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Title: Career Change...
Post by: sovietsong on January 02, 2009, 01:37:09 PM
Looking for abit of advice I guess, I have worked for a Bank for around 6 years and am in a comfortable job earning an ok wage (£23k + bonus), I am completing some more financial exams to further my 'career'.  The problem I face is I pretty much hate my job, 30% of my time is spent with customers selling (the only bit I enjoy) the rest is split between giving staff stick to generate me leads and paperwork.  At times my job is barable but I feel that I'm working towards a promotion that is more of the same which is obviously a bad idea as I already dislike my job.

I have never considered leaving in the past because I dont really have a clue what I'd like to do for a job, and if I did leave I would need to earn at least the same as what I get at the moment.  I have a degree in business management not that this makes a huge difference but I've seen a possible job at a supermarket as a department manager which I think I could get, I'm unsure if this is a great move but as its the new year I am considering my options as I dont think I can face another year in my current job.  I spoke to a friend who works in a similar position and he seems to enjoy his work, not sure if its a case of the grass always being greener etc. 

All I know is a change is required!  Just not sure what to do!


Title: Re: Career Change...
Post by: boldie on January 02, 2009, 03:12:46 PM
2 things,

1; The grass is alwasy greener.

2; If you hate your job you should always change.

3; If you see a job you like, why the hell not go for it?


OK, so that's three things...but you get my drift.

You don't want to be one of those guys that have hated their jobs for 15 years but are still in it.


Title: Re: Career Change...
Post by: sovietsong on January 02, 2009, 03:30:58 PM
2 things,

1; The grass is alwasy greener.

2; If you hate your job you should always change.

3; If you see a job you like, why the hell not go for it?


OK, so that's three things...but you get my drift.

You don't want to be one of those guys that have hated their jobs for 15 years but are still in it.

TY boldie, I have worked for the bank so long I feel kinda trapped.  I might have a serious look at other jobs not just the one my mate told me about in the pub!


Title: Re: Career Change...
Post by: boldie on January 02, 2009, 03:50:56 PM
2 things,

1; The grass is alwasy greener.

2; If you hate your job you should always change.

3; If you see a job you like, why the hell not go for it?


OK, so that's three things...but you get my drift.

You don't want to be one of those guys that have hated their jobs for 15 years but are still in it.

TY boldie, I have worked for the bank so long I feel kinda trapped.  I might have a serious look at other jobs not just the one my mate told me about in the pub!

We've all been there mate...the problem with not looking for something else is that you become used to being in a shitty job/job you hate..and before you know it you're wasting away years there.


Title: Re: Career Change...
Post by: ripple11 on January 02, 2009, 04:03:49 PM

 I presume your current job is basically a 9 to 5 Mon to Fri type job.
 You have to think whether you would be prepared to work shifts/and weekends ...in another profession.(ie  in a supermarket)

I  used to do shifts/weekends for quite a few years....and found it fine when young free and single......but  Mon to Fri/ 9 to 5 now suits my lifestyle!


Title: Re: Career Change...
Post by: Sark79 on January 02, 2009, 04:15:57 PM
I work in a Supermarket and it is not a great job.  To be honest, managers in supermarkets are glorified shelf stacker's. They do everything the minions do, only they have slightly more authority.  As Ripple points out, back shifts are horrible when you are used to finishing at 5pm.

  There are a few managers where I work who have degrees and have used this to get fast track promotion, however they still have to unload boxes and stand out in the rain loading up a compactor with leftover rotting produce, etc. One manager I work with has a physics degree and when I see him stacking fruit, I think to myself  "WTF are you doing here?"



Title: Re: Career Change...
Post by: sovietsong on January 02, 2009, 04:20:14 PM
I work in a Supermarket and it is not a great job.  To be honest, managers in supermarkets are glorified shelf stacker's. They do everything the minions do, only they have slightly more authority.  As Ripple points out, back shifts are horrible when you are used to finishing at 5pm.

  There are a few managers where I work who have degrees and have used this to get fast track promotion, however they still have to unload boxes and stand out in the rain loading up a compactor with leftover rotting produce, etc. One manager I work with has a physics degree and when I see him stacking fruit, I think to myself  "WTF are you doing here?"



I know what your saying but stacking fruit would be a whole world better than the stress I get in my current role. 


Title: Re: Career Change...
Post by: Sark79 on January 02, 2009, 04:24:51 PM
Good luck mate, I am sure you will make the right choice for you.

