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Staking Proposal

This is a little smaller than the last staking request i put up on Blonde but hopefully it can be somewhere close in terms of success. This will be a long term grind and i'm proposing to play a mixture of NLH/PLO mtts and NLH/PLO STTs/HUs. The majority will be MTTs but the others can help to maintain the bankroll if i hit a lean period in the MTTs.

I have a fair bit of past experience playing MTTs on I Poker with good success although i'm not aware of a tracking site however this is my OPR for Pokerstars:

http://www.officialpokerrankings.com/pokerstars/riverdave/poker/results/ACE8AAB0400846C49503112B60F45B03.html?t=2

I also had a period a while back of grinding mainly HU sit and go's on I Poker if you search riverdave79 on sharkscope which is my Blue Sq account it shows a decent ROI and good profit.

While i'm not playing live which isn't a great deal at the moment i will be able to put in a lot of volume i usually 4 table for 8+ hours a day.

The stake will cover all my action on Blonde within the bankroll rules i'm going to detail below. If for any reason i went outside these rules without stakers permission then it would be down to me. I'm doing this to give myself as much discipline as possible.

I'm looking for $2000 to kick this off which will be available in 10% blocks of $200 or 5% for $100.

I propose a maximum 5% exposure to the bankroll per MTT and 3% per STT/HU. This is a maximum my average stake is likely to be significantly lower. Satellites to a bigger MTT can be played but the total investment must stay within the %'s stated above.
If the bankroll were to drop below $1000 i would propose all exposures drop to 3%.

No cash games are to be played, i would like to do something similar for cash PLO but after i've made a success of this maybe as a seperate stake with profits from this one (hopefully!)

The stake will be 50/50 on winnings paid at the end of every month with first payment being end of March. At the end of each month every staker will have the right to their profit assuming the stake is in profit and to continue or withdraw from the stake. If the stake is not in profit and they wish to withdraw they will receive the amount corresponding to their % share of the whole bankroll. (eg Bankroll $1500 10% share = $150)

I hope this will sell out asap and we can commence as soon as it goes. Transfers on Blonde are preferred nickname MonopolyMoney69 email address is in my Blonde profile. Stars $ (riverdave) & Full  (http://blondepoker.com/index.php?q=node/12206)Tilt (http://blondepoker.com/index.php?q=node/12206) $ (riverdave69) accepted too.

I will most likely use this thread on a daily basis as a rail to keep everyone updated as to how it's going unless i think of a better way of doing it.

If anyone has any questions or comments please feel free to add to the thread or PM me direct.


Taken so far:

5% Anon ($ xfer recd)
15% Bongo ($ xfer recd)
10% TheChipPrince ($ xfer recd)
5% Robert HM ($ xfer recd)
5% Silo Graham ($ xfer recd)
5% MC ($ xfer recd)
10% gatso ($ xfer recd)
10% Eck ($ xfer recd)
10% byronkincaid ($ xfer recd)
15% jakally ($ xfer recd)
10% Wardonkey ($ xfer recd)

100% reserved 100% paid

I'll have 5%

can I ask, and please correct me if i'm wrong, but how come you need staking?  is it purely a discipline thing rather than a money issue as $2k seems quite a low amount considering what you've won in the past?

PS.  10% please...

5% please

Kev!!!!!

"Your account doesn't have transfer privileges, contact customer support" FML

Please work your magic Mr Colchester.

Actually can I have another 10% please?

Just noticed I have some affiliate dollars at full tilt, may as well let you spin them up  :D

5% please

Fair question and to be honest it is a money issue. I need the discipline i've laid down in the stake to play at the same constant stakes for a while and grind. $2k isn't that low it's difficult to judge demand prior and when i looked at the regular tourney schedule on blonde and came up with the bankroll rules it seemed like an appropriate figure. I hope i can make a roaring success of it and put up bigger/include other things in the future. Also not done enough to help Blonde in the past as a regular poster and peruser so hope it takes care of that at the same time.

I'll take 5% please...

Great stuff guys 45% gone so far in first hour! If you can deal with the transfers maybe i can start this thing today/tomorrow.

I will transfer later, $200 on blonde to 'MonopolyMoney69'...

Sent via Tilt from Graham0573

Good luck

Live support will it in 5mins for you Robert, easy...

Yes please as many Blonde xfers as possible please, although hopefully i can find a swapee for the rest, i can Neteller across as a last resort.

10% please dave

Kev > ipoker live support

"5" Mins > 2 PMs

He's on the case now. BriefBL

Did one to Asa this morning, took about 90 seconds...

1. It makes Kev earn his keep
2. Helps him feel wanted
3. Keeps him out of Jane's hair for a couple of minutes.

3 valid points...

10% please tyvm

Sent.  Please confirm you've received, cheers...

Well i received £135.38 but when i go to a tourney buyin screen it tells me this is only $196.20. Need to use actual Blonde rates rather than anywhere else if that's whats happened.

10% plz

will do FT now if that OK?

Yes thanks thats great byron.

shipped $300 on tilt (bongomatic)

shipped $200 on FT (ulm8Gotcha)

received both cheers

Umm, I requested them to send $200, not the '£' amount, so not sure whats happened there!

10% please.

Its because numpty Dave has his account in STERLING, so you lose a few bob in exchanges.


Not sure of a way round it tbh ... am making enquiries

Yeah same happened with another xfer i received not your fault. As Kev explains my Blonde is in £ which means it's a few $ short. Me and Kev just working out whether i need a new blonde account in $ or we can get by. Don't want it to complicate the rail and paying any dividends.

RobHM & Eck transfers have both been done.

Its ok Kev, 'Vince' has sorted me out...  Have sent another $3.80 dave... :)

Dave,

If there's enough left, I will take 15%.

Cheers.

Shipped $100 on Stars Dave (from Epitomised)

Thanks it's yours let me know where you want to xfer.

Just 10% left folks.

Cough!

I can transfer on blonde...

Ta muchly

Whoops! Yes please.

Pending 1 or 2 transfers its all sold folks. Thanks everyone.

edit: see i'm too late, sigh.

Good luck to Dave and his backers.

Thanks first port of call if anyone goes down.

Can i be second port please!?

In dont think its been asked Dave, but presume the 'loyalty scheme' returns will also be included in the roll?

Will ship it on Blonde.

Kev, are you able to sort out for me?

Cheers.

Shipped.

