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Title: Just a few cash hands Post by: mondatoo on January 26, 2009, 08:06:36 PM Ok so just spunked like 4 bi's in 2hrs and just thought i'd put a couple hands up for some responses.
Hand 1 I've played with opp a bit he seems pretty competent not great,my image to him is pretty much tag ***** Hand History for Game 473050857 ***** $50.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, January 26, 06:51:58 ET 2009 Table Neon 109 (Real Money) Seat 1 is the button Seat 1: sPeEdBrEaKr ( $45.97 USD ) Seat 2: CeeJayPee ( $119.13 USD ) Seat 3: mondo07 ( $60.85 USD ) Seat 4: prainiac1 ( $49.60 USD ) Seat 5: lillol ( $23.98 USD ) Seat 6: Serene Wolf ( $51.24 USD ) CeeJayPee posts small blind [$0.25 USD]. mondo07 posts big blind [$0.50 USD]. ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to mondo07 [ Ah Qs ] prainiac1 folds lillol folds Serene Wolf raises [$1.75 USD] sPeEdBrEaKr calls [$1.75 USD] CeeJayPee folds mondo07 raises [$6.75 USD] Serene Wolf calls [$5.50 USD] sPeEdBrEaKr calls [$5.50 USD] ** Dealing Flop ** [ 6c, Jc, 2s ] mondo07 checks Serene Wolf bets [$12.00 USD] sPeEdBrEaKr folds mondo07 raises [$53.60 USD] Serene Wolf calls [$31.99 USD] mondo07 wins $9.61 USD mondo07 shows [Ah, Qs ] Serene Wolf shows [Qd, Jd ] ** Dealing Turn ** [ 5d ] ** Dealing River ** [ 9c ] Serene Wolf wins $106.98 USD from main pot Hand 2 I think is pretty standard more interested in fact that he only has half a stack ***** Hand History for Game 473038228 ***** $50.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, January 26, 06:30:46 ET 2009 Table Neon 16 (Real Money) Seat 2 is the button Seat 1: Serene Wolf ( $31.05 USD ) Seat 2: mondo07 ( $49.25 USD ) Seat 3: DNoizer1337 ( $50.60 USD ) Seat 4: mrduttwin ( $20.80 USD ) Seat 5: Tooshbag ( $37.30 USD ) Seat 6: 559259195 ( $61.86 USD ) DNoizer1337 posts small blind [$0.25 USD]. mrduttwin posts big blind [$0.50 USD]. ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to mondo07 [ Qc 9d ] Tooshbag folds 559259195 calls [$0.50 USD] Serene Wolf folds mondo07 raises [$2.60 USD] DNoizer1337 folds mrduttwin calls [$2.10 USD] 559259195 calls [$2.10 USD] ** Dealing Flop ** [ Ts, 3d, Jh ] mrduttwin bets [$3.20 USD] 559259195 folds mondo07 raises [$17.65 USD] mrduttwin calls [$14.45 USD] ** Dealing Turn ** [ Js ] mrduttwin bets [$0.55 USD] mondo07 calls [$0.55 USD] mondo07 shows [Qc, 9d ] mrduttwin shows [Jc, Ad ] ** Dealing River ** [ 6s ] mrduttwin wins $42.25 USD from main pot Other hands where just a standard QQ into AA rr shove which i called and donk plays from myself with AK and top pair sigh. Title: Re: Just a few cash hands Post by: MC on January 26, 2009, 08:11:30 PM 2nd hand looks standard...
You should let 1st hand go most of the time; J is a plausible card to hit, he's bet into 2 players, plus the flush draw there.... Title: Re: Just a few cash hands Post by: AlexMartin on January 26, 2009, 11:30:48 PM they both look fine. hand 1 u might just fold to his donk purely because a lot of flushdraws are calling. wp, variance will come through.
