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Title: When is theft ok?
Post by: Dingdell on December 02, 2008, 12:27:12 PM
Last night I was burgled, luckily I heard them trying to remove stuff - not very good burglars imo - and I called the police. I didn't alert the burglars but despite a very quick response from the boys in blue the burglars disappeared before the police got there.

What followed was a comedy half hour of detection where the dog handler got pulled over by the dog who got a scent and launched himself down the road at such speed that the handler tripped, the dog got loose and kept on going. As he is a bit of a 'biter' the police then had to concentrate on getting the dog back (he's a newbie) as once he's in pursuit he tends to go for anyone not wearing a yellow jacket. Upshot was I was bundled into the police car for safety (!) as there wasn't a spare jacket to go round and I'm sure most of my neighbours now think I've been arrested!

Anyway - back to the point of the thread. Over a warming cup of coffee after the carry on cops episode these two young fit policemen two officers of the law were telling me about the last job they were on. They had last night been called to the hospital over the theft of some plasters. Two butterfly plasters were taken from the emergency room by a man who had a cut and needed plasters.

He wasn't drunk, causing a breach of the peace, nothing. He had been waiting an age after being seen for these plasters to arrive and in the end saw some on a trolly, took two, put them on his wound and went to leave. He was reported by the staff for theft, held by security and the police were called. They were obliged to attend,take details etc as it had been called in as a 999 but in their opinion it had been a waste of police time.   

Is all theft stealing or are there degrees of theft. By applying degrees do we open the door to more crime? 



Title: Re: When is theft ok?
Post by: tikay on December 02, 2008, 12:30:46 PM

Wowzer. Shocked to hear about the burglary - you OK?


Title: Re: When is theft ok?
Post by: kinboshi on December 02, 2008, 12:35:35 PM
Hope you're OK Tracey - sounds like the nice police officers helped to make a bad situation better.

Never pleasant being burgled, having someone in your house uninvited isn't pleasant and then the next emotion is anger about them taking stuff you've worked bloody hard to get.  Hope you're fully insured and please consider getting an alarm.  It might not help when you're out, but it does give peace of mind when you're in the house at night and can act as a deterrent.

As for the plasters - I'm sure the 'villain' has been paying his tax and national insurance, and it's hardly a crime worth bothering with. It's not as though it was costing the hospital anything (in fact it might have been saving them money as he was sparing the time of a nurse so they could deal with someone else instead).  I guess they have 'procedures' in place and they cover everything from theft of plasters through to theft of dangerous drugs.  No room for common sense.


Title: Re: When is theft ok?
Post by: Dingdell on December 02, 2008, 12:36:45 PM

Wowzer. Shocked to hear about the burglary - you OK?

Over a warming cup of coffee with these two young fit policemen two officers of the law.....

Not understanding the question.... ;D ::)


Title: Re: When is theft ok?
Post by: TightEnd on December 02, 2008, 12:37:27 PM
Most importantly, glad you seem to be ok. If not please talk it through with those you wish to asap. Don't bottle anything up.


Title: Re: When is theft ok?
Post by: Acidmouse on December 02, 2008, 12:38:34 PM
it's fine to steal some stuff you need in extreme circumstances, that being one of them.


Title: Re: When is theft ok?
Post by: Dingdell on December 02, 2008, 12:39:07 PM
Most importantly, glad you seem to be ok. If not please talk it through with those you wish to asap. Don't bottle anything up.

TY - all good here.

So was it waste of time sending two officers to deal with the theft of two butterfly plasters?


Title: Re: When is theft ok?
Post by: TightEnd on December 02, 2008, 12:41:08 PM


So was it waste of time sending two officers to deal with the theft of two butterfly plasters?


Yes, but presumably the hospital has to report and the police have to deal with the report

bureaucracy and form filling mentality in the public sector innit?


Title: Re: When is theft ok?
Post by: byronkincaid on December 02, 2008, 12:43:32 PM
shd go to tescos to get plasters


Title: Re: When is theft ok?
Post by: Christo! on December 02, 2008, 12:45:06 PM
The theft of the plasters will not go anywhere.

I myself have had my flat burgled when I was in it but I managed to stop the two guys getting away with my flatmates PS3 and ipod and its not pleasent having strangers come into home with the intention of nicking your stuff


Title: Re: When is theft ok?
Post by: lazaroonie on December 02, 2008, 12:56:20 PM


So was it waste of time sending two officers to deal with the theft of two butterfly plasters?


Yes, but presumably the hospital has to report and the police have to deal with the report

bureaucracy and form filling mentality in the public sector innit?

if they had been charged would it have been a stitch up ?



Title: Re: When is theft ok?
Post by: Robert HM on December 02, 2008, 01:07:38 PM
Sad to hear about the burglary, glad to hear you were looked after.


Title: Re: When is theft ok?
Post by: technolog on December 02, 2008, 01:09:28 PM
No luck with the firemen so try the police  ;)








Glad you're unscathed.


Title: Re: When is theft ok?
Post by: AndrewT on December 02, 2008, 01:14:58 PM
No luck with the firemen so try the police  ;)

Next week's post from Tracey.

'I was on a dinghy out in the sea but I got lost so I called 999 and these two cute coastguards came and rescued me...'

Must have been scary being in the house on your own waiting for the coppers to turn up - glad to hear you're OK.


Title: Re: When is theft ok?
Post by: Dingdell on December 02, 2008, 01:26:34 PM
No luck with the firemen so try the police  ;)

Next week's post from Tracey.

