he threw it away and believed his own hype. Calzaghe has entertained and dominated for years and generally been a good figure for the sport and british boxing for the last decade.


Title: Re: Calzaghe v Jones
Post by: mondatoo on November 09, 2008, 01:16:12 PM
Excellent performance from Joe.How did the ref not stop it though he couldnt even see,joe may as well retire as there is nobody for him to fight now and he don't need the money so stop now imo


Title: Re: Calzaghe v Jones
Post by: Maxriddles on November 09, 2008, 01:46:25 PM
Seen the re-run on Setanta.

Excellent performance and should be the perfect close to a great career with a perfect record intact.

Hope he retires, he has nothing to prove.


Title: Re: Calzaghe v Jones
Post by: scotty2hatty on November 09, 2008, 04:02:10 PM
lol @ Richie Woodhall's card - randomly giving rounds to Jones.


Title: Re: Calzaghe v Jones
Post by: DaveShoelace on November 09, 2008, 04:08:58 PM
lol @ Richie Woodhall's card - randomly giving rounds to Jones.

I know, Jones didnt win a round after the 1st, a rare instance where all three judges got it spot on.


Title: Re: Calzaghe v Jones
Post by: kinboshi on November 09, 2008, 07:46:52 PM
lol @ Richie Woodhall's card - randomly giving rounds to Jones.

I know, Jones didnt win a round after the 1st, a rare instance where all three judges got it spot on.

I think it was a case of Woodhall trying to be non-partisan, and he was erring on the side of caution.


Title: Re: Calzaghe v Jones
Post by: bolt pp on November 11, 2008, 02:18:21 PM
Awesome performance.  Looked a bit ominous when he was dropped in the first, but fantastic performance from then on.  Has to be the best British boxer of all time (he's English did you know?) and there really aren't any fights out there for him now that will add to his legacy (but they might add to his bank balance), so he should retire at the top.

;tightend;

Deffo the greatest British boxer of all time, Lewis is the only fighter to come close. Eubank was close but lost too many, Naz could have been the greatest boxer of all time but he threw it away and believed his own hype. Calzaghe has entertained and dominated for years and generally been a good figure for the sport and british boxing for the last decade.

A lot of Eubanks losses came in his later years when he was already gone


Title: Re: Calzaghe v Jones
Post by: DaveShoelace on November 11, 2008, 02:31:38 PM
Awesome performance.  Looked a bit ominous when he was dropped in the first, but fantastic performance from then on.  Has to be the best British boxer of all time (he's English did you know?) and there really aren't any fights out there for him now that will add to his legacy (but they might add to his bank balance), so he should retire at the top.

;tightend;

Deffo the greatest British boxer of all time, Lewis is the only fighter to come close. Eubank was close but lost too many, Naz could have been the greatest boxer of all time but he threw it away and believed his own hype. Calzaghe has entertained and dominated for years and generally been a good figure for the sport and british boxing for the last decade.

A lot of Eubanks losses came in his later years when he was already gone

True, and in fairness to him, some of his best performances came in defeat (he loss to Calzaghe was the best I ever saw him). He did also lose that killer instinct after the Watson tradegy.


Title: Re: Calzaghe v Jones
Post by: kinboshi on November 11, 2008, 02:37:27 PM
Awesome performance.  Looked a bit ominous when he was dropped in the first, but fantastic performance from then on.  Has to be the best British boxer of all time (he's English did you know?) and there really aren't any fights out there for him now that will add to his legacy (but they might add to his bank balance), so he should retire at the top.

;tightend;

Deffo the greatest British boxer of all time, Lewis is the only fighter to come close. Eubank was close but lost too many, Naz could have been the greatest boxer of all time but he threw it away and believed his own hype. Calzaghe has entertained and dominated for years and generally been a good figure for the sport and british boxing for the last decade.

A lot of Eubanks losses came in his later years when he was already gone

Eubank lost to Collins twice, when Eubank was 'spooked' by Collins' hypnosis, but would he have beaten Collins at his peak?  Possibly.  He then lost to Calzaghe, again would he have beat Calzaghe at his peak?  We simply don't know - Calzaghe wasn't at his peak then either.  Then Eubank fought Carl Thompson twice at Cruiserweight - and Thompson was just too big and strong for him although Eubank did put up a great fight.

Eubank is one of Britain's best ever boxers - definitely.  But I wouldn't say he was the best.


Title: Re: Calzaghe v Jones
Post by: bolt pp on November 11, 2008, 04:43:23 PM
Awesome performance.  Looked a bit ominous when he was dropped in the first, but fantastic performance from then on.  Has to be the best British boxer of all time (he's English did you know?) and there really aren't any fights out there for him now that will add to his legacy (but they might add to his bank balance), so he should retire at the top.

;tightend;

Deffo the greatest British boxer of all time, Lewis is the only fighter to come close. Eubank was close but lost too many, Naz could have been the greatest boxer of all time but he threw it away and believed his own hype. Calzaghe has entertained and dominated for years and generally been a good figure for the sport and british boxing for the last decade.