 The only person who isn't looking for another job in the place where I work is the store manager who earns over £70,000. Every department manager I know is currently looking for a career changed, however like every job it is difficult to make the move incase is turns sour.


Title: Re: Career Change...
Post by: RED-DOG on January 02, 2009, 04:28:41 PM
Usually, you have two choices.

1: Do something you like and make money a secondairy consideration.

2: Do something you don't like and make money a primairy consideration.

If you have a third choice, you are extremely lucky.



Title: Re: Career Change...
Post by: sovietsong on January 02, 2009, 04:31:11 PM
Good luck mate, I am sure you will make the right choice for you.

 The only person who isn't looking for another job in the place where I work is the store manager who earns over £70,000. Every department manager I know is currently looking for a career changed, however like every job it is difficult to make the move incase is turns sour.

Its really difficult because the guy I spoke to is a department manager, he says the hours are bad but the jobs pretty easy, however he is quite a positive guy and would enjoy any job he has.  I'm just not sure what to do, I guess I need a change most of all and a supermarket job seemed to be ideal as the money is ok and I guess I didnt really think that there would be too much stress!

As i've worked for the current company for 6 years I have job security etc but I dislike it a great deal.  Its a toughy!


Title: Re: Career Change...
Post by: sovietsong on January 02, 2009, 04:32:35 PM
Usually, you have two choices.

1: Do something you like and make money a secondairy consideration.

2: Do something you don't like and make money a primairy consideration.

If you have a third choice, you are extremely lucky.



Very true, I dont really want a great deal, £25k a year.  The problem I face is I cant think of any job I'd like to do.  If I could do something I enjoyed and earn less money that would be brilliant, problem is...what do I like!?


Title: Re: Career Change...
Post by: RED-DOG on January 02, 2009, 04:36:40 PM
Usually, you have two choices.

1: Do something you like and make money a secondairy consideration.

2: Do something you don't like and make money a primairy consideration.

If you have a third choice, you are extremely lucky.



Very true, I dont really want a great deal, £25k a year.  The problem I face is I cant think of any job I'd like to do.  If I could do something I enjoyed and earn less money that would be brilliant, problem is...what do I like!?

http://www.rspca.org.uk/servlet/Satellite?pagename=RSPCA/Careers/CareersHomepage


Title: Re: Career Change...
Post by: Geo the Sarge on January 02, 2009, 05:42:08 PM
Have you considered something different within your current company?

For example, I work at Scottish Widows which is now part of the Lloyds TSB group and all Lloyds vacancies are available to me. I work on pensions, however, say I wanted to go to the bank side, there is a chance I can find something keeping my same level of salary and just as important, all my additional benefits going.

Have you considered maybe going the other way Bank to Insurance or Pensions. Have you enquired through your companies graduate management scheme for example? Most of these have a 2 year period where you do 4 different job types for a six month spell, I reckon this would be quite interesting.

Or do you just merely want to move away from finance altogether?

Geo


Title: Re: Career Change...
Post by: Acidmouse on January 02, 2009, 05:44:06 PM
Loads of jobs at Uni doing a cross section of things for 20-30k without any stress involved. Lots of holidays+chilled environment, look at their websites for job lists.


Title: Re: Career Change...
Post by: bolt pp on January 02, 2009, 06:34:35 PM
I work in a Supermarket and it is not a great job.  To be honest, managers in supermarkets are glorified shelf stacker's. They do everything the minions do, only they have slightly more authority.  As Ripple points out, back shifts are horrible when you are used to finishing at 5pm.

  There are a few managers where I work who have degrees and have used this to get fast track promotion, however they still have to unload boxes and stand out in the rain loading up a compactor with leftover rotting produce, etc. One manager I work with has a physics degree and when I see him stacking fruit, I think to myself  "WTF are you doing here?"



Sark wasnt you doing a college/university thing?


Title: Re: Career Change...
Post by: bolt pp on January 02, 2009, 06:36:29 PM
Usually, you have two choices.

1: Do something you like and make money a secondairy consideration.

2: Do something you don't like and make money a primairy consideration.

If you have a third choice, you are extremely lucky.



the third choice is play poker for a living isnt it?



Title: Re: Career Change...
Post by: Sark79 on January 02, 2009, 06:41:35 PM
I work in a Supermarket and it is not a great job.  To be honest, managers in supermarkets are glorified shelf stacker's. They do everything the minions do, only they have slightly more authority.  As Ripple points out, back shifts are horrible when you are used to finishing at 5pm.

