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Title: Cash hand
Post by: Graham C on February 10, 2009, 08:52:03 PM
Not much info on villain except playing 54/45 over 16 hands

Full Tilt Poker Game #10551673222: Table Spire (6 max) - $0.10/$0.25 - No Limit Hold'em - 15:49:35 ET - 2009/02/10
Seat 1: SDK74 ($22.10)
Seat 2: 4_everrr ($25)
Seat 3: nugishumini ($28.20)
Seat 4: msgarison ($25)
Seat 5: Rastus83 ($18.15)
Seat 6: Bokeh ($25.95)
Rastus83 posts the small blind of $0.10
Bokeh posts the big blind of $0.25
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Bokeh [Qs Kh]
SDK74 folds
4_everrr folds
nugishumini folds
SDK74 stands up
msgarison raises to $1
Rastus83 folds
Bokeh calls $0.75
*** FLOP *** [Js Qc 2s]
Bokeh bets $1.25
msgarison calls $1.25
*** TURN *** [Js Qc 2s] [9h]
Bokeh bets $2.50
msgarison calls $2.50
*** RIVER *** [Js Qc 2s 9h] [8h]
Bokeh checks
msgarison has 15 seconds left to act
msgarison bets $10
Bokeh has 15 seconds left to act
Bokeh ???


Title: Re: Cash hand
Post by: GreekStein on February 10, 2009, 09:13:58 PM
Bet more on turn imo.

I can't see why he he doesn't raise at any point if he has you beat before the river. Kinda looks like a missed draw, possibly an AK type hand. Worrying aspect is A1O type hand that got there or a flush draw that missed but includes a 10.

Sorry to hi-jack slightly - but in this sort of instance where I'm just flatting a raise pre I don't normally lead unless I have a set etc and I'm inducing a raise. I like check-raising or check calling the flop (to see what they do on turn) and find this helps to know where opponent is at and value-bet/bluff accordingly. Is this bad/a leak or is silo's line better?


Title: Re: Cash hand
Post by: Newmanseye on February 10, 2009, 09:15:11 PM
he has played it like a draw tbh, better spots to get 40 big blinds in, I dinno, a call feels spewy.  

i'd like to see what the "pro's" say tbh


Title: Re: Cash hand
Post by: bolt pp on February 10, 2009, 09:18:09 PM
Sorry to hi-jack slightly - but in this sort of instance where I'm just flatting a raise pre I don't normally lead unless I have a set etc and I'm inducing a raise. I like check-raising or check calling the flop (to see what they do on turn) and find this helps to know where opponent is at and value-bet/bluff accordingly. Is this bad/a leak or is silo's line better?

this, i def prefer the check call here.

as for the hand, you can beat a bluff and you dont want to be doing too much guessing at this level, i'm happy to fold.


Title: Re: Cash hand
Post by: MC on February 10, 2009, 09:39:36 PM
Standard call here imo. Not obvious that he has a ten. 8 of spades and you'd have a case for passing but he could just be betting cos you checked, and the $10 doesn't overly look like he wants you to call, although admittedly some players would make this bet with a ten. If he has a ten, make a note.

Check raise flop perhaps?


Title: Re: Cash hand
Post by: bolt pp on February 10, 2009, 09:40:42 PM
Standard call here imo. Not obvious that he has a ten. 8 of spades and you'd have a case for passing but he could just be betting cos you checked...

Check raise flop perhaps?

building a big pot OOP with 1 pair at micro limits is not a good idea


Title: Re: Cash hand
Post by: MC on February 10, 2009, 09:42:35 PM
Standard call here imo. Not obvious that he has a ten. 8 of spades and you'd have a case for passing but he could just be betting cos you checked...

Check raise flop perhaps?

building a big pot OOP with 1 pair at micro limits is not a good idea

Agree generally, but this guy has been playing fast recently, is probs c-betting any flop, against him it looks like we have a big hand...


Title: Re: Cash hand
Post by: AlexMartin on February 11, 2009, 07:28:30 PM
Sorry to hi-jack slightly - but in this sort of instance where I'm just flatting a raise pre I don't normally lead unless I have a set etc and I'm inducing a raise. I like check-raising or check calling the flop (to see what they do on turn) and find this helps to know where opponent is at and value-bet/bluff accordingly. Is this bad/a leak or is silo's line better?

this, i def prefer the check call RAISE here.

as for the hand, you can beat a bluff and you dont want to be doing too much guessing at this level, i'm happy to fold.


Title: Re: Cash hand
Post by: bolt pp on February 11, 2009, 07:39:55 PM
Sorry to hi-jack slightly - but in this sort of instance where I'm just flatting a raise pre I don't normally lead unless I have a set etc and I'm inducing a raise. I like check-raising or check calling the flop (to see what they do on turn) and find this helps to know where opponent is at and value-bet/bluff accordingly. Is this bad/a leak or is silo's line better?

this, i def prefer the check call RAISE here.

as for the hand, you can beat a bluff and you dont want to be doing too much guessing at this level, i'm happy to fold.

i'm turned around on the subject, god says its a check/raise then its a check raise.

we happy to play for stacks?



Title: Re: Cash hand
Post by: mondatoo on February 11, 2009, 07:54:38 PM
Raise pre since oop

I didn't mind your line on the flop

Turn i check call for pot control

Again c/c river as to many 2pr/Tx combos in his range


Title: Re: Cash hand
Post by: gribbo on February 12, 2009, 06:07:38 PM
I would re-pop this preflop, especially against a button raise and lead flop and turn to t get value, im thinkin you have been fished with a J10/Q10 hand here, esp with the big river bet!


Title: Re: Cash hand
Post by: Graham C on February 12, 2009, 09:36:17 PM
Close, I called and was fished by TT.

I skinted him later though, got my own back with 88 v AK on a 8KK flop

TY for the replies :)