I sent $205, because my account is in £ also. If there's a surplus you can spend it on booze and hookers.

Good luck

Jakallys transfer done.

Sure

Had a PM earlier from a staker in which i stated i didn't think this would amount to much as i'm mainly intending to play MTTs. However i would certainly add it in if the stake were in negative territory. Is that fair?

yep, i think so

with the balance of games as stated in op then yeah

if at some point it switches so you're playing mostly stt/hu then rb becomes more of a factor and could be looked at but I'm assuming that's not a route you're likely to take anyway

Ok all funds received and batterys recharged lets gogogogogogogo.

very best of luck to you sir!

You and Asa are the first ones I have staked, looking forward to the rides.

Good luck Dave.

Gutted I didnt see this earlier. This looks like an awesome opportunity for backers.

Starting Bankroll $2000 Current Bankroll $3042.30

Session 1

$4kgtd $11 150/497 cash $0 -$11
$5kgtd $22 65/259 cash $0 -$22
$7500gtd $55 2/156 cash $1248 +$1193
$25 D/S 81/137 cash $0 -$27.50
$5kgtd $7.70 rebuy total $35.70 143/319 cash $0 -$35.70
$16.50 PLO 31/34 cash $0 -$16.50
$7500gtd $33 82/181 cash $0 -$33
$52.50 PLO HU 1/2 cash $100 +$47.50
$52.50 PLO HU 2/2 cash $0 -$52.50

Session 1 total +$1042.30

nice treble up!!

Fk me, win this Dave, and everyone is freerolling GL GL .... JFDI !!

Bink!

Bigger bink!  ;D

Wiiii racing skills are way off today but binking seems ok.

LOL nice.

weeeeeeeeeeeeee ... keep it going Dave !!

mbsfn to be that cardrack!

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee HU

GL Dave

Pretty sick first session whichever way it goes now. This guy has been on monkey tilt in the chat all the way through the tourney although to be fair has seemed pretty reasonable, not going to let me play smallball from the button either.

UL heads up mate, but what a blinding start to the quest.


WELL PLAYED !!

Well done Dave.

Great start!

+1

 ;applause; ;applause; ;applause; ;applause; ;applause;

Oh My Goodness. Well played that man.

well binked that horse

Great start Dave ;applause;

I make that over 300% roi on day 1

hold at around that level please

^^lol

Nice start man, good work...

Starting Bankroll $2000 Current Bankroll $3503.20

Session 2

$6kgtd $33 185/201 cash $0 -$33
$52.50 PLO HU 2/2 cash $0 -$52.50
$52.50 PLO HU 2/2 cash $0 -$52.50
$52.50 PLO HU 1/2 cash $100 +$47.50
$52.50 PLO HU 1/2 cash $100 +$47.50
$10kgtd $11 526/1181 cash $0 -$11
$55 PLO 10/10 cash $0 -$55
$35kgtd $11 rebuy total $31 311/1369 cash $0 -$31
$4kgtd $16.50 19/300 cash $45 +$28.50
$5kgtd $7.70 rebuy total $28.70 117/301 cash $0 -$28.70
$16.50 PLO 22/48 cash $0 -$16.50
$7500gtd $33 68/239 cash $0 -$33
$2000gtd $16.50 67/179 cash $0 -$16.50
$3kgtd $11 rebuy total $31 2/160 cash $665.60 +$634.60
$52.50 PLO HU 1/2 cash $100 +$47.50
$52.50 PLO HU 1/2 cash $100 +$47.50
$52.50 PLO HU 1/2 cash $100 +$47.50
$52.50 PLO HU 2/2 cash $0 -$52.50
$52.50 PLO HU 2/2 cash $0 -$52.50
$52.50 PLO HU 1/2 cash $100 +$47.50
$52.50 PLO HU 2/2 cash $0 -$52.50

Session 2 Total +$460.90

Hmmmm need to work on my HU MTT game lol

Watching the $35k on and off, healthy stack, gl.

No slacking now Dave!  Top work...  :)

Awesome start sir.

 ;applause;

well I was expecting to be a multimillionaire by this point. pull your finger out dave ;)

Very impressive start man :)

Starting Bankroll $2000 Current Bankroll $7038.90

Session 3

$25kgtd $320 ($175 to the bankroll* 54.6875% of buyin) 2/77 cash $5000*0.546875=$2734.40 profit +$2559.40
$52.50 PLO HU 1/2 cash $100 +$47.50
$52.50 PLO HU 1/2 cash $100 +$47.50
$52.50 PLO HU 2/2 cash $0 -$52.50
$20kgtd $33 rebuy Total $123 226/299 cash $0 -$123
$11 PLO 15/78 cash $0 -$11
$5kgtd $22 187/327 cash $0 -$22
$7500 $55 2/156 cash $1248 +$1193
$25 D/S 110/145 cash $0 -$27.50
$5kgtd $7.70 rebuy Total $42.70 157/349 cash $0 -$42.70
$7500gtd $33 57/291 cash $0 -$33

Session 3 Total +$3535.70

*as per 5% bankroll exposure rule

GL Dave.

How come the $320 is only $175 to the br?  I'm a bit confused

Good luck tonight :)

Because i included the rule in the staking plan that i would put no more than 5% of the bankroll into play for any 1 MTT (3% for STTs) to safeguard the bankroll. 5% of $3500 is $175 so i've got to cover the rest.

Last 2 tables of the $320 with average chips. mbsfn 2b Moorman

Watching, Moorman can't lose a race, even if he tried. How the fk can you call an all in with A4, on his previous table, seeming to know you have two overs.. and hitting both.

Fair enough, tbh, I wouldn't have objected to you playing it anyway!  Hope the last two go well for you.

OMG they just killed Kenny Moorman

I think its going to haunt me not seeing this in enough time to buy a piece!

Good luck anyway dave! Win it all

GL Dave

Win it all Dave, watching, gl...

Have it in the corner of the screen, nice bit of laddering.

6/6 at the break, 1.5k locked up...

5/5

I wish I was this good!

This

This is easy straight out of the Channing school of overshoving!!

Much tougher stack to play now 2/5

Who needs AA when you have the mighty Q9. House ftw!

Q9>>>>>>>>>>>>AA

No push/fold now Dave, thinking required!

It's a bastard when you have to work for your money :)

I think Mr AA no good has it in for you :D

What name does Moorman play under? 

1moortime

Wiiiii  top 10 in both of the $7500 double stacks too.

