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I'm not an experienced Omaha-smith so please be gentle. 

9 handed game, two players see a flop.  I have position on my opponent who has about £500 easily covering my £220

The flop is  Jh  5d  9h

I have   8s 8c  9c 9d

Pot is £80 - opponent bets the pot. 

What do I do?  Also, if he has something like a  Th Qh what are the percentages.  I'm assuming I'm playing for all my stack here so if I'm ahead but he has a flush and straight draw am I still ahead percentages wise? 

This was my card club Christmas party night, I have had one or two drinky poos and the other guy is sober, but playing tight and has been hitting flops.  I've been quiet cause I'm trying not to get myself in trouble and I'm only little.

Advice please.

Get it all in in this spot and you are favourite, if he had a wrap and a fl draw then your hand would be a dog. If in this hand you were both deep and that was the board and he bets pot but you are'nt to know his holdings, some top plo players would jus call the flop bet even with top set, wait for a blank turn then get it in on the turn.

ull hit a set like what 1 outa 3 or something when u have a  double paired hand now youve hit, more often than not ur flipping in this spot-get em in

HA DU KEN!!!!!

SHOVE UR CHIPS IN

i dont think ur miles ahead but possibly on the flop but anything can change in omahahahhahaha


i dont think i can fold here.

 whats the action pre and how many players are there in the pot?

middle set no redraw i proberly fold here but i more than likely dont get in  a pot that big with 8899 ss pre anyway
with deeper stacks you can call the flop bet and reasses on turn

One in four.

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How have you managed to get involved in an £80 pf pot with 8899 when you're playing 1 1 PLO with £200. In future don't let this happen.

Unless you get the perfect flop which this pretty much is you're on a loser long term.

As played shove it all in as quickly as possible. To get the pot this big I can only put your oppo on aces or kings so you are ahead.

calling to reasses the turn is wrong here at any time (apart from very occasionaly for deception and balance), very strong odds to hit a card you won't call another pot bet against and any decent opponent will pop another bet on the turn regardless of what it is.

In this case your obviously getting them in, only 1 hand you absolutely don't wan't to see and you have runner runner outs against that also.

How have you managed to build an £80 pot, with £1 £1 blinds, even with a £2 straddle, and over calls, someone would have had to 4 or 5 this pre.

Get it in in this spot as you're pretty shallow, can't see how you can call £80 then fold with only £140 behind on the turn.

My question is though, were you ever thinking of folding middle set when putting in over 30 bets preflop with 8899, or were you wanting to flop the straight flush?

£80 pots are about average for that game.  It was also our Christmas party night also, I wasn't entirely focused...so I get the fact that I shouldn't have put myself in that position in the first place.  Just wondered if there's any justification for folding.  It doesn't really matter now.

Please can you tell us how the action went in the lead up to the £80 being in the pot. This makes it a bit easier to analyse.

In some situations its right to pass here but in most we get it in. Just impossible to tell without knowing what happened pre.

what happened in the end?

As far as I can remember I think there was a £2 straddle, a £4 straddle and an £8...next guy pots for £24, folded to me on the button I call, folded to £8 straddler who calls for £16 more.  I think  something like that. 

I think the £8 straddler just threw his cards in the muck straight away when he saw the flop, the next guy bet the pot and it was on me for £80. 

Calling for 10% of your stack here is not ideal. Should've been a pass.

Now you've got lucky you need to be getting the rest of your cash in really hard and really fast.

Preferably aim it towards his eye.

His betting screams of an AA / KK type hand and neither of you are deep enough for him to do anything other than pot it.

If you're up against  Qh Th and nothing else you're still a favourite.

If he's got a 7 or a king as well to make a bit of a wrap you could be in trouble.

However, given the action you can't put him on this sort of hand so it's a shove.

Thank you.  I shall definitely aim straight for his eye next time. 


THE END

Not quite the end.

You might not be results orientated but we are.

What happened??

I folded.  He showed me a single Jack. 

meh.