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Title: $5 - 27man SNG on stars Post by: blodge99 on December 12, 2008, 07:18:54 PM I was playing a $5 and 50c 27man tourney on stars the other day. Got down to the last 3 and was chip leader. Im on the button and get dealt AJo. I decide to limp in order to re-raise.
The hand plays out like this. I'd appreciate some feedback please. *********** # 120 ************** PokerStars Game #22654384655: Tournament #125101309, $5.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level X (400/800) - 2008/12/06 0:47:14 CET [2008/12/05 18:47:14 ET] Table '125101309 3' 9-max Seat #4 is the button Seat 1: jakken1 (13512 in chips) Seat 4: blodge99 (19828 in chips) Seat 7: rossi91 (7160 in chips) jakken1: posts the ante 50 blodge99: posts the ante 50 rossi91: posts the ante 50 rossi91: posts small blind 400 jakken1: posts big blind 800 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to blodge99 [As Jh] blodge99: calls 800 rossi91: calls 400 jakken1: checks *** FLOP *** [2d Th Jc] rossi91: checks jakken1: bets 1600 blodge99: raises 3200 to 4800 rossi91: folds jakken1: calls 3200 *** TURN *** [2d Th Jc] [4d] jakken1: checks blodge99: bets 4800 jakken1: calls 4800 *** RIVER *** [2d Th Jc 4d] [3h] jakken1: bets 2400 blodge99: calls 2400 *** SHOW DOWN *** jakken1: shows [3c Td] (two pair, Tens and Threes) blodge99: mucks hand jakken1 collected 26550 from pot *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 26550 | Rake 0 Board [2d Th Jc 4d 3h] Seat 1: jakken1 (big blind) showed [3c Td] and won (26550) with two pair, Tens and Threes Seat 4: blodge99 (button) mucked [As Jh] Seat 7: rossi91 (small blind) folded on the Flop Much appreciated Title: Re: $5 - 27man SNG on stars Post by: feedthegoat on December 12, 2008, 07:42:40 PM 3 handed i'm raising preflop with aj it's not not strong enough to trap.
Flop play standard but on the turn i'm shipping all in. Title: Re: $5 - 27man SNG on stars Post by: Graham C on December 12, 2008, 07:53:04 PM Deffo agree, limping here is really bad imo. Raise it up, AJ isn't a trapping hand. Also for a reraise, I think the flop raise is too small, just stick him all in now.
Title: Re: $5 - 27man SNG on stars Post by: gatso on December 12, 2008, 07:53:34 PM don't post results of the hand, skews peoples' analysis
Im on the button and get dealt AJo. I decide to limp in order to re-raise. don't do this. AJ is massive 3 handed but raising won't give away the strength of your hand as you should be raising a very wide range here especially as cl and there are only 2 players behind you so the chance of a raise isn't so high, especially at the lower levels where people are happy to complete or check their option. let's raise and build a pot Title: Re: $5 - 27man SNG on stars Post by: x_posed on December 12, 2008, 07:56:15 PM Yeah I agree. I think I prob raise approx the pot preflop and call if he shoves. On the flop I'd prob bet about half the pot to induce a bluff and if he just calls shove the turn.
Title: Re: $5 - 27man SNG on stars Post by: gatso on December 12, 2008, 07:57:07 PM 3 handed i'm raising preflop with aj it's not not strong enough to trap. Flop play standard but on the turn i'm shipping all in. Deffo agree, limping here is really bad imo. Raise it up, AJ isn't a trapping hand. Also for a reraise, I think the flop raise is too small, just stick him all in now. are you 2 serious? it's the decision to trap that's wrong here, not the choice of hand to do it with. we're 3 handed, AJ is huuuuuge Title: Re: $5 - 27man SNG on stars Post by: x_posed on December 12, 2008, 07:59:54 PM 3 handed i'm raising preflop with aj it's not not strong enough to trap. Flop play standard but on the turn i'm shipping all in. Deffo agree, limping here is really bad imo. Raise it up, AJ isn't a trapping hand. Also for a reraise, I think the flop raise is too small, just stick him all in now. are you 2 serious? it's the decision to trap that's wrong here, not the choice of hand to do it with. we're 3 handed, AJ is huuuuuge Yeah I see where ur coming from here gatso. AJ is a huge hand in this situation but limping is wrong as a pot needs to be built a bit in order to induce the oponent to get his chips in with an inferior hand. Title: Re: $5 - 27man SNG on stars Post by: blodge99 on December 12, 2008, 08:02:20 PM thanks for the advice guys.
i knew after that my main problem was not raising it but i think his call of my re-raise was poor. When he called that i thought that he might have had TJ. Title: Re: $5 - 27man SNG on stars Post by: Graham C on December 12, 2008, 08:14:34 PM Yeah I was serious :D But am thinking on how to write my argument down so it reads right!
We're only 3 handed, people shove with all sorts here and he's likely to call with any part of the flop so I don't really like to let peope in cheaply to be honest. There's obvioulsy a deep technical explanation on the rights and wrongs of this but I can't concentrate on it at the moment, but personally, If I'm raising on the flop, I'd make it a bit bigger. Title: Re: $5 - 27man SNG on stars Post by: gatso on December 12, 2008, 08:22:02 PM graham, I agree with you on how you should play it as I said above, we have to raise pf. the part of your post I was disagreeing with was
AJ isn't a trapping hand as it makes it sound like you don't consider this to be a big hand 3 handed this may not be what you meant though Title: Re: $5 - 27man SNG on stars Post by: Graham C on December 12, 2008, 08:32:21 PM Nah, that's not what I meant, I think we agree actually, ignore me, I'm sort of preoccupied losing my own sng's atm!
Title: Re: $5 - 27man SNG on stars Post by: feedthegoat on December 12, 2008, 10:07:14 PM Don't think I made my position clear either, I have no problem getting all the chips in preflop with AJ I just don't want to get to the flop 3 handed which will happen quite often with a limp here.
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