'I was on a dinghy out in the sea but I got lost so I called 999 and these two cute coastguards came and rescued me...'

Must have been scary being in the house on your own waiting for the coppers to turn up - glad to hear you're OK.

I was thinking more along the lines of "I was waiting for the handyman to turn up to repair the damage from the buglars....." lol.


Title: Re: When is theft ok?
Post by: tikay on December 02, 2008, 01:29:50 PM

Wowzer. Shocked to hear about the burglary - you OK?

Over a warming cup of coffee with these two young fit policemen two officers of the law.....

Not understanding the question.... ;D ::)

Were handcuffs involved?


Title: Re: When is theft ok?
Post by: Dingdell on December 02, 2008, 01:32:43 PM
LOl. Just lol.

Admittedly I was clutching my police issue truncheon when the police arrived which startled them a bit I think!


Title: Re: When is theft ok?
Post by: Dewi_cool on December 02, 2008, 01:32:58 PM
I think it's ok on the button, dont call a reraise though, could get you in to trouble :)up

hope they catch the ********


Title: Re: When is theft ok?
Post by: tikay on December 02, 2008, 01:52:46 PM
LOl. Just lol.

Admittedly I was clutching my police issue truncheon when the police arrived which startled them a bit I think!

Must resist......


Title: Re: When is theft ok?
Post by: Rookie (Rodney) on December 02, 2008, 02:04:04 PM
LOl. Just lol.

Admittedly I was clutching my police issue truncheon when the police arrived which startled them a bit I think!

Must resist......

[  ] You resisted


Title: Re: When is theft ok?
Post by: AndrewT on December 02, 2008, 02:07:54 PM

Wowzer. Shocked to hear about the burglary - you OK?

Over a warming cup of coffee with these two young fit policemen two officers of the law.....

Not understanding the question.... ;D ::)

Were handcuffs involved?

Any particulars taken down?


Title: Re: When is theft ok?
Post by: tikay on December 02, 2008, 02:19:25 PM
LOl. Just lol.

Admittedly I was clutching my police issue truncheon when the police arrived which startled them a bit I think!

Must resist......

[  ] You resisted

You shoulda seen my original (hastily Deleted) Post.


Title: Re: When is theft ok?
Post by: Claw75 on December 02, 2008, 02:40:12 PM
glad to hear your ok Trace.

the plasters thing sounds bonkers.  If they had told the guy they were going to get him some plasters anyway I can't see that it was really theft.


Title: Re: When is theft ok?
Post by: thetank on December 02, 2008, 02:46:12 PM
The guy nicking plasters sounds like a bit of a twonk imo.

If his afflcition can be cured by a sticky plaster then chances are he wasn't a priority to the doctors and nurses in A+E and shouldn't be surprised if he has to wait a while.
If his time is so so valuable that he can't wait, maybe he should consider going to a fookin shop and buying some plasters next time. The hospital staff's time is probably pretty valuable too.

The trolleys and cupboards and that with all the plasters and pisch are full of sterile equipment and that innit? They don't need JoePublic scooting about inside for whatever they fancy.

No sympathy for the police either.
I'd trust a doctor or a nurse over the police any day of the week when it comes to deciding what is an effective use of time. Hope the police took the incident seriously and gave the twonk a good talking to/scared the shit out of him before they got on with the losing footraces to kids in trainers or whatever the fock they'd rather be doing.


Title: Re: When is theft ok?
Post by: cia260895 on December 02, 2008, 04:08:46 PM
but how long does it actually take to clean the wound put the plasters on,3 mins tops? and when yr in A&E the amount of time wasted by people not actually doing anything is scandalous,self service ftw

good to hear yr ok trace,

 they didnt take any of your work tools did they?

fireman policeman only the paramedics for the set..


Title: Re: When is theft ok?
Post by: Acidmouse on December 02, 2008, 04:15:15 PM
but how long does it actually take to clean the wound put the plasters on,3 mins tops? and when yr in A&E the amount of time wasted by people not actually doing anything is scandalous,self service ftw

They keep you waiting right up to the deadline that the NHS sets hosptials to be seen in A&E. If he wanted some plasters he most probs got pissed off at having to sit wait the standard 4 hours while blood came out of a wound.


Title: Re: When is theft ok?
Post by: madasahatstand on December 02, 2008, 06:41:44 PM
Glad you are okay Trace and the officers of the law looked after you.

In A+E there is a proactive 'zero tolerance' policy but this is usually around violence. I suspect there was more to the story of stealing plasters like the guy was pissed and took plasters from a 'clean area' and contaminated it or was just a general nuisance and a danger to other patients?

If he just took a couple of plasters then it sounds like an over-reaction to call the police. The threshold of whats acceptable is different between departments and people working there so who knows?


Title: Re: When is theft ok?
Post by: bolt pp on December 02, 2008, 09:26:02 PM
the guy that took the plasters is a thieving bastard and i hope he goes to prison


Title: Re: When is theft ok?
Post by: Grier78 on December 02, 2008, 09:34:52 PM
the guy that took the plasters is a thieving bastard and i hope he goes to prison

Yeah, he broke the number one rule, don't get caught.


Title: Re: When is theft ok?
Post by: NoflopsHomer on December 02, 2008, 09:39:23 PM
When it's from the government.

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Title: Re: When is theft ok?
Post by: tikay on December 02, 2008, 10:41:54 PM
When it's from the government.

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Yup, steal our own money - now that's bright.