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Is folding this bad, dont use a HUD so dont have stats but id descibe the big stack as being pretty aggro. Really wasnt sure what to do.

Full Tilt Poker Game #9873401282: Table Lazarette (6 max) - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 17:25:10 ET - 2009/01/05
Seat 1: mphgph ($50)
Seat 2: TheSlinger ($82.30)
Seat 3: hardltilted ($23.75)
Seat 4: upaymybeer ($26.35), is sitting out
Seat 5: Tuuuuuuut ($60.85)
Seat 6: daves2s ($87.75)
Tuuuuuuut posts the small blind of $0.25
daves2s posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to daves2s [Kc Kh]
mphgph folds
TheSlinger raises to $1.75
hardltilted calls $1.75
Tuuuuuuut raises to $6.75
daves2s has 15 seconds left to act
daves2s raises to $16.50
TheSlinger raises to $82.30, and is all in
hardltilted has 15 seconds left to act
hardltilted calls $22, and is all in
Tuuuuuuut folds
daves2s has 15 seconds left to act
daves2s has requested TIME

call

win

cash out

buy a HUD

:)

Problem is i tried a HUD one time n felt i was playing worse with it. Probably wasnt utilizing the info it gives correctly. Any way back to the hand, is it that simple? just call and chalk it up as a cooler if he has aa. Im not a fan of folding kk pre but if there is ever a time to do it this has to come close?

.25-.50 not 25-50 snap this plz, then go join bandit in the 50p que

no idea why you think this is a strange spot. just do this

Not sure why this is a strange spot either. Villian is aggro. Instant call

lol - least you never tore me to shreds :)

This pre flop action is irregular imo which is why i called it a strange spot. I called Fwiw but far from snapped.

he can show me aces and I am still calling. 

I think your probs up against 99/TT/JJ/AQ/AK

Thanks for the input guys. Didnt think it was as straightforward as this but i made the right play so im happy. I mainly play stts and mtts but trying to play more cash so needed to hear some opinions.

Fold

can only be AA

only pab knows how to fold KK preflop. For mere mortals this is a fistpump chairspin.

Brag : Just fist pumped and chair spun
Beat : Complication with headphone cable, fell off chair
Variance : I now use a little low key elbow dance for such occasions instead.

Extending this discussion slightly (apologies if it has been covered before), how many BBs would it have to be before considering folding the KK to a 5-bet shove?

Obviously depends on opponent, but I seem to remember the blogger SmartPoker(??) trying to put a figure on this at some point.

pmsl

Blog was SmartPoker yes, he was SmartMoney on here (anybody know what happened to him? Killed in a duel by LuckyLloyd?). Don't remember the numbers, if there were any, though he played full-ring rather than 6-max, which does make KK much easier to fold pre in some situations against some players.

As for this hand - I can well understand why this is a strange spot... Games at these stakes can be pretty nitty and less aggressive preflop than higher stakes. The table as a whole really can't show any more strength than it does here. UTG raise, flatted, 3bet from SB, 4bet from BB, UTG 5-bet shoves for 160bbs... Obviously some basic stats on UTG would help massively here, as would some idea of the flow of the game, but in general, in this game and without any reads, I think I'd be folding this with 150bbs+ starting stacks. Less than that, if the short stack wasn't also all-in.