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Title: Nasty AJ situation Post by: Cf on December 08, 2008, 12:17:52 PM ALEA £30 rebuy. 10 players left as 2 tables of 5.
Blinds: 400/800 Villian: 15,500 Hero: 19,000 Villian raises UTG to 2,100 Fold Hero OTB raises to 5,500 with Aspades Js Blinds fold Villian goes all in Hero ??? There's a slight bit of history here. Villian has only recently joined the table. On his first hand he raised, and folded to my 3-bet. We're about 5 or 6 hands later now. He's also raised one or two other pots prior to this that I wasn't involved in. Couple of questions. Am I right to 3-bet here given the stack sizes? The raise is intentionally slightly on the small size to try and look less bluffy given the history, but i'm not sure if that's how this comes across? Am I now committed to call based on pot odds, or given how much I have left and what the blinds are should I fold and let this one go? Title: Re: Nasty AJ situation Post by: Royal Flush on December 08, 2008, 12:34:21 PM ALEA £30 rebuy. 10 players left as 2 tables of 5. Blinds: 400/800 Villian: 15,500 Hero: 19,000 Villian raises UTG to 2,100 Fold Hero OTB raises to 5,500 with Aspades Js Blinds fold Villian goes all in Hero ??? There's a slight bit of history here. Villian has only recently joined the table. On his first hand he raised, and folded to my 3-bet. We're about 5 or 6 hands later now. He's also raised one or two other pots prior to this that I wasn't involved in. Couple of questions. Am I right to 3-bet here given the stack sizes? The raise is intentionally slightly on the small size to try and look less bluffy given the history, but i'm not sure if that's how this comes across? Am I now committed to call based on pot odds, or given how much I have left and what the blinds are should I fold and let this one go? Decide what to do here before you 3 bet, how can you possibly 3 bet when so shallow with a hand then go "Oh noes he's a 4 betting me, whats i gonna do?" Also 3 betting small does not look LESS bluffy it looks MORE bluffy. Plz always 3 bet snap a 4 bet given this history. Title: Re: Nasty AJ situation Post by: Cf on December 08, 2008, 12:42:00 PM Decide what to do here before you 3 bet This is definitely the main mistake I made. I made the raise without giving any thought to what situation I was putting myself in if he shoves. I won't be making this mistake again in a hurry :) Title: Re: Nasty AJ situation Post by: gribbo on December 08, 2008, 07:50:04 PM Would definetley call if there is history, guy could be shoving any any two cards, ace rag suited etc
Title: Re: Nasty AJ situation Post by: Royal Flush on December 08, 2008, 08:25:01 PM Would definetley call if there is history, guy could be shoving any any two cards, ace rag suited etc OP didn't say if oppo was a moron or not, he has to be shoving with some equity here can't be any 2, unless like i say he is really really bad Title: Re: Nasty AJ situation Post by: Cf on December 09, 2008, 03:29:07 AM Villian was Nick Carter. He had Jh Jd. Was just thinking I probably shouldn't have put myself in this position in the first place.
Title: Re: Nasty AJ situation Post by: ChipRich on December 09, 2008, 04:32:44 AM As said, you need to decide before you 3 bet.
Nicks a decent player and wouldn't be 4 bet shoving light here as hes pretty sure your getting it in vs him. I think you have to 3 bet here given the info YOU have on him and the history + the fact your playing 5 handed and his opening range is fairly wide. btw, how many runners does/did the £30r get, and how much £ up top? Title: Re: Nasty AJ situation Post by: Cf on December 09, 2008, 12:24:24 PM Only 12 runners to start, though it got up to 17. Don't think many people knew it was a 6:30 start. Pot was about £1200 I think.
Title: Re: Nasty AJ situation Post by: AlexMartin on December 10, 2008, 08:47:12 AM flat and outplay
hate 3b call w/o history and 3b fold is spew. comparing his open to his 4b range= AJ is foooked. Title: Re: Nasty AJ situation Post by: cooker3 on December 19, 2008, 02:47:28 PM Yeah don't 3bet without a plan. In fact just shove if your to 3bet it and as played you can never fold.
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