A lot of Eubanks losses came in his later years when he was already gone

Eubank lost to Collins twice, when Eubank was 'spooked' by Collins' hypnosis, but would he have beaten Collins at his peak?  Possibly.  He then lost to Calzaghe, again would he have beat Calzaghe at his peak?  We simply don't know - Calzaghe wasn't at his peak then either.  Then Eubank fought Carl Thompson twice at Cruiserweight - and Thompson was just too big and strong for him although Eubank did put up a great fight.

Eubank is one of Britain's best ever boxers - definitely.  But I wouldn't say he was the best.

"but would he have beaten collins at his peak"  imo YES!!

Eubank different class, who did collins ever fight, look at his record, nobody, collins was not even in the same league as eubank!

flair, style, charisma and technique Eubank pwned!!!!

all the fights you mention are the ones i'm on about in his later years where he was already gone


Title: Re: Calzaghe v Jones
Post by: DaveShoelace on November 11, 2008, 05:47:32 PM
Awesome performance.  Looked a bit ominous when he was dropped in the first, but fantastic performance from then on.  Has to be the best British boxer of all time (he's English did you know?) and there really aren't any fights out there for him now that will add to his legacy (but they might add to his bank balance), so he should retire at the top.

;tightend;

Deffo the greatest British boxer of all time, Lewis is the only fighter to come close. Eubank was close but lost too many, Naz could have been the greatest boxer of all time but he threw it away and believed his own hype. Calzaghe has entertained and dominated for years and generally been a good figure for the sport and british boxing for the last decade.

A lot of Eubanks losses came in his later years when he was already gone

Eubank lost to Collins twice, when Eubank was 'spooked' by Collins' hypnosis, but would he have beaten Collins at his peak?  Possibly.  He then lost to Calzaghe, again would he have beat Calzaghe at his peak?  We simply don't know - Calzaghe wasn't at his peak then either.  Then Eubank fought Carl Thompson twice at Cruiserweight - and Thompson was just too big and strong for him although Eubank did put up a great fight.

Eubank is one of Britain's best ever boxers - definitely.  But I wouldn't say he was the best.

"but would he have beaten collins at his peak"  imo YES!!

Eubank different class, who did collins ever fight, look at his record, nobody, collins was not even in the same league as eubank!

flair, style, charisma and technique Eubank pwned!!!!

all the fights you mention are the ones i'm on about in his later years where he was already gone

Yeah, Eubanks deffo would have beat Collins in his hayday, in fact, he could have beatne Collins in their fight, he had him hurt a few times but showboated whenever he did because he didnt want another Watson on his hands.


Title: Re: Calzaghe v Jones
Post by: The Baron on November 11, 2008, 07:36:32 PM
I think I'd agree about Eubank. Was very, very good when he had that killer instinct.

I think Calzaghe said that Eubank was his toughest fight ever a couple of years back. (I dont know if that would hold true today after Hopkins) And that was definately a past his best Eubank, but as Kin says Calzaghe got way better than that as well so very tough to call.


Title: Re: Calzaghe v Jones
Post by: Scottish Dave on November 11, 2008, 11:48:47 PM
Joe was awesome, possibly his best performance given who he was in the ring with.

Personally i think Jones was far to old for this fight, if it was 4 years ago, jones would have won it.

I know ill get shot down for this, but Calzaghe is highly over rated in my opinion.


Title: Re: Calzaghe v Jones
Post by: Nem on November 12, 2008, 02:55:24 AM
Joe was awesome, possibly his best performance given who he was in the ring with.

Personally i think Jones was far to old for this fight, if it was 4 years ago, jones would have won it.

I know ill get shot down for this, but Calzaghe is highly over rated in my opinion.

Absolutely no way is Calzaghe overrated. He threw more punches than double any other fighter has in a fight against RJJ.

He goes for 12 rounds solid. How many other boxers do that??? Especially at Super middleweight/light heavyweight!

Great fighter. I dont think he would have beaten RJJ in his prime, as RJJ in his prime was one of the greatest ever (top 10) Calzaghe will be an all time great, maybe top 20 ...



Title: Re: Calzaghe v Jones
Post by: kinboshi on November 12, 2008, 09:40:37 AM
Joe was awesome, possibly his best performance given who he was in the ring with.

Personally i think Jones was far to old for this fight, if it was 4 years ago, jones would have won it.

I know ill get shot down for this, but Calzaghe is highly over rated in my opinion.

4 years ago Jones was losing to Tarver and Johnson.  There's nothing to suggest that he'd have faired any better to Calzaghe 4 years ago than he did at the weekend.

Since 1997 Jones has only beaten a hand-full of fighters without the fight going to points.  The ones he did beat with a stoppage were either ageing fighters or fighters that weren't exactly top world class (like Clinton Woods or Otis Grant). 

You have to go back well over ten years to see Jones at his peak. At that time, Calzaghe had only had three fights that lasted more than two rounds!  So they weren't going to fight then.  Calzaghe beat Eubank in 1997, and he's been on the ascendency ever since.  That coincides with Jones' decline, and I truly believe that if Calzaghe had fought Jones at any time after 1997 he would have won.