Oh my!!!

Saw you were going well but didn't want to bok things :D 

please let me play like this next time I hit the tables ;pokergods;

Have to sleep, good luck Dave :)

wiiiiii CL

Lol at T3, so sick

iwwil

Been railing, nice luddddddderage. Now cl. win it all.

Just 3 times!!

puke soxy just fked me tried to fade a 13 outer for 2/3rds the chips in play without success.

2/3!  $3,125 locked up...

HU

gl gl gl

+1, 3rd time lucky HU.

Riverdave may just be the greatest...  99 v 88... KQ8      2        9!!!

and standing 3rd in one of the $7.5ks

GG Sir

AA no match for J7 spades...  5K tho, n1...

can we chop hu next time?

wp sir, yet another sweet result

so sick, RD'S smacking it!!!!!!!!!

nice score sir.

wp backers so far.

2/10 in the $7.5k. $2106 ftw, $156 locked up.

I wish Irish Dennis had waited before selling his shares. If this gets any better I could have bought them myself.

If i lose heads up in this one i'm quitting poker lol.

HU lol

GG poker gg stake i quit.

ffs AJ>KK

gg wp.

$1248 better than a kick in the teeth

Aces and Kings no good HU for the loot at least they were winning this time.

maybe you could bring on a substitute for hu.

wp yet again

the forum is buzzing!!!!!

wp m8, ul, still an excellent start!

So how many of the stakers are up for spinning the whole profit up in the $5k on Full Tilt tonight? Surely can't fail to get 2nd.....

looooool, nice start

And yeh you should go for it imo! lol

how soon until I can pay the mortgage off?

big ups riverdave!

Amazing results Dave, great start :)

What a great start for both Dave and the backers, what a shame I missed the boat then again I'm the bok that gets grimmed in stakings lol.

Incredible lol, you're the man Dave!

Dave you get my text?

Night off yesterday yes they do actually exist and slept through the good comps today. Back to it Monday afternoon. Looks like i'm off to Broadway&Walsall so i may be playing an earlier schedule for a couple of weeks.

As far as I am concerned, play the games you like best, when you can and when you feel at your best. However $30k this week would be cool :)

Starting Bankroll $2000 Current Bankroll $7558.40

Session 4

$4kgtd $16.50 104/293 cash $0 -$16.50
$7500gtd $33 4/235 cash $600 +$567
$3kgtd $11 rebuy Total $31 37/150 cash $0 -$31

Session 4 Total +$519.50

Awesome Dave, c u walsall

I think i may be running a little over expectation! Anyone know how to post or convert Ipoker HH's? I just bet a 99K flop with a middle pin str8 flush draw got called and made it to get on against quad 9s on the turn and river!

Can't do the convert thing, I usually copy and paste from the chat box.

In the above case your final comment would be something like this:
MM69: You ******* ****!!

My standard line tonight. Every time I been knocked tonight either 2 outers or runner runner...lol

Not sure you understood correctly it was a run good story i made the str8 flush.

Story of my life, misread.

Wiiiii another final obv! 4/5 if i don't win this i'm going to be haunted by passing ak from my blind to an utg raise and SB shove for virtually all my chips on the final.

What did they turn over?

4 sessions, up $5.5k.   

Not too shabby imo. 

Lol, +1

Starting Bankroll $2000 Current Bankroll $7630.80

Session 5

$7500gtd $55 131/140 cash $0 -$55
$7500gtd $33 145/234 cash $0 -$33
$3kgtd $11 rebuy Total $91 6/151 cash $251.40 +$160.40

Session 5 Total +$72.40

JJ pwned by 77 on a 568 flop for all the lolly this could be a very short first losing session.

Early doors still and it's not as if your having a bad run :)

89 suited and the SB had AQ obv first card K.

Yeah right.

A pathetic $72 profit on the 5th session.

I'm glad I was holiday and missed out on this stake. This terrible session would've had me demanding my money back!!!!!

I'll happily buy you out of your stake if Dave keeps disappointing you in this manner! :P

You can tell it's going well when somone offers to buy someones non stake.

Sandy

The ultimate in grimming could happen here, sell it EvilPie :D

Even a non stake in Dave at the moment looks like a good investment!

Srsly though, I'll buy anyone out who wants to sell at current share worth... don't all rush at once!

To you mate, half price. And at that I'm cutting my throat to be honest.

Tell you what, you can even keep the pathetic profit that it's made as a sweetener.

I can't say fairer than that.

ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..........................                         NO!


;)

lol

Starting Bankroll $2000 Current Bankroll $7568.30

Session 6

$15kgtd $27.50 rebuy Total $127.50 62/192 cash $0 -$127.50
$2500gtd PLO $11 rebuy Total $61 7/93 cash $125 +$64

Session 6 Total -$62.50

Afternoon sessions Dave?  In the PLO heads-up STT's, what sort of winrate do you expect?

I'm in a hotel in Birmingham just passing the afternoon before i play the Broadway main event tonight.

If i put some volume in on the small hu PLO's i'd hope to beat them for 5-6% after rake as a worst case. I beat the 100s on stars for 10% and the 200s for about 5%. You need to play a lot of them and there doesn't seem to be huge traffic.

gl tonight

Ok finally booked a losing session despite another final table.

I can live with you losing $62.50 once a week tbh

gl tonight

Whens the next session Sir?

Just arrived back from 2 weeks of live poker in The Midlands and a weekend in Barcelona and just settling down to next session.

Starting Bankroll $2000 Current Bankroll $7373.30

Session 7

$55 PLO 12/14 cash $0 -$55
$35kgtd $11 rebuy Total $31 262nd cash $0 -$31
$12500gtd $109 38th cash $0 -$109

Session 7 Total - $195

Welcome back, good luck.

what a strange question

look up 2 posts from your one. or 3 from this one

or 4 from this one...

Just interested so I can watch some of the tourneys.....

look 6 posts up from this one then. you may need to do this yesterday though

I was interested in the next session tbh.  Ive only just read the post late last night.  Bt hey better late than never   ;D

but when you first posted he was in the middle of a session

the way dave's doing it is he posts early on in a session and then keeps editing that post as he adds or finishes tourneys so you sometimes need to go to an old post to get up to date information.
I think I've explained that right

N1 tx...  Will keep an eye on it...

