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Title: Deal or No Deal? Post by: Laxie on February 10, 2009, 04:20:40 PM FML. There's a crowd in our area who used to run a pub tour (not sure if they still do). I kicked up BIG TIME about it when they first started. It was €20 to play and €10 reg. fee!!! Reason? They bring all the gear and a few dealers. Sigh. Needless to say, whilst they had takers in a few places, they never got going in our village.
Anyway, never played their tour and stuck to our usual pub games. Lately, I've been looking to get away from pub poker and wanted to chance some more serious poker. Only card room in our area happens to be run by the same crew from the tour mentioned above. They have larger buy ins most of the week (€50 plus, depending on the night), but tonight is their cheap seats tourney. Figured I'd give it a go to check the place out. So I phoned them. "€25 Freeze out tonight." "What's the reg fee?" "No other fees...€25 all in" I know this can't be possible, but we continue with some small chat before I ask, "How much of the €25 is paid out in the prize pool?" "€20 goes into prizes and the other €5 goes to dealers and floor staff." "Right. OK, cheers." FFS. €20 + €5 reg?! Only other option is to drive 90 minutes to the Macau in Cork City where most tourneys are capped at 10% juice. By the time I get there, I've spent more in petrol than I've saved on reg fees. Have times changed and reg fees gone mad? Is it just me who thinks it's crazy? Please bring me some sanity. Thank you. Title: Re: Deal or No Deal? Post by: Wardonkey on February 10, 2009, 04:23:10 PM 5 Euro for a night out?
Bargain. Title: Re: Deal or No Deal? Post by: Colchester Kev on February 10, 2009, 04:24:13 PM Its not 25 +5
Its 20+5 Reasonable enough if their are dealers imo. Title: Re: Deal or No Deal? Post by: AndrewT on February 10, 2009, 04:26:04 PM People have to stop thinking of juice in terms of % of buy-in for low-buy in comps.
I think a €5 reg fee is perfectly reasonable for any dealer dealt comp - bit cheeky of them not to state this though. It should be billed as a €20+€5 tournament. Title: Re: Deal or No Deal? Post by: Claw75 on February 10, 2009, 04:26:33 PM People have to stop thinking of juice in terms of % of buy-in for low-buy in comps. I think a €5 reg fee is perfectly reasonable for any dealer dealt comp - bit cheeky of them not to state this though. It should be billed as a €20+€5 tournament. this Title: Re: Deal or No Deal? Post by: Laxie on February 10, 2009, 04:26:47 PM Its not 25 +5 Its 20+5 Reasonable enough if their are dealers imo. I know. Did an edit after I'd posted. Dealers = kids. Some aren't even 18 yet. 'Trained' by the organisers. Title: Re: Deal or No Deal? Post by: Wardonkey on February 10, 2009, 04:28:09 PM They make 50 Euro a table and have to pay the dealers from this. No-one getting rich from this game.
Title: Re: Deal or No Deal? Post by: paulhouk03 on February 10, 2009, 04:30:39 PM 5 Euro for a night out? Bargain. i wouldnt consider it a night out. maybe its just standard for me coz i am a degen but i think its resonable. 5Euro for dealer delt tourney Title: Re: Deal or No Deal? Post by: Graham C on February 10, 2009, 04:31:31 PM People have to stop thinking of juice in terms of % of buy-in for low-buy in comps. I think a €5 reg fee is perfectly reasonable for any dealer dealt comp - bit cheeky of them not to state this though. It should be billed as a €20+€5 tournament. this Deffo this. I don't mind paying for dealers etc, they cost money afterall. There's a room in Farnborough that has a £5 fee on comps, regardless on whether it's a £20 or £50, it's a fiver, but worth paying for the dealers etc. If it's a cowboy outfit, then that's a different issue. it's not just the dealers you want out of things, it's the knowledge that it's going to be run well, and if the staff aren't up to it, then I'd think again about going. Worth a try at least once though, you never know these kids may be half decent :) Title: Re: Deal or No Deal? Post by: Laxie on February 10, 2009, 04:35:18 PM Blimey. Not a single post to say it's unusual. Ok then. Might give them a try tonight.
