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Title: closing out the betting
Post by: Ironside on May 21, 2005, 09:48:44 PM
this is on level 1 on the stars $200 PLO
 was i right to rerereraise to close out the callers

PokerStars Game #1740337194: Tournament #7695949, Omaha Pot Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2005/05/21 - 16:40:38 (ET)
Table '7695949 1' Seat #3 is the button
Seat 2: danilee (4640 in chips)
Seat 3: Donrodolfo (2250 in chips)
Seat 4: GARYDO (1920 in chips)
Seat 5: Ironside (2700 in chips)
Seat 6: FACES1 (2840 in chips)
Seat 7: Crazyhug (620 in chips)
Seat 8: ijsj2003 (2450 in chips)
Seat 9: Gold Pharaoh (2580 in chips)
GARYDO: posts small blind 10
Ironside: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Ironside [9c 8c Ah Ad]
FACES1: folds
Crazyhug: raises 40 to 60
ijsj2003: folds
Gold Pharaoh: folds
danilee: calls 60
Donrodolfo: calls 60
GARYDO: folds
Ironside: raises 250 to 310
Crazyhug: raises 310 to 620 and is all-in
danilee: folds
Donrodolfo: calls 560
Ironside: raises 1930 to 2550
Donrodolfo: folds
*** FLOP *** [5s 2d 6h]
*** TURN *** [5s 2d 6h] [8d]
*** RIVER *** [5s 2d 6h 8d] [9d]
Ironside said, "nh"
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Ironside: shows [9c 8c Ah Ad] (two pair, Nines and Eights)
Crazyhug: shows [Tc Qd 7s 6d] (a flush, Queen high)
Crazyhug collected 1930 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1930 | Rake 0
Board [5s 2d 6h 8d 9d]
Seat 2: danilee folded before Flop
Seat 3: Donrodolfo (button) folded before Flop
Seat 4: GARYDO (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: Ironside (big blind) showed [9c 8c Ah Ad] and lost with two pair, Nines and Eights
Seat 6: FACES1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Crazyhug showed [Tc Qd 7s 6d] and won (1930) with a flush, Queen high
Seat 8: ijsj2003 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Gold Pharaoh folded before Flop (didn't bet)


Title: Re: closing out the betting
Post by: ifm on May 22, 2005, 12:23:04 AM
2 things i'll say,
firstly your hand ain't that good, most folks overplay aces in omaha and it can be VERY costly.
Secondly raising in omaha should really be to add value to a pot and not to push people out.
At least one of your aces needs to be suited for you to be raising, i'd see the flop and go from there (small raise only)
You actually, by forcing folks out, probably lost yourself a decent side pot but who knows?
Believe me i ain't no world champ omaha player but i am in profit :o
You should always remember you have 6 hands there and ace 8 off suit is not a very good hand in this game.
Ian


Title: Re: closing out the betting
Post by: Ironside on May 22, 2005, 12:48:21 AM
if you read the hand again you will see the orginal raise was the very short stack

so the rerereraise was to drive out one player who had called twice

i was trying to drive him out and get heads up with shorty

if he had called i would have been HU for the side pot

even in omaha AA is a big hand HU


Title: Re: closing out the betting
Post by: ifm on May 22, 2005, 01:06:47 AM
If you think about what i said you'll see my point about a side pot.


Title: Re: closing out the betting
Post by: Ironside on May 22, 2005, 01:14:32 AM
if i let the person in there wont be a side pot as unless i flop an ace i cant really bet out