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Title: Advice deep in MTTs with HH of situations... Post by: anthonyl on December 02, 2008, 11:28:28 AM Full Tilt Poker Game #9198289566: $6,500 Guarantee (1r+1a) (70195274), Table 11 - 2000/4000 Ante 500 - No Limit Hold'em - 15:36:48 ET - 2008/11/27
Seat 2: talent84 (65,880) Seat 3: Mr_Bond222 (82,333) Seat 5: hocman_05 (214,748) Seat 6: sproyo (309,624) Seat 7: Benvenutti (31,030) Seat 8: fishycheese (102,930) talent84 antes 500 Mr_Bond222 antes 500 hocman_05 antes 500 sproyo antes 500 Benvenutti antes 500 fishycheese antes 500 talent84 posts the small blind of 2,000 Mr_Bond222 posts the big blind of 4,000 The button is in seat #8 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to talent84 [6h Ah] hocman_05 has 15 seconds left to act hocman_05 folds sproyo folds Benvenutti has 15 seconds left to act Benvenutti folds fishycheese folds talent84........... What is your play here? Full Tilt Poker Game #9008248636: $6,500 Guarantee (1r+1a) (68785627), Table 40 - 2500/5000 Ante 600 - No Limit Hold'em - 15:41:23 ET - 2008/11/16 Seat 1: donkyalert (116,116) Seat 3: talent84 (97,068) Seat 5: kvikvi (62,366) Seat 6: thenutzak (52,080), is sitting out Seat 7: iouiou (47,812) Seat 8: thang911 (55,741) Seat 9: superfolde (184,286) donkyalert antes 600 talent84 antes 600 kvikvi antes 600 thenutzak antes 600 iouiou antes 600 thang911 antes 600 superfolde antes 600 donkyalert posts the small blind of 2,500 talent84 posts the big blind of 5,000 The button is in seat #9 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to talent84 [7d Th] kvikvi has 15 seconds left to act kvikvi folds thenutzak folds iouiou folds thang911 folds superfolde folds donkyalert raises to 15,000 talent84....... And here? Reads on the raiser - quite agg at the table, and pokertracker has him on 56% attention to steal. Full Tilt Poker Game #7876599897: $7,500 KO Guarantee (59156788), Table 54 - 1200/2400 Ante 300 - No Limit Hold'em - 12:43:56 ET - 2008/08/31 Seat 1: chicken_inc (19,116) Seat 2: fullbreakfast (32,847) Seat 3: shrek1314 (65,138) Seat 4: chippsahoy (18,769) Seat 6: dane209 (25,849) Seat 8: sickallkris (68,570) Seat 9: talent84 (31,921) chicken_inc antes 300 fullbreakfast antes 300 shrek1314 antes 300 chippsahoy antes 300 dane209 antes 300 sickallkris antes 300 talent84 antes 300 chicken_inc posts the small blind of 1,200 fullbreakfast posts the big blind of 2,400 The button is in seat #9 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to talent84 [2d As] shrek1314 folds chippsahoy folds dane209 has 15 seconds left to act dane209 folds sickallkris folds talent84 ............ And here? I'd like to know why u r doing what u say! Thanks. Title: Re: Advice deep in MTTs with HH of situations... Post by: AndrewT on December 02, 2008, 12:04:23 PM 1 - Shove - only one player to get through and you haz an ace.