Title: Re: Deal or No Deal? Post by: Graham C on February 10, 2009, 04:36:00 PM Do it, have fun and good luck :)
Title: Re: Deal or No Deal? Post by: GreekStein on February 10, 2009, 04:50:56 PM It's only bad the way it's misleading. Other than that £5 is about as small as you're going to get in terms of juice, regardless of the buy in for anything that's dealer dealt.
Even DTD charge £5 for their £25 I believe. Not unreasonable when you think the best card room in the country does similar. Title: Re: Deal or No Deal? Post by: bolt pp on February 10, 2009, 04:57:28 PM seems fair enough tbh
Title: Re: Deal or No Deal? Post by: Laxie on February 10, 2009, 04:57:51 PM In hindsight, I suppose I can see the point in the fee. Having to drag the info out of them was the painful part. rotflmfao
Bar a disaster with the weather in the next hour or two, I'm deffo going. Much rather play the €25 than play a €50+ comp my first time there. We'll see how it goes and report back after. Title: Re: Deal or No Deal? Post by: Rod Paradise on February 10, 2009, 05:27:37 PM So tempted to abuse Mod's powers and add a 'Get in the kitchen where you belong woman!!' to the poll. Reckon the beer from Timmy would just about alleviate the pain from the smack from Laxie ;D
Title: Re: Deal or No Deal? Post by: Royal Flush on February 10, 2009, 05:51:50 PM People really do ask for a lot don't they!!
Fiver for dealers, happy days. Title: Re: Deal or No Deal? Post by: Ironside on February 10, 2009, 05:57:14 PM as its a poker room and not a casino they have to make money for expenses somehow so you have to suck up the fees
of course if it was a 200 game and they wanted 50 in fees i would object Title: Re: Deal or No Deal? Post by: mondatoo on February 10, 2009, 06:08:52 PM Grosvenor charges 5.50reg on a 20£ game with no dealers or nowt,this is ok imo
Title: Re: Deal or No Deal? Post by: Girgy85 on February 10, 2009, 06:13:18 PM Grosvenor charges 5.50reg on a 20£ game with no dealers or nowt,this is ok imo Was just about to bring this up!! G casino blackpool end of month jobbie i played the £25 freezeout after the main event and they charged £5.50 juice with no dealers!! Title: Re: Deal or No Deal? Post by: Ironside on February 10, 2009, 06:30:34 PM you guys at the grovenors need to vote with you feet
the G in aberdeen had lowered its fees back to 10% as its rival never charges more than 10% Title: Re: Deal or No Deal? Post by: mondatoo on February 10, 2009, 06:40:56 PM you guys at the grovenors need to vote with you feet the G in aberdeen had lowered its fees back to 10% as its rival never charges more than 10% This was just 20+5.50 and i already have voted with me feet not coz am that bothered bout reg fees but more coz the comps are shit tbh Title: Re: Deal or No Deal? Post by: Ironside on February 10, 2009, 06:48:34 PM well 20 + 5.50 for a casino is too much
unless they go out of there way for poker players like playing untill comp is finished rather than finishing an hour before the casino so the players can donk the money off on roulette. but casinos use poker to get footfall so will never pay more than 10% for a casino comp Title: Re: Deal or No Deal? Post by: MC on February 10, 2009, 07:09:33 PM People have to stop thinking of juice in terms of % of buy-in for low-buy in comps. I think a €5 reg fee is perfectly reasonable for any dealer dealt comp ^^Agreed... Title: Re: Deal or No Deal? Post by: Laxie on February 11, 2009, 12:17:19 AM Well, I went. I played. 9 started (including 3 staff to help make up the table) and top 2 got paid. I bubbled. rotflmfao
Too worn out right now to explain the set up, but will likely go back. Follow up post tomorrow. |