  There are a few managers where I work who have degrees and have used this to get fast track promotion, however they still have to unload boxes and stand out in the rain loading up a compactor with leftover rotting produce, etc. One manager I work with has a physics degree and when I see him stacking fruit, I think to myself  "WTF are you doing here?"



Sark wasnt you doing a college/university thing?


Yep mate, I was doing geography,  however I dropped out half way through 3rd year. I am trying to figure out what I want to do with life like everyone else, lol.   


Title: Re: Career Change...
Post by: bolt pp on January 02, 2009, 06:45:52 PM
I work in a Supermarket and it is not a great job.  To be honest, managers in supermarkets are glorified shelf stacker's. They do everything the minions do, only they have slightly more authority.  As Ripple points out, back shifts are horrible when you are used to finishing at 5pm.

  There are a few managers where I work who have degrees and have used this to get fast track promotion, however they still have to unload boxes and stand out in the rain loading up a compactor with leftover rotting produce, etc. One manager I work with has a physics degree and when I see him stacking fruit, I think to myself  "WTF are you doing here?"



Sark wasnt you doing a college/university thing?


Yep mate, I was doing geography,  however I dropped out half way through 3rd year. I am trying to figure out what I want to do with life like everyone else, lol.   

you got all the way to the third year doing a course like this in your adult life and dropped out! how come?


Title: Re: Career Change...
Post by: Sark79 on January 02, 2009, 06:53:43 PM
I was running very short on money at the time. It was a boring course to be honest. I was doing human geography rather than environmental/physical geography.

The subject most of us were taught in school is proper good old fashioned geography dealing with glaciers,rivers, etc unlike human geography which is more like economics.


Title: Re: Career Change...
Post by: Simon Galloway on January 02, 2009, 07:21:32 PM
Usually, you have two choices.

1: Do something you like and make money a secondairy consideration.

2: Do something you don't like and make money a primairy consideration.

If you have a third choice, you are extremely lucky.



the third choice is play poker for a living isnt it?



Depending on how good/lucky you are at poker, that could quite easily fall under 1. or 2. for most people.

I think the internal job board is well worth a look, assuming its a big bank there are probably some whacky things to do that most careers advisors had no idea existed as a job title.  I've known people getting paid a matching salary to transfer internally in global banks to roles as diverse as crewing a yacht for a year, teaching English in.......land, health and safety officer etc all requiring no particular qualification, all with the potential to dress up as 'broadening your exposure to all facets of the company in an attempt to advance' when really you want to swing the lead for a few years.

Depending on circumstance, I would lean towards roles offering a transfer to a different continent.  I would also lean towards any voluntary redundancy that might be around the corner.  If you are going to end up with rotten fruit down your suit each day, you may as well take a golden goodbye with you rather than just jacking it in.


Title: Re: Career Change...
Post by: sovietsong on January 03, 2009, 12:20:23 PM
Thank you for all your help and advice, I am going to check a few things out when I return to work on Monday and have a serious think about what I want from life etc (deep i know!)

I will let you know what I end up doing! 


Title: Re: Career Change...
Post by: bolt pp on January 03, 2009, 11:25:11 PM
Thank you for all your help and advice, I am going to check a few things out when I return to work on Monday and have a serious think about what I want from life etc (deep i know!)

I will let you know what I end up doing! 

Ive got a great idea for a career change for you, do you have the keys/code to the Bank's safe?

(seriously i'm not joking , let me know)


Title: Re: Career Change...
Post by: Ecosse on January 04, 2009, 12:20:09 AM
Thank you for all your help and advice, I am going to check a few things out when I return to work on Monday and have a serious think about what I want from life etc (deep i know!)

I will let you know what I end up doing! 

Ive got a great idea for a career change for you, do you have the keys/code to the Bank's safe?

(seriously i'm not joking , let me know)
rotflmfao


Title: Re: Career Change...
Post by: sovietsong on January 04, 2009, 01:09:53 AM
Need two people for the job...lol



Title: Re: Career Change...
Post by: boldie on January 04, 2009, 11:07:11 AM
Need two people for the job...lol



I'm in :)


Title: Re: Career Change...
Post by: The Nomad on January 04, 2009, 12:13:08 PM
I cannot believe it got to the 2nd page of the thread before it was suggested. ;goodluck;