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Title: Arrrgh, What do you do here... Post by: Amatay on February 12, 2009, 01:34:54 AM I dont have the HH but this is pretty much what happened.....
50/100 my stack 2.2k or there abouts 4 fish limp and i decide to peel on the button with QJ. Would you do this btw??? Is this a mistake The sb completes and bb checks. seven take a flop of Q8J rainbow flopping me top 2 pr. Checks to me and i bet 500 into 700. the sb and bb both flat. king pops on the turn which aint great and the sb checks but the bb fires out 600 and has me slightly covered. i have about 1.7k back so its obv shove or fold. Is this an obv blast?? Should i have ever got invloved in this hand? I find these spots tough to play esp when i bet and get called the then the flop callers donk lead the turn like this. Title: Re: Arrrgh, What do you do here... Post by: Royal Flush on February 12, 2009, 01:50:20 AM buyin/site plz
Title: Re: Arrrgh, What do you do here... Post by: Amatay on February 12, 2009, 01:55:06 AM $50f ipoker. Whats hands can i beat other than k10??
Title: Re: Arrrgh, What do you do here... Post by: MANTIS01 on February 12, 2009, 02:14:51 PM After 4 limpers calling from the best seat with a drawing hand is ok imo. But I don't like the betting 500 into 700. It's like a bet that really wants to take this pot down. A bet you could make with atc, when in reality you have top 2 pair on a rainbow board. You don't say what the other stacks are but the 500 bet is about 25% of yours. Will villains make a mistake and call 25% of their stack with a worse hand than yours with loads of active players behind? That would be a pretty bad mistake imo. The bet size also gives villains less room to raise you with worse. I would bet 250 on the flop. You make things tougher for yourself by betting so much into a limped 7 way pot and giving yourself less room to manoeuvre. Keep the pot small and see what action the turn card brings imo.
Title: Re: Arrrgh, What do you do here... Post by: GreekStein on February 12, 2009, 02:23:49 PM I like raising the button here with your hand and bunch of limpers
Title: Re: Arrrgh, What do you do here... Post by: gatso on February 12, 2009, 04:04:53 PM I like raising the button here with your hand and bunch of limpers seriously? if you're going to raise here there's no point making it any less that about 650/700. do you really want to commit 1/3 of your stack here? Title: Re: Arrrgh, What do you do here... Post by: Amatay on February 12, 2009, 05:13:59 PM I like raising the button here with your hand and bunch of limpers Not with my stack, i might aswell blast if i am gonna raise pre. Any other thoughts on this hands. Should i have just folded pre. Its ipoker btw so other stacks as not too disimiilar from mine as with this site anyone with over 30 bb's usually has a monster CL and 15bb's is about chip av Title: Re: Arrrgh, What do you do here... Post by: daviebhoy on February 12, 2009, 05:23:39 PM Do you really want to play flops multiway with QJ and 22 BBs ? Especially if you're not suited ? This is another classic "trouble" hand.
Folding is your best option or I quite like Greek Steins play occassionally raising a large amount pre representing pockets aces depending on table and my image. You would then move-in on this flop if called. I like this more than trying to hit a flop with QJ then flopping top 2 pair and having no idea whether I'm good. Title: Re: Arrrgh, What do you do here... Post by: gribbo on February 12, 2009, 06:03:23 PM Ask the guy wtf he is doing/has and that you are the "blogfather", jam it in regardless and fill up on the river against his straight!
Nah I would raise it preflop and obv play for stacks on the flop. In the current situation im getting the stack in. Title: Re: Arrrgh, What do you do here... Post by: GreekStein on February 12, 2009, 06:12:21 PM I like raising the button here with your hand and bunch of limpers seriously? if you're going to raise here there's no point making it any less that about 650/700. do you really want to commit 1/3 of your stack here? If I think they're all folding why not? 7 bbs dead money in the pot - I'm taking it. I like raising the button here with your hand and bunch of limpers Not with my stack, i might aswell blast if i am gonna raise pre. Any other thoughts on this hands. Should i have just folded pre. Its ipoker btw so other stacks as not too disimiilar from mine as with this site anyone with over 30 bb's usually has a monster CL and 15bb's is about chip av so what's wrong with raising with QJ here? In a limpfest crapshoot I'm taking the dead money here if I really feel my oponents aren't tricky and limping with monsters. Title: Re: Arrrgh, What do you do here... Post by: ZZZZZZZROPE on February 13, 2009, 12:15:07 AM I like raising the button here with your hand and bunch of limpers seriously? if you're going to raise here there's no point making it any less that about 650/700. do you really want to commit 1/3 of your stack here? If I think they're all folding why not? 7 bbs dead money in the pot - I'm taking it. I like raising the button here with your hand and bunch of limpers Not with my stack, i might aswell blast if i am gonna raise pre. Any other thoughts on this hands. Should i have just folded pre. Its ipoker btw so other stacks as not too disimiilar from mine as with this site anyone with over 30 bb's usually has a monster CL and 15bb's is about chip av so what's wrong with raising with QJ here? In a limpfest crapshoot I'm taking the dead money here if I really feel my oponents aren't tricky and limping with monsters. yes but in ipoker games i wouldnt be suprised if you get a caller with atc , you cbet flop and your committed imo. i would tend to just pass pre but then again im a nit Title: Re: Arrrgh, What do you do here... Post by: Royal Flush on February 13, 2009, 02:09:04 AM After 4 limpers calling from the best seat with a drawing hand is ok imo. But I don't like the betting 500 into 700. It's like a bet that really wants to take this pot down. A bet you could make with atc, when in reality you have top 2 pair on a rainbow board. You don't say what the other stacks are but the 500 bet is about 25% of yours. Will villains make a mistake and call 25% of their stack with a worse hand than yours with loads of active players behind? That would be a pretty bad mistake imo. The bet size also gives villains less room to raise you with worse. I would bet 250 on the flop. You make things tougher for yourself by betting so much into a limped 7 way pot and giving yourself less room to manoeuvre. Keep the pot small and see what action the turn card brings imo. Do you ever play on ipoker? |