Starting Bankroll $2000 Current Bankroll $7246.30

Session 8

$55 PLO 2/16 cash $240 +$185
$35kgtd $11 rebuy total $71 272/1212 cash $0 -$71
$20kgtd $33 rebuy total $153 154/241 cash $0 -$153
$7500gtd $55 127/129 cash $0 -$55
$7500gtd $33 174/238 cash $0 -$33

Session 8 Total -$127

glglgl

I am playing a London GUKPT sat but can't include this on the bankroll as i'm already staked in these so it would really complicate matters, so that one is down to me.

The cursed run of 2nds continues......

Bad news when you're playing HU sngs.

Been a bit lazy on this lately mainly playing cash elsewhere and a bit live, will try and put in another solid 5 or 6 sessions before end of the month and dividend time.

ta

Played any more Dave?

 ;bump;

what are your plans with this now Dave?

Either Dave got bored winning money for other people or is still out looking for the Kellster dimez.

Spoke to Penly in London ... he will be back on the horse soon.

ooh, first payout's due isn't it. must be about a million dollars by now

Cough.

Maybe its time for a Blonde hall of grimmers lol.....in all honesty still kicking myself for missing the boat on the staking of Riverdave.

 ;sleep;

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6lY6DnXsSM.

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AJ0SkbPxAk

This is better imo

yoall had a great run!

lmao haven't seen that episode, +1

The next bit with the fake moustache is even better.

Ok the guys late, yes I wish he wasn't but I, personally, think it's a busy life style has got in the way here.

Yet has time to play over 30 mtts online this month, that is just on stars and tilt.

It's all Byron's fault...

http://www.xtranormal.com/xtranormal/episode.php?aid=100699&mid=20090219170342507

roflmfao


pure com

Haha, this is exactly what went through my head yesterday.

So com given recent developments.

Does no-one have his number that can just give him a ring and ask him to log on and explain what's happening?

Is we being grimmed again?

I'd highly doubt it tbh

We all know Dave has weaknesses, but we backed him anyway because we believed he has talent and integrity. Two weeks is too long, he is in danger of losing the latter.

If he's spunked the dosh then that's forgivable, but he needs to come on and tell us how he intends to make amends.

If he's still got our money then he needs to ship it ASAP.

why do you doubt it asa?
is it because he's a well known player?

i can name 5 well known pro's who have done far worse grimming. Not saying dave has spunked your money, but would bet 2/7 about it

I've got no money in Dave at all. Cos he's well known?? Nope, just a feeling. I may well be wrong, I just hope not.

DON'T PANICCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC!!

Starting Bankroll $2000 Ending Bankroll $7246.30 Total Profit $5246.30 Profit Share $2623.30

Amounts owed

5% Anon $132.16
15% Bongo $394.50
10% TheChipPrince $262.33
5% Robert HM $132.16
5% Silo Graham $132.16
5% MC $132.16
10% gatso $262.33
10% Eck $262.33
10% byronkincaid $262.33
15% jakally $394.50
10% Wardonkey $262.33

Please guys post or PM me your account name for transfer on Stars, if Stars is a problem i may be able to send elsewhere although it could take a bit longer. Once i've paid out these percentages i'll work out a plan going forward.

Welcome back!

I never had a doubt.  ;whistle;

The amounts shown are in addition to the original stake. I assume you will be returning that as well?

Or, as originally suggested going to have a further bash.

Are you bored with winning money for others on blonde?

Dave, I would like my stake back as well please. TBH it's better for you to have me out of it because you presumably don't need someone ranting and raving everytime you are 5 minutes late with payment. Your other stakers seem to have a lot more patience than me.

If you had lost all the money playing the agreed games I wouldn't have given a shit but the total lack of communication pissed me right off. I expect I am giving up a ton of money however it is best for both of us if I pull out now.

ByronKincaid on Stars, and I will delete the "grimmer" post on your well and anything else you want me to when you've shipped the cash

Best wishes for the future

I'm just leaving work i'll answer this when i get home.

Weeee,

Graham0573 on Stars please :)

P.S. Welcome back
P.P.S. Nice going

I'll take Byrons % if it's going :P

I'll take any leftover that is going Dave. Still one of the best staking opportunities on here imo, and someone whose game I rate highly, and someone I know and trust

I should tell you both that I had already PM'd OP  ;whistle;

I sent a PM before anyone else.

Now if you excuse me, I have some "maintenance" to do on the forum database...  ;whistle;

OI, I HAD already sent PM, now put that spanner down and move away from the bonnet.

no no no lads I definitely asked first.

The Dean even said so in one of his articles

This shocked me, you working that is :)

If any % become available can I go on the (long) waiting list.

just incase :P

No problem that's your perogative apologies for the lack of play in the latter stages in all honesty it was down to me going on a huge cash run on Stars and the tourneys became less appealing, should of sorted payment sooner couple of long live tourneys this month and some life issues kept me away from blonde.

I'm happy to stay in for the rest of this month if you want to carry on with it.

I assumed you had lost interest tbh.

Fair points, even if i'd spunked all the dough its not like i was going to grim i can hardly disappear on the uk poker scene.

Hi Dave, PM sent.

Happy to carry on as long as you want Dave. I assumed you'd lost interest too.

Just waiting to hear from one more person then i think everything is set to go. I can ship all the dividends and stakes back to the guys pulling out and add in the new stakers, then put some volume in!

Amounts owed

5% Anon $132.16 (Paid Stars)
15% Bongo $394.50 (Paid FT)
10% TheChipPrince $262.33 (To be paid on Blonde and stakeback return)
5% Robert HM $132.16 (Paid in part trade for increasing to 15%)
5% Silo Graham $132.16 (Paid Stars)
5% MC $132.16 (Paid Stars)
10% gatso $262.33 (Paid Stars)
10% Eck $262.33 (Paid Stars)
10% byronkincaid $262.33 (Paid Stars and $200 stakeback)
15% jakally $394.50 (Paid Stars)
10% Wardonkey $262.33 (Paid Stars)

Your account is in £, mine is in $, I have PMd Kev asking him to arrange a transfer.

looks good dave. when are you shipping profits?

Dosh received, ta muchly.

FREEROLLIN'!!!

all received, cheers dave

Same here, many thanks :)

Cheers Dave Money recieved.

Needless to say I am in if you are giving it another bash.

