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Title: 3b pot w nfd, turn bricks....double barrel> cr?
Post by: AlexMartin on December 29, 2008, 06:52:28 AM
played with villain for a bit, only 1 notable pot before where i 3b junk in bb v button open,  he called and shoved ott of my cbet on an A73rbow board. Iv been splashing a bit and image is more artful dodger than scarlet pimpernell.

I am not sure what is better on the turn v a 20/15/32% agg factor type. Normally a standard double barrel spot v non-habitual floaters obv.



***** Hand History for Game 2244950 *****
$500.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, December 29, 06:16:07 ET 2008
Table Nitrogen 120 (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Seat 2: JammyJenny ( $518.13 USD )
Seat 3: The JayBird ( $0.00 USD )
Seat 4: codfisher ( $283.49 USD )
Seat 5: StinkBug ( $354.70 USD )
Seat 6: 415379 ( $484.38 USD )
415379 posts small blind [$2.50 USD].
JammyJenny posts big blind [$5.00 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to JammyJenny [  9c Ac ]
codfisher folds
StinkBug raises [$13.12 USD]
415379 folds
JammyJenny raises [$34.00 USD]
StinkBug calls [$25.88 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8d, Kc, 3c ]
JammyJenny bets [$60.37 USD]
StinkBug calls [$60.37 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 9h ]
JammyJenny ........


Title: Re: 3b pot w nfd, turn bricks....double barrel> cr?
Post by: DaveShoelace on December 29, 2008, 09:54:18 AM
Against a decent reg I really like crai the turn, not many players check raise turn or river and it would scare the shit out of him and we are in good shape if called (fwi, I think he folds most of his range when you do this, regardless of your spewy image). Not only will this look very strong, but it will really put him off getting tricky and floating you in the future.

Generally speaking you are in a win win situation with this turn card, barrelling is fine of course and we have to stack off if reraised, only problem is what we do if we barrel, get called and river is a blank but thats for another thread. Checking with the intention of checkraising but villain checks back isnt terrible either because we get that elusive free card and there are lots of rivers we like that he wont believe (a nine would be gin).

For pure metagame purposes, how about just plain shoving the turn to confound that image you are creating? I'm basing this on the site you are playing on having a small player pool and you are likely to come up against him a lot. I personally wouldn't, but I know you like everyone thinking you are a complete spewtard.


Title: Re: 3b pot w nfd, turn bricks....double barrel> cr?
Post by: gribbo on December 29, 2008, 12:10:18 PM
Hey,
       i don't play stakes near as high as you but imo i like the way u played the hand and agree with dave. One of my mates who got me into poker and plays a lot of higher stakes online 5/10+ gave me a link to a online interview  the other day that I think you will find kl and helpful/

its a two part thing by a guy called samoleus and he talks about a lot of interesting stuff, esp his dislike for the current online 6-max games, with all the 3-betting squeezing etc, thought u would enjoy it as I know u play a very LAGGY style.

http://www.pokerroad.com/cash_plays/10-21-08/

Kieran


Title: Re: 3b pot w nfd, turn bricks....double barrel> cr?
Post by: kinboshi on December 29, 2008, 01:11:23 PM
I ran the OP through babelfish, but it came up blank.


Title: Re: 3b pot w nfd, turn bricks....double barrel> cr?
Post by: bolt pp on December 29, 2008, 02:46:45 PM
Against a decent reg I really like crai the turn, not many players check raise turn

Really? seems quite a common play at mid-high stakes with a draw

against a reg as long as you play your big hands the same no probs but i dont mind smashing the pot again here


Title: Re: 3b pot w nfd, turn bricks....double barrel> cr?
Post by: snoopy1239 on December 29, 2008, 04:09:17 PM
I don't like the check-raise. There's $200 in the pot and he has £250 left, so he'll have to call a check-raise with pretty much any hand. If you just bet out he is more likely to fold hands that are beating you such as Q-Q, J-J-, T-T, K-J, etc. If he has a nutty hand, you still have outs. I'm definitely not folding this hand post turn.


Title: Re: 3b pot w nfd, turn bricks....double barrel> cr?
Post by: AlexMartin on December 29, 2008, 09:10:06 PM
Hey,
       i don't play stakes near as high as you but imo i like the way u played the hand and agree with dave. One of my mates who got me into poker and plays a lot of higher stakes online 5/10+ gave me a link to a online interview  the other day that I think you will find kl and helpful/

its a two part thing by a guy called samoleus and he talks about a lot of interesting stuff, esp his dislike for the current online 6-max games, with all the 3-betting squeezing etc, thought u would enjoy it as I know u play a very LAGGY style.

http://www.pokerroad.com/cash_plays/10-21-08/

Kieran

cheers m8, i listen to it already :)

its better than 2+2podcast but damn his voice is so whiny aint it. the best is in the archives on bigpokersundays, the one with the italians. awesome.


Title: Re: 3b pot w nfd, turn bricks....double barrel> cr?
Post by: LutonGboi on December 30, 2008, 12:23:28 PM
Fire again.


Title: Re: 3b pot w nfd, turn bricks....double barrel> cr?
Post by: Ironside on December 30, 2008, 07:18:35 PM
I ran the OP through babelfish, but it came up blank.


i agree with tikay on this one


Title: Re: 3b pot w nfd, turn bricks....double barrel> cr?
Post by: pokerfan on December 31, 2008, 01:12:44 AM
$160 bet