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Title: Im not thick but..... how do you drive up a hill in the snow?
Post by: StuartHopkin on February 03, 2009, 12:03:59 AM
Scared the poo out of myself this evening.

I knew there was going to be a problem but was ensured people had been driving up the hill.

Pretty obvious they hadnt.

So now i find myself wheels a spinning trying to make my way to the restaurant.

What are you meant to do? I cant remember my driving lessons, jees I cant drive at the best of times. But i vaguely remember some instructions for driving in the snow/ice.

Basically my wheels just kept a spinning, low revs, high revs, 1st gear, 2nd gear. Somehow i managed to get to the top after skidding around all over the place, riding the clutch and my car making some horrible noises! The finest bit was when i was turning left, my back end was going left and i almost hit a lampost!

Can anyone remind me what your meant to do, and does it make a difference that my car is a rear wheel drive?

Thanks!  ;D


Title: Re: Im not thick but..... how do you drive up a hill in the snow?
Post by: KarmaDope on February 03, 2009, 12:08:03 AM
Don't drive up a hill in the snow unless you own a 4x4.


Title: Re: Im not thick but..... how do you drive up a hill in the snow?
Post by: StuartHopkin on February 03, 2009, 12:14:41 AM
I actually thought that.
All the time i laugh at people with their big stupid 4x4's.

Oh how they would have laughed at me tonight!


Title: Re: Im not thick but..... how do you drive up a hill in the snow?
Post by: Dingdell on February 03, 2009, 12:30:38 AM
Don't go up in first or second gear of you can help it. Steer into the slide if it happens to help yourself go straight. Wait until the road is clear before going up, worst thing is another car sliding back down towards you.


Title: Re: Im not thick but..... how do you drive up a hill in the snow?
Post by: Laxie on February 03, 2009, 12:37:25 AM
What Ding said + try to aim for the most 'snowy' bit.  You'll have more traction on that than you will on the bits worn down from other drivers.  We don't have many curbs in Ireland, so I aim for the side of the road.  Frozen grass and dirt give decent grip.


Title: Re: Im not thick but..... how do you drive up a hill in the snow?
Post by: RED-DOG on February 03, 2009, 12:39:59 AM
Deflate you,re rear tyres by 20psi


Title: Re: Im not thick but..... how do you drive up a hill in the snow?
Post by: Colchester Kev on February 03, 2009, 12:41:02 AM
ditch car and walk :)


Title: Re: Im not thick but..... how do you drive up a hill in the snow?
Post by: bolt pp on February 03, 2009, 12:41:37 AM
Deflate you,re rear tyres by 20psi

wow, you on the right board m8?


Title: Re: Im not thick but..... how do you drive up a hill in the snow?
Post by: Ironside on February 03, 2009, 12:42:43 AM
Deflate you,re rear tyres by 20psi

correct


Title: Re: Im not thick but..... how do you drive up a hill in the snow?
Post by: Royal Flush on February 03, 2009, 02:14:25 AM
If it's rear wheel drive then your best of reversing up the hill, i had much fun on country lanes today, car going in to get mended later in the week, lol


Title: Re: Im not thick but..... how do you drive up a hill in the snow?
Post by: cia260895 on February 03, 2009, 08:50:38 AM
Deflate you,re rear tyres by 20psi
If it's rear wheel drive then your best of reversing up the hill, i had much fun on country lanes today, car going in to get mended later in the week, lol

both of these


Title: Re: Im not thick but..... how do you drive up a hill in the snow?
Post by: TheChipPrince on February 03, 2009, 09:20:35 AM
If it's rear wheel drive then your best of reversing up the hill, i had much fun on country lanes today, car going in to get mended later in the week, lol

Yep, Grandad always told me when you come down banks in the snow (he's a gamekeeper), stick in reverse and clutch control it down, never tried it personnally...


Title: Re: Im not thick but..... how do you drive up a hill in the snow?
Post by: EvilPie on February 03, 2009, 10:17:33 AM
If it's rear wheel drive then your best of reversing up the hill, i had much fun on country lanes today, car going in to get mended later in the week, lol

Yep I had the same problem.