New Shareholder Breakdown

5% Anon
15% Bongo
10% GreekStein
15% Robert HM
5% Silo Graham
5% MC
10% gatso
10% Eck
15% jakally
10% Wardonkey

Ready to go again with $2000 starting bankroll same rules/games as before. May play EqualChance/Gutshot PLO tonight but will get cracking at some point over the weekend.

Nice one dave, good luck second time around!

Sorry for no play yet guys girlfriend collapsed and had to go into hospital sunday night just had no time at all and to be honest poker not at forefront of my mind. I might get a chance later today/tomorrow.

Hope she gets well soon and it's nothing too serious.

+1
Poker comes second at times like this. Wait until you are in the right frame of mind.

nice meeting you on saturday dave.

all the best to your girlfriend.

Thanks guys. Bongo i've just sent your payment on FT now i have some $ there, just confirm when you've received.

How's the Missus?

All received, cheers chap. :)up

Out of hospital now but it's a long term illness with lots of outpatient treatment required, the collapse was just a symptom of the real problem.

Sorry to hear that Dave, hope it's treatable/manageable. Best wishes to you and your gf...

Starting Bankroll $2000 Current Bankroll $1923

Session 1

$5kgtd $22 99/325 cash $0 -$22
$7500gtd $55 86/163 cash $0 -$55

Session 1 Total -$77

Hi Dave,

Will you be playing at all now you have the blackbelt trial for a month?

Yeah i certainly plan to 6 hours a day is nothing in comparison to my normal routine so if i can get that out the way early and play evening tourneys or vice versa i will.

not the response i expected ....animal!

One issue i have to deal with of course is that you can only have 1 I-Poker client open at any time, MTT action isn't covered by Black Belt Grading so i will at times have to play the MTTs on my Boyles account. Unfortunately will mean Blonde miss out on a small portion of the rake but there isn't a lot i can do about that. I'm going to try it out tonight this will only be MTT while on this account because STT/HU is covered by BlackBelt.

Starting Bankroll $1923 Current Bankroll $1813

Session 2

$5kgtd $22 129/294 cash $0 -$22
$7500gtd $55 117/48 cash $0 -$55
$7500gtd $33 118/218 cash $0 -$33

Session 2 Total -$110

Though I was pleased you were on blonde, right now I don't care where you play the MTTs, it's not a lot of rack after all.

I don't see it being necessary every day just days when i've not got my hours with BB done before the good tourneys start. I'll be sure to post at the start of the session which account i'm on etc.

rob, due to your policy of only staking players on blonde I'm happy to take your share of any profits. you've got to stick to your principles

Now where did I express this policy?

http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=40411.msg912691;topicseen#msg912691

just ship it all to me dave

FML

Don't want to cause any problems but figured if Robert was ok with it everyone else would be, it's real short term anyway.

It's OK, ignore memory king.

no problems here dave. I just want to find a loophole allowing me to legally steal money from rob

I find divorcing me is usually the best way.

I'm going for custody of the dog

Starting Bankroll $1813 Current Bankroll $1787.50

Session 3

$12500gtd $5.50 rebuy Total $25.50 708/1235 cash $0 -$25.50

Session 3 Total -$25.50

any movements dave?

are you likely to play at all after blackbelt finishes or is it straight to vegas for the long haul?

Haven't played since last update due to time and not being able to use Boyles/BBP aacount for MTTs.
Planning to get back on it when grading finishes.
I currently have no plans of going to Vegas.

Am thinking of taking a few days off from online poker post grading and the disappointment, possibly at DTD.

Got over your disappointment yet Dave?

Last play was April 30th.

What's goin on Dave?

I appreciate you might have other things on your mind atm but if so I wouldn't mind my stake back.

Ok I'm gonna be kinda blunt now....

I want my money transferred back to me as soon as possible. If Dave can't even be decent enough to check the thread and update us on what is going on then I'd rather have the money in my own bank or poker account doing nothing.

I'm sure someone who reads this will know Dave as he appears not to have seen this thread in the last 3 weeks so if someone can give him a ring as I don't really want to get his phone number and remind him.

Ok just been in contact with Dave. Only very briefly but he's been really busy lately it seems with personal things and kinda burnt out from poker through Blackbelt and the let down of it.

He should be playing soon and will post on here in the next 48 hours.

Thanks for that.

No real update spending a lot of time job hunting at the moment will look to get back into a smaller volume of play asap.

New Shareholder Breakdown

5% Me
15% Bongo
10% GreekStein
15% Robert HM
5% Silo Graham
5% MC
10% gatso
10% Eck
15% jakally
10% Wardonkey

Current Bankroll $1787.50

Going to play a little today.

Starting Bankroll $1787.50 Current Bankroll $1700.50

Session 4

$7500gtd $5.50 rebuy Total $15.50 263/629 cash $0 -$15.50
$4000gtd $16.50 92/310 cash $0 -$16.50
$55 PLO 8/16 cash $0 -$55

Session 4 Total -$87

Good luck :)

wp again graham. please stop bokking people who are playing with my money

Lol,

bok #2: g'luck Dave!

I do it on purpose you know :)

Starting Bankroll $1700.50 Current Bankroll $1638.00

Session 5

$5000gtd $11 rebuy Total $31 69/207 cash $0 -$31
$3500gtd $11 65/355 cash $0 -$11
$7500gtd $5.50 rebuy Total $20.50 134/503 cash $0 -$20.50


Session 5 Total -$62.50

FFS sure am running good.

Just lost a pot for top 10 in the rebuy with 134 left check raise allin K108 flop with AK, QQ obv snaps and binks runner J9.

Starting Bankroll $1638.00 Current Bankroll $1594.00

Session 6

$6000gtd $33 123/216 cash $0 -$33
$10000gtd $11 383/1165 cash $0 -$11

Session 6 Total -$44

gogogogogogogo imo

I agree with gatso.

Please let silo be offline until the session is over!  ;pokergods;

Starting Bankroll $1594.00 Current Bankroll $1510.00

Session 7

$5000gtd $33 173/220 cash $0 -$33
$3000gtd $11 rebuy Total $51 29/167 cash $0 -$51

Session 7 Total -$84

Starting Bankroll $1510.00 Current Bankroll $1512.00

Session 8

$7500gtd $55 17/150 cash $90 +$35
$5000gtd $33 95/184 cash $0 -$33

Session 8 Total +$2

New Shareholder Breakdown

20% Me
15% Bongo
10% GreekStein
5% Silo Graham
5% MC
10% gatso
10% Eck
15% jakally
10% Wardonkey

Constant Riekenberg just contacted me to ask if he could buy 65% so if i don't ship something soon you know why.

lol, I've got 30% of you he can have as well if you sell

Ugly beat in the $33 for massive chips K45r flop i continuation with kj button flats on 6 turn i shove for 1 1/2x pot and they donk off with 67 obv 7 on the river.

