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Title: JJ with an awkward stack Post by: Cf on January 15, 2009, 02:43:37 AM Alea £40 freezeout
Blinds 200/400 Villian has about 12k Hero has 7k Villian has been playing very tight so far, and i've only seen him open 1 or 2 pots all night (in about 90 minutes). The one that went to showdown he had AA. Villian raises UTG+1 to 1500 Folds to Hero in MP with JJ Given that i'm relitively short stacked, but by no means desperate, what is a reasonable line to take here? Title: Re: JJ with an awkward stack Post by: Longy on January 15, 2009, 08:31:16 AM I would shove (or at least 3 bet a committing amount), though he appear to be a nit. In live poker you never get a massive sample size over 90 mins, so he may be opening a bit lighter than he appears to be.
Title: Re: JJ with an awkward stack Post by: GrannyDee on January 15, 2009, 08:41:08 AM I know where you are coming from op however in live poker 90 mins would only be about 30 hands or so. Is this a 9-10 handed table? What was his raise amount with the Aces? I'm still getting in it and go for the shove cos it looks weaker than a commiting 3-bet.
FWIW I would fold AQ/99 type hands against a 'tight' villain depending on reads. Title: Re: JJ with an awkward stack Post by: TheChipPrince on January 15, 2009, 12:15:36 PM I would shove 90% of the time here unless he's the rock from rocksville
Title: Re: JJ with an awkward stack Post by: MC on January 15, 2009, 12:22:25 PM I would shove 90% of the time here unless he's the rock from rocksville ^^Lol, agree Title: Re: JJ with an awkward stack Post by: kinboshi on January 15, 2009, 12:23:52 PM I shove here with JJ. What does everyone do with AQ or AJ?
Title: Re: JJ with an awkward stack Post by: MC on January 15, 2009, 12:27:00 PM I shove here with JJ. What does everyone do with AQ or AJ? If we're assuming this player is mega-tight, I'm def folding AJ. If I think he can fold to a raise, I probs shove AQ at least half of the time; but if not, I could potentially pass it. Title: Re: JJ with an awkward stack Post by: GreekStein on January 15, 2009, 12:42:33 PM I shove here with JJ. What does everyone do with AQ or AJ? If we're assuming this player is mega-tight, I'm def folding AJ. If I think he can fold to a raise, I probs shove AQ at least half of the time; but if not, I could potentially pass it. This. AJ is an insta-fold, not sure I like AQ either but same as James I probably shove it around half the time Title: Re: JJ with an awkward stack Post by: Girgy85 on January 15, 2009, 12:48:34 PM Its a definate fold for me! I can see Villian with KK here!
Title: Re: JJ with an awkward stack Post by: Cf on January 15, 2009, 02:30:00 PM I also came to the conclusion that I had to shove, but I wasn't the least bit suprised when I was shown KK.
A 3bet obviously also commits me. Calling leaves me with no idea what he has, and the 8 high flop that came would have resulted in all the money going in anyway. Is folding ever an option here? I was tempted to so, but decided that this was probably a little too weak. Title: Re: JJ with an awkward stack Post by: noble1 on January 16, 2009, 01:16:36 PM Quote Villian has been playing very tight so far, and i've only seen him open 1 or 2 pots all night (in about 90 minutes). The one that went to showdown he had AA. your initial impression of him is that he is tight and he has raised ep,i get the feeling you ignored your gut instinct and played your cards rather than the situation/player .. folding here is not weak .. Title: Re: JJ with an awkward stack Post by: TheChipPrince on January 16, 2009, 01:22:32 PM I also came to the conclusion that I had to shove, but I wasn't the least bit suprised when I was shown KK. A 3bet obviously also commits me. Calling leaves me with no idea what he has, and the 8 high flop that came would have resulted in all the money going in anyway. Is folding ever an option here? I was tempted to so, but decided that this was probably a little too weak. Its very difficult, if not nigh on impossible to put him KK purely because a raise. A re-raise or re-re-raise, ok fair enough, but I wouldn't beat yourself, i'd have done exactly the same... Title: Re: JJ with an awkward stack Post by: paulhouk03 on January 19, 2009, 06:37:52 PM if ur read is good and u feel that ur beat just fold.
but normally haduken u have a big hand Title: Re: JJ with an awkward stack Post by: Horneris on January 19, 2009, 08:12:11 PM Im All In here Charles.
Title: Re: JJ with an awkward stack Post by: AlexMartin on January 20, 2009, 06:55:54 AM ur just unlucky, dont stand up though, 20% shots live come in if you shout a lot.
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