Found the best way was to actually let the rear tyres slide in to the kerb. At least this put me in a straight line andn let me get started.

not good for the alloys though. Going to get them mended later in the week.



Title: Re: Im not thick but..... how do you drive up a hill in the snow?
Post by: cia260895 on February 03, 2009, 10:26:14 AM
I wonder how many 4x4 drivers actually got stuck because the didnt know how to use the 4wd mode?


Title: Re: Im not thick but..... how do you drive up a hill in the snow?
Post by: kinboshi on February 03, 2009, 11:02:50 AM
If it's rear wheel drive then your best of reversing up the hill, i had much fun on country lanes today, car going in to get mended later in the week, lol

Yep I had the same problem.

Found the best way was to actually let the rear tyres slide in to the kerb. At least this put me in a straight line andn let me get started.

not good for the alloys though. Going to get them mended later in the week.



Sigh @ BMW drivers...


Title: Re: Im not thick but..... how do you drive up a hill in the snow?
Post by: Karabiner on February 03, 2009, 11:43:18 AM
Snow-tyres ftw.


Title: Re: Im not thick but..... how do you drive up a hill in the snow?
Post by: EvilPie on February 03, 2009, 12:12:35 PM
Deflate you,re rear tyres by 20psi

I've heard that this can work quite well.

I don't know if it would work on Stu's car though because it has run-flat's which will keep their shape. (Unless driven at excessive speeds I hasten to add)


Title: Re: Im not thick but..... how do you drive up a hill in the snow?
Post by: kinboshi on February 03, 2009, 01:45:40 PM
Deflate you,re rear tyres by 20psi

I've heard that this can work quite well.

I don't know if it would work on Stu's car though because it has run-flat's which will keep their shape. (Unless driven at excessive speeds I hasten to add)

Find a really icy hill, lower the pressure of his tyres, drive up it.

Please report back on his findings.


Title: Re: Im not thick but..... how do you drive up a hill in the snow?
Post by: EvilPie on February 03, 2009, 03:22:19 PM
Deflate you,re rear tyres by 20psi

I've heard that this can work quite well.

I don't know if it would work on Stu's car though because it has run-flat's which will keep their shape. (Unless driven at excessive speeds I hasten to add)

Find a really icy hill, lower the pressure of his tyres, drive up it.

Please report back on his findings.

Surely we need a hypothesis before we go jumping in to the experimental stage?

I think that with the reinforced side walls we will "cut" in to the snow therefore giving improved grip.


Title: Re: Im not thick but..... how do you drive up a hill in the snow?
Post by: kinboshi on February 03, 2009, 03:38:28 PM
Deflate you,re rear tyres by 20psi

I've heard that this can work quite well.

I don't know if it would work on Stu's car though because it has run-flat's which will keep their shape. (Unless driven at excessive speeds I hasten to add)

Find a really icy hill, lower the pressure of his tyres, drive up it.

Please report back on his findings.

Surely we need a hypothesis before we go jumping in to the experimental stage?

I think that with the reinforced side walls we will "cut" in to the snow therefore giving improved grip.

My hypothesis is that Stu will crash.

Now let's test it!


Title: Re: Im not thick but..... how do you drive up a hill in the snow?
Post by: rex008 on February 03, 2009, 03:56:11 PM
You lower the pressures to drive on deep snow or sand - gives you a bigger contact patch and stops digging in. For ice driving, tyres are typically as narrow and high pressure as possible, so the contact patch is smaller and they are more likely to dig in and find some grip. Find a pic of a rally car on ice tyres. Ridic narrow compared to tarmac ones. And studded, of course.

If you've got big fat sports tyres and want to get up a hill that's covered in snow... you're foooked, basically. Find a long way up with less of a slope.