Lol!

Starting Bankroll $1512.00 Current Bankroll $1424.00

Session 9

$7500gtd $55 52/151 cash $0 -$55
$5000gtd $33 161/186 cash $0 -$33

Session 9 Total -$88

Starting Bankroll $1424.00 Current Bankroll $1388.50

Session 10

$7500gtd $5.50 rebuy Total $35.50 210/544 cash $0 -$35.50

Session 10 Total -$35.50

New Shareholder Breakdown

30% Me
15% Bongo
5% Silo Graham
5% MC
10% gatso
10% Eck
15% jakally
10% Wardonkey

Current Bankroll $1388.50

Planning to put some play in this week possibly tonight. Blonde E/C sat will be on my own dime to avoid any probs if i ship a seat.

Good to see you back, good luck  :)

Starting Bankroll $1388.50 Current Bankroll $2804.80

Session 11

$5000gtd $33 1/183 cash $1482.30 +$1449.30
$3000gtd $11 rebuy Total $31 58/159 cash $0 -$33

Session 11 Total +$1416.30

Wiiiiii finally booked a win in this thread after sooooooo many 2nds.

Top result Dave. WP.

 :)up

Nice one :)

Bink!  ;applause;

fantastic stuff dave, wpwp

Any news?

Just to let you all know where I am with this.

I pulled out of the staking after the first phase of sorts, I requested to be pulled out, that was back on April 16th.  Dave said no problem, he just had to move some funds around and I would be paid my stake + relevant profit. I have not seen a penny since.

I have exchanged a tonne of PM's with River grimmerdave promising to pass me the money over on Stars, 'as he did not have money on blonde at the time', strange you'd think seen as the staking was on blonde but hey ho. I gave him the benefit of the doubt.

I opened a Stars account to be paid, then he didn't have funds on Stars, strange conincidence again.  I gave him the benefit of the doubt.

Then several PM's again, putting me off I guess, promising funds etc.

Then last month I receive this exact PM

''Ok since last message things have gone a lot better for me so i can now offer you payment on either blonde or stars which is your preference? Please let me know asap before anything goes tits up!''

3 PM's and a month later I have had no reply.

I'm not after sympathy, I know its my money and my risk etc, Just a warning for all stakers still in, don't expect any money back, he's spanked it.

surprised there is no reaction to this, thats a pretty blatant grim with admission spunkage.

What do you want us to say, think it was clear about 3 months ago that Grimmerdave wasn't quite on the level. I am just sorry that someone like Chipprince might have done his money.

oh dear...is riverdave still around on here or has he joined fergus8 and the 'others'?

He last was here 4.19pm today

I like Dave.

He is however a degenerate gambler, i don't mean that in the way we all say it jokingly, he is a proper animal when it comes to money and gambling. That all being said though i expect everyone to get paid back at some time in the future, everyone knows what he is like but a grimmer he is not, he intends to pay back of that i am sure.

Yours Sincerely,

Someone who is owed from a Penly stake.

obv i dont know him, deleted by post as it didnt really have a pupose other than to ask what was going on and in fairness it has nothing to do with me.

Yeah to echo this Dave isn't a grimmer. He just can't manage a roll and has spin ups and downs like not many people. He's never far from a result and I'm sure everyone will get paid as soon as he gets a result

Ok i'm sorry guys i can confirm the rumours i have some time ago got staking money mixed in with other poker/life money and there is at the moment no stake fund. I've never kept the majority of the stake on the blonde site as most have paid elsewhere or required payment elsewhere. As stated above im not a grimmer in the true sense of the word in that everyone will get paid as funds allow. I guess best thing to do is end the stake and work out what everyone is owed and pay everyone back at the same rate. I'll take feedback on that though.
Barring any instant miracles it could take a fair while as my only action at the moment is with backers where i have a reasonable size makeup to payoff first.
Once again sorry guys. Flame away.

/words fail

money back asap please.

I'm sure you'll confirm that a sizeable proportion of that debt was paid off when funds allowed some time ago just to reassure stakers here they will get paid at some point in time.
Please ship WCOOP main event so i can grim the rest with clear conscience kthx.

I'm not gonna flame man, I think the plan to end it now and work out how much you owe is best right now though. I'm sure you'll pay us back when you can.

If that's the general consensus over the weekend i'll do the figures on Monday and post it up and then this just turns into a payback thread as they call them on other staking forums.

Yeah you made a payment when you could, the next time the penly spinup bus is rolling again i will dip in for more.

Honestly guys he will pay back, plz dont burn him at the stake (geddit)

Sorry Flsuhy.  Normally I agree with you and in fact, give you more credit than most.  I've no gains or losses on this one and therefore no business saying anything...but ye all know me well enough - not one to keep me mouth shut. 

I stake every chance I get on blonde.  From day one this just didn't sit well.  I'd much rather average Joe says 'I'm not doing too bad so give us a chance' over a guy who is supposedly rolling it in and claims to be winning who says 'I'd like stakers.'

2 + 2 = 4 in my world.

+ 1

Fine with me.

Fair few wrong assumptions in there i stated on page 1 i was far from rolling it in or rolling in it whichever you meant, and as for winning well i have returned profit of around $5200 to stakers already and will be over $6000 when i get it cleared up. Agree with first half of your statement.

Glad you're getting it sorted.

I knew there was risks as Dave is known for spin ups etc and semi-subconciously written this off so not too bothered as i didn't think he was the grimmer type.

so yeah return whatever i am due when you can Dave cheers.

probably nothing to do with me but how is this any diff to whats happened on blonde before? chip prince must be seething

Dunno but we will see if Dave is good for it as he has said he will sort everyone out.

One difference is he hasn't tried to ridicule everyone on the forum afterwards like the little piece of dirt that is Fergus. Still looking forward to running across his path one day and getting my stake back tbh.

fair dos

In fairness Eck, I've been waiting over 5 months for ANY payment, 16th April I have a PM from.  He said he pay the rest of you from yesterday.

In the highly doubtful event he has the decency to pay back, I can only presume I am first in the queue.

