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I feel I'm not on in good form at the moment and wanted to get a view on this to see if it's me or just a bad time I'm going through. If you've seen the hand in another thread, please ignore try and forget the outcome.

Full  (http://blondepoker.com/index.php?q=node/12206)Tilt (http://blondepoker.com/index.php?q=node/12206) Poker Game #9698693870: Early Double - A (73768263), Table 17 - 30/60 - No Limit Hold'em - 16:51:55 ET - 2008/12/26
Seat 1: FourAcesHigh (1,740)
Seat 2: BaDonkaPunk (3,895)
Seat 3: MR_ATM_MR (3,045)
Seat 4: OCpokerplyr (13,345)
Seat 5: Whistlewing (6,435)
Seat 6: Bokeh (3,010)
Seat 7: tjb187 (3,785)
Seat 8: corn013 (4,015)
Seat 9: superwijf50 (4,065)
Bokeh posts the small blind of 30
tjb187 posts the big blind of 60
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Bokeh [Kh Qh]
corn013 folds
superwijf50 folds
FourAcesHigh folds
BaDonkaPunk folds
MR_ATM_MR folds
OCpokerplyr folds
Whistlewing has 15 seconds left to act
Whistlewing calls 60
Bokeh calls 30
tjb187 checks
*** FLOP *** [7d Th Kc]
Bokeh bets 120
tjb187 folds
Whistlewing calls 120
*** TURN *** [7d Th Kc] [9h]
Bokeh bets 300
Whistlewing raises to 600
Bokeh ??

Seems to be standard to what I'm facing at the moment

I have a strange feeling he has t9  ::) but you have top pair and every card in the deck as an out so get it in! you probs hit a str8 flush, you usually do!

ldo obv, but generally, would normal mortals fold/call/shove here?  Not everyone is going to hit the straight flush.

Call.

Think i would just call and see the river.

raise pre

Fair enough, thanks

peeling>>>>raising pre

lolz, are you just going to agree with everyone?

I don't mind peeling here but prefer the raise, button boy probs comes along for the ride anyway but I'd like to drop the bb and go hu

this early i'd just complete the sb. would c/c the flop. would lead the turn if flop got checked thru if not c/c again.  would lead the river if turn got checked thru if not c/c again unless i complete flush in which case i would lead out.
 
[ x ] im a nit

as played id call the 300 - kinda horrible spot cos i think you have to fold river if you dont improve.

that was my plan, although I was going to disagree with the river for information.

Call the turn, see the river...on a blank river probably check/call...

Umm, at this point I think were behind, if we dont improve i'm folding most of the time...

think you can find a lot better spots to get it in, in comps like this , so just call and hope to hit the river hard then extract value

I feel I'm not in good form at the moment and wanted to get a view on this to see if it's me or just a bad time I'm going through

If this is a typical hand you can see why you're going through a bad patch at the moment. When we are low in confidence we tend to take the fudge option and limp here. If you do this you turn your hand into suited connectors and so should typically be looking to play a small pot unless you hit big. The problem is when you hit tp it will be hard not to think you've hit big, and you will play the hand like you did actually raise pre-flop. You find yourself in a situation where you thought K-Qs was only good enough to call 30 chips pre....but post flop one pair now seems good enough to commit 3k chips with. The other disadvantage of limping is having to play oop throughout the hand. Why invite things to be more difficult for yourself? Why give your oppo an advantage?

If I raised pre I would be happy to get it in on the turn. But in a limped pot I think checking the turn is better. It keeps the pot smaller....which is what you wanted to do.

This most of the time, but sometimes I think you can raise, especially in a $5 where people will limp a lot of shit on the button.

lol so he is both too passive and too aggressive???

Posted by: Royal Flush

Yep, absolutely right. A common example of this is when you limp with Aces UTG expecting a raise, the raise doesn't come, but you play the hand as forcefully as you would have in a raised HU pot anyway....even though you're actually in a multi-way limped pot. You are being both too passive and then too aggressive with your hand. So well done to James for that spot.

Just flat the turn and hope you improve on the river!