Title: Re: Calzaghe v Jones
Post by: Amatay on November 12, 2008, 10:23:33 AM
anywhere online where i can watch this pls cause i missed it, cheers


Title: Re: Calzaghe v Jones
Post by: kinboshi on November 12, 2008, 10:26:39 AM
There should be plenty of torrents available for it.  If you can get Setanta, they're showing lots of repeats of the fight this week as well.


Title: Re: Calzaghe v Jones
Post by: The Baron on November 12, 2008, 08:49:16 PM
Joe was awesome, possibly his best performance given who he was in the ring with.

Personally i think Jones was far to old for this fight, if it was 4 years ago, jones would have won it.

I know ill get shot down for this, but Calzaghe is highly over rated in my opinion.

Absolutely no way is Calzaghe overrated. He threw more punches than double any other fighter has in a fight against RJJ.

He goes for 12 rounds solid. How many other boxers do that??? Especially at Super middleweight/light heavyweight!

Great fighter. I dont think he would have beaten RJJ in his prime, as RJJ in his prime was one of the greatest ever (top 10) Calzaghe will be an all time great, maybe top 20 ...


+1


Title: Re: Calzaghe v Jones
Post by: The Baron on November 12, 2008, 08:55:11 PM
Joe was awesome, possibly his best performance given who he was in the ring with.

Personally i think Jones was far to old for this fight, if it was 4 years ago, jones would have won it.

I know ill get shot down for this, but Calzaghe is highly over rated in my opinion.

4 years ago Jones was losing to Tarver and Johnson.  There's nothing to suggest that he'd have faired any better to Calzaghe 4 years ago than he did at the weekend.

Since 1997 Jones has only beaten a hand-full of fighters without the fight going to points.  The ones he did beat with a stoppage were either ageing fighters or fighters that weren't exactly top world class (like Clinton Woods or Otis Grant). 

You have to go back well over ten years to see Jones at his peak. At that time, Calzaghe had only had three fights that lasted more than two rounds!  So they weren't going to fight then.  Calzaghe beat Eubank in 1997, and he's been on the ascendency ever since.  That coincides with Jones' decline, and I truly believe that if Calzaghe had fought Jones at any time after 1997 he would have won.

Agree with all of this - but how's about a Rocky Balboaesque peak vs peak fight?


Title: Re: Calzaghe v Jones
Post by: Jedwick on November 15, 2008, 01:12:58 AM
I have to agree that calzaghe is over rated! He has hand picked his fights against boxers past their prime! just because he has beaten a washed up Roy Jones and Hopkins doesnt mean he is a great! I was impressed when he fought Jeff Lacy but to be fair to Jeff he didnt turn up that night as he was an animal. So what if Calzaghe throws 1 million punches! they are all arm slaps anyway, :P


Title: Re: Calzaghe v Jones
Post by: Longy on November 15, 2008, 09:38:13 AM
I have to agree that calzaghe is over rated! He has hand picked his fights against boxers past their prime! just because he has beaten a washed up Roy Jones and Hopkins doesnt mean he is a great! I was impressed when he fought Jeff Lacy but to be fair to Jeff he didnt turn up that night as he was an animal. So what if Calzaghe throws 1 million punches! they are all arm slaps anyway, :P

Who exactly should he have fought? That weren't hand picked, Jeff Lacy career has been ruined by 12 rounds in the ring with Calzaghe, Mikkel Kessler not in his prime or considered the 2nd best at super middleweight? Bernard Hopkins still can't fight, might want to have a word with Kelly Pavlik about that.

I seriously don't get this trolling of Calzaghe, every boxer he has fought has said he slaps in the prefight and then gone back on there words post fight.


Title: Re: Calzaghe v Jones
Post by: bolt pp on November 15, 2008, 11:57:10 AM
I have to agree that calzaghe is over rated! He has hand picked his fights against boxers past their prime! just because he has beaten a washed up Roy Jones and Hopkins doesnt mean he is a great! I was impressed when he fought Jeff Lacy but to be fair to Jeff he didnt turn up that night as he was an animal. So what if Calzaghe throws 1 million punches! they are all arm slaps anyway, :P

Who exactly should he have fought? That weren't hand picked, Jeff Lacy career has been ruined by 12 rounds in the ring with Calzaghe, Mikkel Kessler not in his prime or considered the 2nd best at super middleweight? Bernard Hopkins still can't fight, might want to have a word with Kelly Pavlik about that.

I seriously don't get this trolling of Calzaghe, every boxer he has fought has said he slaps in the prefight and then gone back on there words post fight.

he's welsh innit ::)


Title: Re: Calzaghe v Jones
Post by: TheChipPrince on November 15, 2008, 12:02:27 PM
he's welsh innit ::)

 ;nemesis;


Title: Re: Calzaghe v Jones
Post by: bolt pp on November 15, 2008, 12:04:00 PM

I would be scared but it appears you're welsh as well ;D