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Title: Pretty Standard? Post by: NoflopsHomer on December 19, 2008, 06:36:36 PM I don't play much cash at all, but I'm getting bored of tournaments atm.
Is this all pretty standard? Button heateddebate ($26.15) SB DARLINGofFORTUNE ($123.40) BB glengary49 ($15.50) UTG rabbitweed ($103.50) UTG+1 jokarlss ($85.10) CO IamRodHull ($235.10) Preflop: IamRodHull is in the CO with J(http://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/club.gif) J(http://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/spade.gif) 1 fold, jokarlss raises to 3.50, IamRodHull raises to 11, 3 folds, jokarlss calls 7.50. Flop (23.50) 2(http://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/club.gif) 6(http://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/club.gif) 3(http://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/club.gif) jokarlss checks, IamRodHull bets 20, jokarlss raises to 74.10, IamRodHull calls 54.10. Turn (171.70) 6(http://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/spade.gif) River (171.70) 4(http://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/diamond.gif) jokarlss shows K(http://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/club.gif) K(http://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/spade.gif) IamRodHull shows J(http://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/club.gif) J(http://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/spade.gif) jokarlss wins 171.70 with Two pair, Kings and Sixs with a Four for a kicker Title: Re: Pretty Standard? Post by: MC on December 20, 2008, 03:47:14 PM Yup, definitely standard, nothing you can do here (especially when you're getting 3 to 1)
Title: Re: Pretty Standard? Post by: Ironside on December 21, 2008, 01:08:21 AM standard imho
Title: Re: Pretty Standard? Post by: snoopy1239 on December 21, 2008, 01:53:13 AM Yep, ul.
Title: Re: Pretty Standard? Post by: JungleCat03 on December 21, 2008, 04:26:29 AM I probz fold vs Kings in this spot. You've only got two outs and even then he can re-draw. Bit fishy to chase a jack like u did.
Sometimes I would call though. I ran it through twodimes to get a more scientific result. JJ v KK (standard) 2% JJ v KK (feeling it) 77% Be a leaf in the wind. Title: Re: Pretty Standard? Post by: thetank on December 21, 2008, 04:28:04 AM lolz quite hard
Title: Re: Pretty Standard? Post by: NoflopsHomer on December 21, 2008, 02:15:01 PM I probz fold vs Kings in this spot. You've only got two outs and even then he can re-draw. Bit fishy to chase a jack like u did. Sometimes I would call though. I ran it through twodimes to get a more scientific result. JJ v KK (standard) 2% JJ v KK (feeling it) 77% Be a leaf in the wind. :D Damn you wee man! Title: Re: Pretty Standard? Post by: david3103 on December 22, 2008, 01:19:04 PM I know I'm just a micro-stakes fish but when my 3.5BB raise gets reraised by a bigger stack I'm not expecting to see much less than KK in opp's hand.
When my bet on the flop is met by a massive raise my suspicions would be more than roused. I'm calling $54.10 to win $117.60, a touch over 2:1 with what? A slim chance of hitting the J and maybe 9 outs for the flush? As I said on the learning board, I am aware that the game is played differently at higher stakes, but even so... Title: Re: Pretty Standard? Post by: thetank on December 27, 2008, 11:05:58 PM 3-betting is more common at higher limits. People do not need KK+
Raise on flop is not massive. Is less than a pot sized raise, really the only raise opponent can make. I'm calling $54.10 to win $117.60, a touch over 2:1 with what? A slim chance of hitting the J and maybe 9 outs for the flush? There's a good chance opponent could have a hand like AKo with one club and JJ is ahead. He doesn't know opponent has a bigger pair. |