Fair do's

I don't mean that in any disrespectful way to the other stakers btw if thats how it came across...

Whats the difference here?  Fergus was a degen gambler too and when he did the money you were one of the 1st people in there calling him a thief and a grimmer despite him coming back, admitting it and saying he would pay everyone back. Even then, yourself  and others still gave him a hard time before he got banned.

Eck, if you look at the Fergus thread, he came back and admitted he had lost it and would pay back.  He was then hammered with abuse from some of the stakers and some people that had nothing to do with it who had all made their mind up before Fergus had come back on to confess.

Im sure nobody would take it well if they f'ed up on that kind of level and got that sort of reaction from everyone, clear difference from the reaction shown on this thread.

He did actually pay some people back when he had some money.

1 rule for some, another rule for others and I know this isnt the only forum grimming that is being swept aside as "ack he's a nice guy and Im sure he'll pay it back when he can"

Jees let it lie. He's gone.

Fergus is dead? No way!

This
Just because Dave has been all cooey wooey (as Tikay would put it) about it, doesn't change what a ***** he's been about the whole thing. Until it's all paid up grimmer is the word that fits imho

fegus was a troll on the forum who after grimming people was trolling to get banned

dave has spent money that wasnt his in a private arrangement in which blonde doesnt have a say it

to repeat fergus wasnt banned for grimming rather for being a prize pratt

i do hope dave can sort this out soon rather than later

I didnt say he was banned for grimming and Im not here to try to make a case for him to be unbanned.  Im pointing out the ridiculous double standard just because some more people know Dave personally.  It was the same situation, everyone is practically giving the grimmer in this thread a cuddle and telling him it will be ok while in the Fergus thread they personally attacked him (Which caused his reaction imo)

I didn't abuse Fergus, go back through the thread and check if you like. However he has at no time ever made an effort to repay what he took from me so from that stance my view of him is spot on imo.


If Dave subsequently makes no effort to repay the money then my opinion of him will be similar to that of Fergus. We shall see....

Im sorry Dave and Imma let you finish.....but FERGUS had one of the best grimmings of ALL TIME!!!!

i kind of agree with bobba here, double standards

Could it not be the case that people have learnt from the Fergus example?

Instead of hounding him off the forum, better to give him the chance to make amends.

Fergus wasn't given this chance, even as he was making repayments he was continually being flamed into the reaction he took. I'm not defending him, merely thinking if he had been given the chance I'm sure more peeps would have got their money back.

2 things that do make me wonder though:

In the Fergus case, more often it was people who had no stake in him that were doing the flaming.

In this case we already have stakers stating that they were aware of Daves compulsivness and accept the risk that they knew they were taking.

Personally, after some of the pish on here over the past few months, I find it encouraging that a bit of sense is actually being shown.

Hope it all goes well from here.

Geo

Difference is that Dave's already delivered a return to stakers.

i can only assume this is a mis-click and you accidentally deleted your post?

Yes initially it included a definition of the term 'double standards', followed by its history. Mantis then went on to talk about the psychological aspect of this scenario and gave a report from Dave's second year at primary school.

Just caught up with this. This is ridiculous, how is it not a grim? He spent staker's money on something he wasn't meant to?

I know Fergus was a farce, but this seems the same.

Well intention to pay back and the fact i've already returned more than the stake to most of the stakers has already been mentioned, however i don't plan to respond to any more comments from non stakers so this thread doesn't decend any further.

Just me who's received nothing at all then? 

Ok bankroll finished at $2804.80 this is the shareholder breakdown :

30% Me
15% Bongo
5% Silo Graham
5% MC
10% gatso
10% Eck
15% jakally
10% Wardonkey

That means there is $402.40 more to return to shareholders plus their original stake.

Breakdown of who is owed what:

Bongo $360.36
Silo Graham $120.12
MC $120.12
gatso $240.24
Eck $240.24
jakally $360.36
Wardonkey $240.24

Total $1681.68

On top of those i still owe from previous withdrawal:

TheChipPrince $462.33
RobertHM $245.70

Overall Total $2389.71

I tried to pay RobertHM on Stars a couple of months back and it rejected as he had an age verification issue on his account which he needed to resolve i know he was busy with work but has not come back to me since, i think TheChipPrince rightly argues he should get paid first but by the same logic so should Robert.
Can other stakers let me know if they are happy to wait until those 2 are paid before i proportionally pay everyone else?
Hopefully i ship something decent and can pay it all in one go but if not that's the plan.

Just to help you along, I'm due $462.33, $262.33 proft at the point I dropped out, plus $200 initial stake...

Yes afraid so.

Correct just had to wade back through PM's and the thread to find amounts for you and Robert now modified post.

It seems fair that chipprince should get paid first as everyone else has had their share of that money.

Also agree that Robert should be paid first too, if someone can get in touch with him and he can sort out the age verification issues.

Agreed

do you have a job to pay people back the money you stole if you dont ship something or go on a spin up?

The people involved have a right to be angry and post whatever they want.

But why do people that have nothing to do with it have to stick their oar in?

Mind your own business imo.

Plenty of people had an opinion on the Fergus grim when they weren't invested too Camel, just how it is.

exactly hence fetts post

Let me guess Camel, he's your mate too, he's a nice guy really and didnt mean to grim/steal from anyone and you're sure he will pay the money back????

but its not really working is it
your both just looking a little foolish
i dont know either of you or penly but im starting to think you two are starting to look dafter than he is

na stu just think its redic , double standards

Fair enough, i dont even know why im commenting to be honest!

I dont know why your commenting either tbh

Like posting under someone else's name is too, assuming anyone is doing that

To repeat, Fergus wasn't banned for the grim, more the flagrant piss taking that followed. Riverdave isn't doing that, hence no double standard. Not to say anyone's happy about the situation. 

I am now commenting to thank you for your comment about my commenting

the 2 people claiming it's double standards both have sigs in support of fergus

surely you have double standards when you attack dave rather than supporting him as well seeing as you think the 2 of them did much the same thing

Nobody is claiming Fergus was banned for the grim.  Fergus was banned for his reaction to the mob of blondes that flooded his thread calling him a theif and a grimmer despite him coming back, confessing and saying he would pay everyone back.  Most of "the mob" were people who werent involved in the stake at all.

