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Title: K-K how would you play this hand?
Post by: lau06132 on November 21, 2008, 04:05:51 PM
Seat 1: Greatbowler ($11.80)
Seat 2: lau06132 ($10)
Seat 3: the Meat King ($2.20)
Seat 4: PokerAssKiller ($3.20)
Seat 5: tigerKTG ($2)
Seat 6: sicksloth ($9.90)
Seat 7: noodlehouse ($2.90)
Seat 8: DuxCrux ($4.65), is sitting out
Seat 9: YpsiPoker ($2.30)
YpsiPoker posts the small blind of $0.05
Greatbowler posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #7
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to lau06132 [Kh Ks]
lau06132 raises to $0.35
the Meat King folds
PokerAssKiller folds
sicksloth has 15 seconds left to act
sicksloth raises to $1.10
noodlehouse folds
YpsiPoker folds
Greatbowler folds
lau06132 has 15 seconds left to act
lau06132 raises to $3
sicksloth has 15 seconds left to act
sicksloth calls $1.90
*** FLOP *** [Ah 7d 2s]
lau06132 bets $2
sicksloth has 15 seconds left to act
sicksloth raises to $5.10


Sicksloth up to this point had been fairly tight having only seen 17% of the flops.

What would you do at this point and would you play this differently and if so, why?


Title: Re: K-K how would you play this hand?
Post by: gatso on November 21, 2008, 08:27:56 PM
at this level I'd say you're behind close to 100% of the time. pass


Title: Re: K-K how would you play this hand?
Post by: KarmaDope on November 21, 2008, 09:57:14 PM
at this level I'd say you're behind close to 100% of the time. pass

+1, no way you're ahead here, pass.


Title: Re: K-K how would you play this hand?
Post by: david3103 on November 22, 2008, 06:00:38 AM
100% he has AK
AA reraises


Title: Re: K-K how would you play this hand?
Post by: byronkincaid on November 22, 2008, 09:13:38 AM
before you C bet say to yourself what better hands am i going to get to fold or what worse hands are going to call. if you can't answer either of those questions perhaps you should be checking.



Title: Re: K-K how would you play this hand?
Post by: Moskvich on November 22, 2008, 10:15:03 AM
before you C bet say to yourself what better hands am i going to get to fold or what worse hands are going to call. if you can't answer either of those questions perhaps you should be checking.



Yep, I'd definitely check this flop. The $2 you spend betting out are much better spent calling once. Unless you know he's just going to play anything, when you bet here he'll just call with an ace (or better) and fold anything else. If you check to him then you let him bluff with all sorts of other hands that you beat. If you check to him twice and he bets twice then he's almost certainly got it and you can fold.

It might be slightly different if you had 99 or TT on this flop - then there is some value in betting, because you want to protect your hand against overcards coming on the turn. But here with KK it's very unlikely that you can be ahead on the flop but fall behind on the turn, so protecting your hand isn't an issue. You just want to win the most you can if you're ahead and lose the least you can if you're behind. You'll never win much here because the A is such a scare card, so checking helps you achieve both those objectives.


Title: Re: K-K how would you play this hand?
Post by: byronkincaid on November 22, 2008, 10:42:14 AM
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It might be slightly different if you had 99 or TT on this flop - then there is some value in betting, because you want to protect your hand against overcards coming on the turn

you bet TT and you might get JJ-KK to fold


Title: Re: K-K how would you play this hand?
Post by: Moskvich on November 22, 2008, 10:51:28 AM
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It might be slightly different if you had 99 or TT on this flop - then there is some value in betting, because you want to protect your hand against overcards coming on the turn

you bet TT and you might get JJ-KK to fold

N'that'n'all.


Title: Re: K-K how would you play this hand?
Post by: lau06132 on November 23, 2008, 10:31:49 AM
Thanks for the advice guys.

One of those moments where I knew exactly what to do and in the heat of the moment didn't feel right but looking back I made the right decision and folded.