Title: Re: Im not thick but..... how do you drive up a hill in the snow?
Post by: kinboshi on February 03, 2009, 04:00:18 PM
You lower the pressures to drive on deep snow or sand - gives you a bigger contact patch and stops digging in. For ice driving, tyres are typically as narrow and high pressure as possible, so the contact patch is smaller and they are more likely to dig in and find some grip. Find a pic of a rally car on ice tyres. Ridic narrow compared to tarmac ones. And studded, of course.

If you've got big fat sports tyres and want to get up a hill that's covered in snow... you're foooked, basically. Find a long way up with less of a slope.

That is so true.  I've seen Fiat 126s doing much better than wide-wheeled 4x4 cars on snowy/icy roads. 


Title: Re: Im not thick but..... how do you drive up a hill in the snow?
Post by: EvilPie on February 03, 2009, 04:57:02 PM
You lower the pressures to drive on deep snow or sand - gives you a bigger contact patch and stops digging in. For ice driving, tyres are typically as narrow and high pressure as possible, so the contact patch is smaller and they are more likely to dig in and find some grip. Find a pic of a rally car on ice tyres. Ridic narrow compared to tarmac ones. And studded, of course.

If you've got big fat sports tyres and want to get up a hill that's covered in snow... you're foooked, basically. Find a long way up with less of a slope.

That is so true.  I've seen Fiat 126s doing much better than wide-wheeled 4x4 cars on snowy/icy roads. 

Sounds about right.

My old Escort 1.3 was awesome on icy roads. You could thrash it and slide it everywhere but never felt like you were out of control.

This huge BMW thing though is like a living nightmare!! The back end was just all over the place. Not good at all.


Title: Re: Im not thick but..... how do you drive up a hill in the snow?
Post by: EvilPie on February 05, 2009, 12:13:06 PM
Just a thought Stu.

Did you turn your traction control off? You won't get anywhere fast with that switched on.


Title: Re: Im not thick but..... how do you drive up a hill in the snow?
Post by: StuartHopkin on February 05, 2009, 12:14:26 PM
Really?

Oh dear oh dear

I thought it was helping.

Im such a fool.
At least im a fool with a nice car!


Title: Re: Im not thick but..... how do you drive up a hill in the snow?
Post by: EvilPie on February 05, 2009, 12:23:54 PM
A fool with a nice car who couldn't be bothered to read the instructions.

To be fair mate I forgot to turn mine off the other day as well. It was only when I got home that I realised what a tit I'd been.

Good luck with the drive home tonight.


Title: Re: Im not thick but..... how do you drive up a hill in the snow?
Post by: EvilPie on February 05, 2009, 12:31:15 PM
That's only on the really bad bits btw where your own sensitivity is better than the car's.

Once you get going at normal speed you should turn it back because then the car is better than you at spotting traction loss and getting you out the poo.


Title: Re: Im not thick but..... how do you drive up a hill in the snow?
Post by: kinboshi on February 05, 2009, 01:14:48 PM
Nothing worse than your car sticking it in your eye.

How's the snow in Nottingham?


Title: Re: Im not thick but..... how do you drive up a hill in the snow?
Post by: gatso on February 05, 2009, 01:18:55 PM
get a cab up the hill imo

just watched a news report on the travel chaos where they interviewed a woman who thought that the conditions were too bad for driving so she was going to get a taxi to work instead


Title: Re: Im not thick but..... how do you drive up a hill in the snow?
Post by: kinboshi on February 05, 2009, 01:19:47 PM
get a cab up the hill imo

just watched a news report on the travel chaos where they interviewed a woman who thought that the conditions were too bad for driving so she was going to get a taxi to work instead

rotflmfao Stupid woman. 

She should have got the bus.

Unless of course she meant that she wasn't up to driving in the conditions, and thought it best that someone else drive her?


Title: Re: Im not thick but..... how do you drive up a hill in the snow?
Post by: Royal Flush on February 05, 2009, 02:26:48 PM
Really?

Oh dear oh dear

I thought it was helping.

Im such a fool.
At least im a fool with a nice car!


PMSL

I actually had it on at one point when i was stuck in a snow bank (had hit good part of the roads and then flown straight off again)