Thanks

Yes Paul (Boba), and there are plenty on this thread calling Penly all sorts. Not all of whom have been grimmed by him

and Penly's reaction is not to wade in, merely to calmly post what has happened, amounts owed, plans etc. Therein lies the difference.

and its probably fair to say we've all learnt something from the Fergus episode as Geo explained earlier in this thread

difference between fergus and dave is that every member of the stake apart from chip prince has already gotten back more than there orginal stake

I'm happy to wait bud...

+1.

they sure will understand that contradiction

I like dave more now than I did before.

I also dislike fergus more than before after all the silly posts from his partners.

I think dave should start a new thread asking for staking to win back the stake from this staking.50/50 split between the new stakers and the ones from this thread. Put me down for 5% when this happens pls.

Ever thought of working for gamblers anonymous Sov?

Dave: Sorry folks can't afford the bus fare to get to meetings.
Sov: Don't worry about it Dave, here is a tenner put it on the next Dog race.
Dave: Aaaah cheers Sov, I guarentee to get it back within in the next 12 months as I am such a stand up guy.

you could always buy chipprince's share. he might even sell it at a discount if you're lucky

i'm looking at a career change, maybe this is something i should pursuit

Edit - sorry for the error cos

gfo

better that than an English teacher

sigh, nothing gets past you does it?

Staking to reclaim the stake would be mev!

you want the other 95% then?  I think it would be epic.

Only if i get my WSOPE payout first :D

obv the new stakers would be paid first...

Im up for this to the tune of $100 ish for jokes

Would be guaranteed BOB if we could stake dave to get the stakers money back then he loses our money

(has to be that way round for comedy effect!)

I'm with you!

Still willing to accept $100 for my $160 share of the Fergus grim....................oops wrong thread.................incidentally I'd rather be a shareholder in Dave's stake than that of Fergus at least you've got a chance of him having a touch in the future and paying you out, Fergus has written off his debts apart from those in Scotland who he knew might pay him a visit.

[ ] i sure do

I think the stakers are aware of that. I've played full time for over 5 years now, but in the last 3 months i have started to look at alternatives. There's very little work available in my previous sector of work, accounting&finance, and theres even less demand for someone that hasn't done it for 5 years and can't easily get a reference. At the moment i don't have the money or the inclination to retrain.

$100 would be ok with me for the new stake to regain the stake.  any other takers?

count me in

im in

Get shipping boys

how much do we need to get the re stake off the ground?

how we going to work what goes where

and can we get someone to overlook the accounts

also if i ship to someone on stars can they ship money to dave on blonde?

couldnt dave do it on stars, we could discuss a number of tournies to play and ship the buy in for each day?  I say stars as its where i have funds and would be easier not because i want to move business away from blonde...

ok i think we need to word this and get the proposal fully on paper first

are you going to write it down and fax it to me or should we use the forum!?  ;)

need to know if dave would consider this obv.

lol just lol

levelaments

Now you're caked just put me in a $5500 hu 60/40 your favour bink that and the stakes basically paid off. :-)

good shout, can i have 5% just for the idea?

shiiped

Guess i should wait to play PeteEastgate again he is prob the value in these over the regs.

fk the value, just play a 10k one if you lose

camel is about

Erm gg we had a good run

...Like giving a lepar an ASBO...

...Like giving a lepar an ASBO...

So ridic I said it twice

Ok plan A of Flushy dropping the lot to me tonight backfired. Chip Prince sending the odd $262.33 to your stars account confirm pls when you receive.

Ok tried twice to send those funds to ID Ch1p_Pr1nce on Stars as your PM said and Stars won't allow the transfer, can you please check your account/email and get back to me. It will either be a details or age verification issue most likely.

Robert seems to have disappeared, not been online since August, i'll get on with sorting the rest of you guys out next unless he shows up. Will likely be payment on Stars, i have a Stars account for everyone other than Bongo. Can you let me know if you have one or whether i need to sort some FT $ out. Cheers.

Its probaly because I've only had the account 4-5 months and only ever made 1 smallish deposit.

I'm at work at mo but will log on when I get home and see what they say.

Alternatively, if anyone here would accept the $262.33 on Stars, and transfer me $250 to Blonde/or bank transfer that would be a real help...

I can do that for you...username = Epitomised (Lincoln)

Thanks very much, Dave, is that ok?

chipprince

you will need to send them a copy of your driving liecence

I don't have a stars account, FT would be good if it's not too much trouble.

Now shipped the full amount $462.33 to MC's Stars account for you Chip Prince. Thanks for assisiting James.

Np mate...

Ok Silo Graham, MC, gatso, Eck and Chip Prince all paid full amounts today on Stars, all please confirm receipt.

Jakally and Wardonkey both your accounts seem to have the same issue with receiving transfers as i've experienced with Robert and CP. Can you look into it and let me know if it can be sorted or alternatives.

Bongo i'll get some FT $ when i can cash out of Stars in the next 24 hours hopefully. Anyone in contact with RobertHM?

Currently still owed:

Bongo $360.36
jakally $360.36
Wardonkey $240.24
RobertHM $245.70

Presume you are referring to BP account?
I've got Stars & FTP accounts - both jakally - if that's any use.

No sorry i was referring to trying to xfer you on Stars, i only have Stars $ at the moment.

jakally email support@pokerstars.com and they will put you in touch with right department if you send then a scan of your driving licence then they will allow transfers again

Rec'd Cheers Dave.

All recieved thanks

+1, thanks Dave

MC has kindly acted as a 3rd party, and has passed me the money, so a big thanks to him, and a belated thanks to RiverDave for being good to his word, albeit 6 months late!

got it, cheers

Can't believe James didn't make you wait.

2 or 3 weeks domino effect grim would've been priceless.

oops bokked him :(

I've been away for a few days, I've just e-mailed stars to sort out whatever the the problem is.

Dave,

E-mailed support and they say my account is active for transfers.
Can you have another go pls.

My verification wotsit is now sorted. Please try again.

Thanks

Just tried again tonight and get the same message about not being able to receive transfers, can you contact support again and make it clear you definitely aren't able to receive transfers and if you need to send documentation or something to get it opened.

Done tonight just shipped $240.24 please confirm.

Currently still owed:

Bongo $360.36
jakally $360.36
RobertHM $245.70

Received, thanks.

Dave - see the PM I've sent you.

Dave had a $47k spin up about a month ago. Anyone get paid?

Obv done it all back since and knocked me too when I tried to help him out. Hope I see him in the near future.

So you can play him heads up?