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Title: Flop nuts deep. He donks! Post by: AlexMartin on February 05, 2009, 09:49:18 PM Villain is a maniac. Doesnt 3b much but plays a 62/30/4 style. Obv deep ip i been isoing a lot and he has called every time. He does seem to understand hand strenght and the last time he donked into me i raised and he folded.
best multistreet plan? on flop flat/raise? if raise betsize please. ***** Betfair Poker Hand History for Game 478007932 ***** NL $1/$2 Texas Hold'em - Thursday, February 05, 20:53:11 GMT 2009 Table Oxygen 37 6-max (Real Money) Seat 6 is the button Total number of active players : 5 Seat 1: 344852 ( $195 ) Seat 2: karim123 ( $0 ) Seat 3: dylandanger ( $409.68 ) Seat 4: triple s ( $488.25 ) Seat 5: SewerRat ( $68.85 ) Seat 6: JammyJenny ( $472.10 ) 344852 posts small blind [$1] dylandanger posts big blind [$2] ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to JammyJenny [ Qh, Ah ] triple s raises to [$7] SewerRat folds JammyJenny raises to [$21] 344852 folds dylandanger folds triple s calls [$14] ** Dealing Flop ** [ Jh, Th, 4h ] triple s bets [$22.50] Title: Re: Flop nuts deep. He donks! Post by: gatso on February 05, 2009, 10:06:15 PM I def flat here as he's capable of laying down when his donk is raised
same again on turn or if he checks I may be tempted to check behind to let him donk the river overbet/rep the steal on the river if he checks again, jam if he bets Title: Re: Flop nuts deep. He donks! Post by: MC on February 05, 2009, 11:44:53 PM I like gatso's plan, but I'm not sure it's best for getting all the chips in.
I think I flat the flop, and raise any non-heart turn, say 2.5x his bet...2/3 bet if he checks. This way we might make money if he has a made hand and if he is drawing... Title: Re: Flop nuts deep. He donks! Post by: NoflopsHomer on February 06, 2009, 12:00:24 AM Raise tbh. If he knows hand strengths then he knows we should be raising with a lot of Ahrt x hands vs this lead and the times we flop the nut flush is pretty rare. Make it $100 so that his two pair/set/smaller flush range will likely peel a safe card to push or might even decide to push now.
Title: Re: Flop nuts deep. He donks! Post by: AlexMartin on February 06, 2009, 03:48:46 PM Raise tbh. If he knows hand strengths then he knows we should be raising with a lot of Ahrt x hands vs this lead and the times we flop the nut flush is pretty rare. Make it $100 so that his two pair/set/smaller flush range will likely peel a safe card to push or might even decide to push now. yeah i think this was right, anyway. turn, i think we deffo need to raise as this pot is too small, how much? or flat again, make some ridic overbet on the end and hope he levels himself (btw gatso, i like this line v a true LAG, but a maniac has poor handreading skills and will just interpret a big bet as a big hand imo). ***** Betfair Poker Hand History for Game 478007932 ***** NL $1/$2 Texas Hold'em - Thursday, February 05, 20:53:11 GMT 2009 Table Oxygen 37 6-max (Real Money) Seat 6 is the button Total number of active players : 5 Seat 1: 344852 ( $195 ) Seat 2: karim123 ( $0 ) Seat 3: dylandanger ( $409.68 ) Seat 4: triple s ( $488.25 ) Seat 5: SewerRat ( $68.85 ) Seat 6: JammyJenny ( $472.10 ) 344852 posts small blind [$1] dylandanger posts big blind [$2] ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to JammyJenny [ Qh, Ah ] triple s raises to [$7] SewerRat folds JammyJenny raises to [$21] 344852 folds dylandanger folds triple s calls [$14] ** Dealing Flop ** [ Jh, Th, 4h ] triple s bets [$22.50] JammyJenny calls [$22.50] ** Dealing Turn ** [ 4c ] triple s bets [$18] Title: Re: Flop nuts deep. He donks! Post by: MC on February 07, 2009, 03:32:56 PM Lol @ his turn bet
It looks like he's folding but I think you must raise here. I'd say to about $70-80... Title: Re: Flop nuts deep. He donks! Post by: Royal Flush on February 08, 2009, 12:44:50 PM Lol @ his turn bet It looks like he's folding but I think you must raise here. I'd say to about $70-80... Errr looks like he is inducing to me. Title: Re: Flop nuts deep. He donks! Post by: Longy on February 08, 2009, 01:43:57 PM His running 62/30 he is probably betting for info, or betting 22.50 cos that is how many beers he has had.
I would raise Alex and hope he spazzs out on you and shoves. Title: Re: Flop nuts deep. He donks! Post by: GlasgowBandit on February 08, 2009, 02:29:42 PM Lol @ his turn bet It looks like he's folding but I think you must raise here. I'd say to about $70-80... Errr looks like he is inducing to me. He has housed up surely? Title: Re: Flop nuts deep. He donks! Post by: paulhouk03 on February 10, 2009, 04:26:48 PM Lol @ his turn bet It looks like he's folding but I think you must raise here. I'd say to about $70-80... Errr looks like he is inducing to me. He has housed up surely? i think he has a strong hand but not great and he is just trying to get to showdown with a strange line. Title: Re: Flop nuts deep. He donks! Post by: gribbo on February 10, 2009, 04:53:10 PM If this guy is v.aggro etc and has crazy stats would raising his donk bet on the flop not a decent idea? If you have been doing this to the guy before and got him to fold why change it because the value of your hand is changed to the nuts? With the stacks being this deep on the flop do u not wana bloat the pot up and get max value? The guy could have something as fishy as Kh Js or Qh Jd here.
As for on the turn I raise his bet. Does he get it in with Td Tc and u ping the Kh on the river? :P Title: Re: Flop nuts deep. He donks! Post by: AlexMartin on February 11, 2009, 02:06:12 AM i raised to $75. He calls.
River he check folded. think i fked up by not bloating it faster. Title: Re: Flop nuts deep. He donks! Post by: MC on February 11, 2009, 03:11:47 PM Lol @ his turn bet It looks like he's folding but I think you must raise here. I'd say to about $70-80... Errr looks like he is inducing to me. He has housed up surely? Lol, I actually missed that the board paired, thought we still had the nuts...but bet looks more like a blocker bet than an inducing bet Perhaps could've raised the flop in retrospect Alex but think you played it fine... |