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Title: JJ on the button
Post by: Dingdell on January 13, 2009, 07:45:12 PM
3 tables out, moved to new table, I have 25,000 average 16,000

I am on button, folded round to me and I find Jh Jc. Blinds 400/800.

Un known on SB, MDD R Lynch on BB. What is a reasonable raise here?


Title: Re: JJ on the button
Post by: TightEnd on January 13, 2009, 07:46:35 PM
what are the stacks of the blinds, esp MDD?


Title: Re: JJ on the button
Post by: TheChipPrince on January 13, 2009, 07:48:40 PM
2.2k is my standard here, 2.6k is there's ante's...

Need player and stack info though...


Title: Re: JJ on the button
Post by: Dingdell on January 13, 2009, 07:50:36 PM
Sorry - SB approx 8000. MDD just covers me


Title: Re: JJ on the button
Post by: TightEnd on January 13, 2009, 07:53:29 PM
2,800-3,000, Snap calling a sb push, cursing when MDD re-raises


Title: Re: JJ on the button
Post by: Newportlad on January 13, 2009, 07:54:00 PM
Yep. 2.2K seems pretty good there then.
Be prepared to get the lot in though if re-raised...
Sometimes you need to gamble.  Win a big pot here, and you should go deep.


Title: Re: JJ on the button
Post by: TheChipPrince on January 13, 2009, 07:56:45 PM
2,800-3,000, Snap calling a sb push, cursing when MDD re-raises

Why so much Tighty?  Is this beacuse you know the player?


Title: Re: JJ on the button
Post by: Dingdell on January 13, 2009, 08:00:04 PM
I raised to 2.5, MDD reraised to 5k.


Title: Re: JJ on the button
Post by: TightEnd on January 13, 2009, 08:01:08 PM
2,800-3,000, Snap calling a sb push, cursing when MDD re-raises

Why so much Tighty?  Is this beacuse you know the player?

I want to make the bet a touch bigger than the 2,200 being suggested as I want it to look like a button steal. This should widen the re-stealing range of either blind

Yes I know the BB well, and he'll go to war with a lot of paint and most Aces if he think's you are at it


Title: Re: JJ on the button
Post by: Newportlad on January 13, 2009, 08:11:17 PM
I raised to 2.5, MDD reraised to 5k.

Shove it in!


Title: Re: JJ on the button
Post by: totalise on January 13, 2009, 08:12:55 PM
I raised to 2.5, MDD reraised to 5k.


go allin and embrace variance with a casual smile


Title: Re: JJ on the button
Post by: TightEnd on January 13, 2009, 08:14:45 PM
gotta shove I think



Title: Re: JJ on the button
Post by: booder on January 13, 2009, 08:16:30 PM
gotta shove I think




Title: Re: JJ on the button
Post by: TheChipPrince on January 13, 2009, 08:22:20 PM
You have the 4th best hand, you cannot give him credit for having one of the 3 better hands just because he raised a button raise, this is an absolute stone wall ''get it in'' moment, i'll be astonished if anyone says otherwise...


Title: Re: JJ on the button
Post by: Dingdell on January 13, 2009, 10:24:02 PM
Good. I'm glad you all said that - I was wondering if I could have got away from it - he had  Qs Qh and obv I was then out of the tourney. I didn't think I could have played it differently but I wondered if I had been a bit chip happy. Pleased I did the right thing - thanks.


Title: Re: JJ on the button
Post by: AlexMartin on January 14, 2009, 01:06:51 PM
I like 1600.


Title: Re: JJ on the button
Post by: Dewi_cool on January 14, 2009, 01:13:28 PM
Fold your probably behind


Title: Re: JJ on the button
Post by: GreekStein on January 14, 2009, 01:14:26 PM
I like 1600.

I hate it when women minraise me, I'd be inclined to throw QQ away! lol

Think 2200 is better


Title: Re: JJ on the button
Post by: TightEnd on January 14, 2009, 01:16:38 PM
I like 1600.


why mate? Prices in a lot of BB hands, or is that the point?


Title: Re: JJ on the button
Post by: snoopy1239 on January 14, 2009, 03:08:06 PM
I raised to 2.5, MDD reraised to 5k.

Fold. I reckon he has kings or queens, most likely queens though.


Title: Re: JJ on the button
Post by: kinboshi on January 14, 2009, 03:58:37 PM
Fold your probably behind

Valid point, and great thread Dewi :)up


Title: Re: JJ on the button
Post by: MANTIS01 on January 14, 2009, 04:52:51 PM
That dude peppercorn/steak? folded J-J at the D.T.D. final table last month. I said at the time it was visionary.