Title: Re: Just a few cash hands Post by: byronkincaid on January 26, 2009, 11:33:57 PM they both look fine. hand 1 u might just fold to his donk purely because a lot of flushdraws are calling. wp, variance will come through. its not a donk Title: Re: Just a few cash hands Post by: totalise on January 27, 2009, 01:16:45 AM hand 1 is really really terrible
hand 2 is ok, I think id prolly just call the flop though, his lead into the field means if you hit your hand you are gonna get paid close to 100% of the time, which consequently means he almost never folds to your riase, so you are kinda shifting the odds into your favour by just calling. Title: Re: Just a few cash hands Post by: AlexMartin on January 27, 2009, 03:09:39 AM hand 1 is really really terrible hand 2 is ok, I think id prolly just call the flop though, his lead into the field means if you hit your hand you are gonna get paid close to 100% of the time, which consequently means he almost never folds to your riase, so you are kinda shifting the odds into your favour by just calling. lol Title: Re: Just a few cash hands Post by: totalise on January 27, 2009, 03:12:36 AM hand 1 is really really terrible hand 2 is ok, I think id prolly just call the flop though, his lead into the field means if you hit your hand you are gonna get paid close to 100% of the time, which consequently means he almost never folds to your riase, so you are kinda shifting the odds into your favour by just calling. lol why lol Title: Re: Just a few cash hands Post by: AlexMartin on January 27, 2009, 03:20:51 AM hand 1 is really really terrible hand 2 is ok, I think id prolly just call the flop though, his lead into the field means if you hit your hand you are gonna get paid close to 100% of the time, which consequently means he almost never folds to your riase, so you are kinda shifting the odds into your favour by just calling. lol why lol it can never be that bad. opponent is competent, should recognise that our range here is generally tight. His donking range wont ever be that strong. add to that the fact its 3way to the flop makes our shove look even stronger. finally the fact we always have some equity and its ok imo, deffo some of the time when playing regulars imo. Title: Re: Just a few cash hands Post by: totalise on January 27, 2009, 03:28:08 AM hand 1 is really really terrible hand 2 is ok, I think id prolly just call the flop though, his lead into the field means if you hit your hand you are gonna get paid close to 100% of the time, which consequently means he almost never folds to your riase, so you are kinda shifting the odds into your favour by just calling. lol why lol it can never be that bad. opponent is competent, should recognise that our range here is generally tight. His donking range wont ever be that strong. add to that the fact its 3way to the flop makes our shove look even stronger. finally the fact we always have some equity and its ok imo, deffo some of the time when playing regulars imo. 1) it isn't a donk bet. 2) hes bet into a field of players when the pre flop r/r has checked. 3) LOL take a look in your pokertracker, everyone take a look in their pokertracker, take a look @ how often you r/r pre and then c/r flops, and then take a look at how often you have a made hand vs a draw. This is without doubt the most unbalanced spot in SSNL. People dont bet here unless they are stacking off, so your c/r here, is, without doubt, terrible. I know its cool to spew 2p2 axioms and to use "range" 10 times in a single post, but you cant be using ranges when you play your hand in a way that will never rep a good range. Title: Re: Just a few cash hands Post by: AlexMartin on January 27, 2009, 03:36:52 AM hand 1 is really really terrible hand 2 is ok, I think id prolly just call the flop though, his lead into the field means if you hit your hand you are gonna get paid close to 100% of the time, which consequently means he almost never folds to your riase, so you are kinda shifting the odds into your favour by just calling. lol why lol it can never be that bad. opponent is competent, should recognise that our range here is generally tight. His donking range wont ever be that strong. add to that the fact its 3way to the flop makes our shove look even stronger. finally the fact we always have some equity and its ok imo, deffo some of the time when playing regulars imo. 1) it isn't a donk bet. 2) hes bet into a field of players when the pre flop r/r has checked. 3) LOL take a look in your pokertracker, everyone take a look in their pokertracker, take a look @ how often you r/r pre and then c/r flops, and then take a look at how often you have a made hand vs a draw. This is without doubt the most unbalanced spot in SSNL. People dont bet here unless they are stacking off, so your c/r here, is, without doubt, terrible. I know its cool to spew 2p2 axioms and to use "range" 10 times in a single post, but you cant be using ranges when you play your hand in a way that will never rep a good range. doh, my bad, didnt see it was a cr, thought villain donked and mondo shoved. scratch what i said. spew mondo m8 :( Title: Re: Just a few cash hands Post by: Blatch on January 27, 2009, 04:12:40 AM Really dont like hand one. At this standard most are pretty ABC and would you seriously check on a board like this, against two players, with a made hand?
Without stats or reads on either of you my guess here would be that top pair would be good in most situations. Hand 2 just standard. Title: Re: Just a few cash hands Post by: T_Mar on January 28, 2009, 10:59:54 PM Hand 1 already been talked about, but not sure I would play hand 2 like you did given you up against a shorty, if he hit any part of this flop which it looks like he has given the lead, then he is not folding to your raise.. if he was deeper stacked then I would like a raise but would be looking to get it in with some kind of made hand against the short stack... Interested to know others thoughts on this tho?
Title: Re: Just a few cash hands Post by: Nem on January 29, 2009, 10:37:14 PM hand 1 raise to $8 pre, fold to his bet. hand 2 fold preflop.
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