2 - The PT stat doesn't mean a whole lot in a tournament - it's more a question of working out if he's going to be raising with ATC here. In these situations I tend to shove and get snapped by a genuinely good hand, as I never believe people's raises in this situation. It's read dependent - if you think he knows what he's doing then shove. Otherwise fold. 3 - Shove. Any standard raise from you commits you to sticking two-thirds of your chips in if SB shoves, and you may as well not give the BB the option to push you out if the SB folds. Title: Re: Advice deep in MTTs with HH of situations... Post by: kinboshi on December 02, 2008, 12:39:20 PM 1 - Shove - only one player to get through and you haz an ace. 2 - The PT stat doesn't mean a whole lot in a tournament - it's more a question of working out if he's going to be raising with ATC here. In these situations I tend to shove and get snapped by a genuinely good hand, as I never believe people's raises in this situation. It's read dependent - if you think he knows what he's doing then shove. Otherwise fold. 3 - Shove. Any standard raise from you commits you to sticking two-thirds of your chips in if SB shoves, and you may as well not give the BB the option to push you out if the SB folds. Doesn't the PT stat refer to the third scenario rather than the second one? Title: Re: Advice deep in MTTs with HH of situations... Post by: Longy on December 02, 2008, 12:44:33 PM 1 - Shove - only one player to get through and you haz an ace. 2 - The PT stat doesn't mean a whole lot in a tournament - it's more a question of working out if he's going to be raising with ATC here. In these situations I tend to shove and get snapped by a genuinely good hand, as I never believe people's raises in this situation. It's read dependent - if you think he knows what he's doing then shove. Otherwise fold. 3 - Shove. Any standard raise from you commits you to sticking two-thirds of your chips in if SB shoves, and you may as well not give the BB the option to push you out if the SB folds. Doesn't the PT stat refer to the third scenario rather than the second one? Err don't think so Kin, there is no raise in hand 3 but there is hand 2. 1 & 3 are shoves with antes in play against pretty much any range in fact 1 is inexploitable. 2 i probs fold here i would need to know he lays down a good % of his range before shoving and that 56% is over a good sample size. Title: Re: Advice deep in MTTs with HH of situations... Post by: kinboshi on December 02, 2008, 12:48:02 PM 1 - Shove - only one player to get through and you haz an ace. 2 - The PT stat doesn't mean a whole lot in a tournament - it's more a question of working out if he's going to be raising with ATC here. In these situations I tend to shove and get snapped by a genuinely good hand, as I never believe people's raises in this situation. It's read dependent - if you think he knows what he's doing then shove. Otherwise fold. 3 - Shove. Any standard raise from you commits you to sticking two-thirds of your chips in if SB shoves, and you may as well not give the BB the option to push you out if the SB folds. Doesn't the PT stat refer to the third scenario rather than the second one? Err don't think so Kin, there is no raise in hand 3 but there is hand 2. 1 & 3 are shoves with antes in play against pretty much any range in fact 1 is inexploitable. 2 i probs fold here i would need to know he lays down a good % of his range before shoving and that 56% is over a good sample size. Yeah - my bad - ignore me. What's your range in scenario one for the shove? ATC, or anything vaguely half-decent? Title: Re: Advice deep in MTTs with HH of situations... Post by: Longy on December 02, 2008, 12:54:10 PM 1 - Shove - only one player to get through and you haz an ace. 2 - The PT stat doesn't mean a whole lot in a tournament - it's more a question of working out if he's going to be raising with ATC here. In these situations I tend to shove and get snapped by a genuinely good hand, as I never believe people's raises in this situation. It's read dependent - if you think he knows what he's doing then shove. Otherwise fold. 3 - Shove. Any standard raise from you commits you to sticking two-thirds of your chips in if SB shoves, and you may as well not give the BB the option to push you out if the SB folds. Doesn't the PT stat refer to the third scenario rather than the second one? Err don't think so Kin, there is no raise in hand 3 but there is hand 2. 1 & 3 are shoves with antes in play against pretty much any range in fact 1 is inexploitable. 2 i probs fold here i would need to know he lays down a good % of his range before shoving and that 56% is over a good sample size. Yeah - my bad - ignore me. What's your range in scenario one for the shove? ATC, or anything vaguely half-decent? Depends on bb but it is not far from atc, probs fold the bottom 20% for image reason Title: Re: Advice deep in MTTs with HH of situations... Post by: anthonyl on December 02, 2008, 01:33:05 PM okay, in the first scenario i just open shoved, and just got ul to run into AK, was just seeing if anyone would play it any different.
so what stack would you just raise with in scenario 1 with the same cards? say if i had 85k, and you raise to 13k, are you folding to his shove? for scenario 2, the raisers stats are over about 121 hands, over levels 1 to the current level. |