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Title: How should this hand have went?
Post by: Hairydude on February 22, 2009, 09:55:08 AM
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PokerStars Game #25202036637: Tournament #140556417, $50+$5 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2009/02/21 22:09:26 GMT [2009/02/21 17:09:26 ET]
Table '140556417 93' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: kevin3636 (3070 in chips)
Seat 2: PSUROCKETS (2950 in chips)
Seat 3: iliadivilia (2970 in chips)
Seat 4: cbrlois (5350 in chips)
Seat 5: Taras80 (3560 in chips)
Seat 6: Buster9292 (2980 in chips)
Seat 7: njw11 (3000 in chips)
Seat 8: hairymonster (3120 in chips)
Taras80: posts small blind 10
Buster9292: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to hairymonster [Ah Kh]
njw11: raises 60 to 80
hairymonster: calls 80
kevin3636: folds
PSUROCKETS: calls 80
iliadivilia: folds
cbrlois: folds
Taras80: folds
Buster9292: folds
*** FLOP *** [3h 4s 5h]
njw11: bets 160

Should I have repopped him preflop?? didnt really want to do this OOP so early in tournament so decided to make a gay call for pot control. I take it I should be raising this c-bet with flush/straight draw and 2 overs-how much??


Title: Re: How should this hand have went?
Post by: GreekStein on February 22, 2009, 10:56:34 AM
pot it like its hot


Title: Re: How should this hand have went?
Post by: Longy on February 22, 2009, 02:02:19 PM
I would 3bet pre but flatting is ok as well imo.

Yeah deffo raise this flop, 500ish to go imo.


Title: Re: How should this hand have went?
Post by: gatso on February 22, 2009, 02:25:21 PM
nothing wrong with the flat pre when this deep, call or raise it's all good

deffo pump it up now we've got that flop. 500-600 is good


Title: Re: How should this hand have went?
Post by: MC on February 22, 2009, 02:27:25 PM
I would 3bet pre but flatting is ok as well imo.

Yeah deffo raise this flop, 500ish to go imo.

^Agree, 490 hits the spot for me...


Title: Re: How should this hand have went?
Post by: dousche on February 22, 2009, 02:58:45 PM
not fussed preflop, but go get that equity while you can on the flop!


Title: Re: How should this hand have went?
Post by: NoflopsHomer on February 23, 2009, 02:24:48 AM
Flatting is fine preflop. You don't have to RR AK every time tbh. Donks never fold 88-JJ to two or three barrels anyway.


Title: Re: How should this hand have went?
Post by: bolt pp on February 23, 2009, 03:30:44 AM
the same thing has been said 6 different ways now so i'm not sure i can find a different way of saying the same thing but basically i agree, hhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmm but which one to quote.......

greekstien has used a rather witty music analogy which gets points but fails to analyse the action pre which if he'd been able to differentiate between the two separate lines we couldve taken  using the music stylings of fatboyslim he'd be a shoe in.

longy's consistent application of clear and concise PHA is a joy to behold though suffixing both paragraphs with "imo" is surely unnecessary, just the one at the end of the whole thing should surfice, i'm 90% sure it means - points.

Gatso has chosen to not even bother putting his own slant on it but just copied Longy's analysis almost verbatom when clearly a quote and +1 would have done, on the other hand he has suffixed his two paragraphs with "good", hhhhhmmmmmm, is this a underhanded pop at longy's double end of sentence acronym, if so it could be the greatest and worth +1000 ponts.

MC has in fact decided to do what i felt Gatso has done, he's gone for the straight up quote but put his own slant on it but what are we telling our oppo by raising 490 instead of 500, it's things like this can win or lose us the tourney, it's a high risk post and i'm not sure i want to align myself with it.

dousche has gone with the one lined approach, not deviating from reiterating the previous posts he has included the term equity and also used an exclamation mark which we have thus far yet to see which are all bonus points, on the other hand i dont know him and if he turns out to be a fergus and does a bunk with everyones dough i'll look a right mug for quoting one of his posts.

floppy has included the generic range of oppo for purposes of example, this is good, he can also get me a t-shirt which kinda swings it but there are so many other good posts saying exactly the same thing, sigh, which one is for me!  ;carlocitrone;

sussed it......................


Title: Re: How should this hand have went?
Post by: bolt pp on February 23, 2009, 03:32:46 AM
Fold pre  :)up


Title: Re: How should this hand have went?
Post by: Longy on February 23, 2009, 03:57:39 AM
the same thing has been said 6 different ways now so i'm not sure i can find a different way of saying the same thing but basically i agree, hhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmm but which one to quote.......

greekstien has used a rather witty music analogy which gets points but fails to analyse the action pre which if he'd been able to differentiate between the two separate lines we couldve taken  using the music stylings of fatboyslim he'd be a shoe in.

longy's consistent application of clear and concise PHA is a joy to behold though suffixing both paragraphs with "imo" is surely unnecessary, just the one at the end of the whole thing should surfice, i'm 90% sure it means - points.

Gatso has chosen to not even bother putting his own slant on it but just copied Longy's analysis almost verbatom when clearly a quote and +1 would have done, on the other hand he has suffixed his two paragraphs with "good", hhhhhmmmmmm, is this a underhanded pop at longy's double end of sentence acronym, if so it could be the greatest and worth +1000 ponts.

MC has in fact decided to do what i felt Gatso has done, he's gone for the straight up quote but put his own slant on it but what are we telling our oppo by raising 490 instead of 500, it's things like this can win or lose us the tourney, it's a high risk post and i'm not sure i want to align myself with it.

dousche has gone with the one lined approach, not deviating from reiterating the previous posts he has included the term equity and also used an exclamation mark which we have thus far yet to see which are all bonus points, on the other hand i dont know him and if he turns out to be a fergus and does a bunk with everyones dough i'll look a right mug for quoting one of his posts.

floppy has included the generic range of oppo for purposes of example, this is good, he can also get me a t-shirt which kinda swings it but there are so many other good posts saying exactly the same thing, sigh, which one is for me!  ;carlocitrone;

sussed it......................

lol, imo.


Title: Re: How should this hand have went?
Post by: Hairydude on February 23, 2009, 07:29:14 AM
lol thanks for the input bolt

*** FLOP *** [3h 4s 5h]
njw11: bets 160
hairymonster: raises 270 to 430
PSUROCKETS: folds
njw11: raises 2490 to 2920 and is all-in

ok so I bet slightly less than you guys said but not much- now its an obvious call eh?? since i'm favourite 77-QQ and getting great odds anyhow if I was a small dog. I just hate getting them all in so early in tournament but guess it cant be helped in this situation.

Question though- in this situation should I be looking to take down the pot uncontested after his 160 bet on the flop or should I be looking to get it all in???


Title: Re: How should this hand have went?
Post by: kukushkin88 on February 23, 2009, 08:52:42 AM
You should be trying to find the most effective way to get it all in. You're way ahead of QQ-77 (60%). As usual with these massive draws we're only a big dog to a set.


Title: Re: How should this hand have went?
Post by: gatso on February 23, 2009, 10:49:54 AM
the same thing has been said 6 different ways now so i'm not sure i can find a different way of saying the same thing but basically i agree, hhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmm but which one to quote.......

greekstien has used a rather witty music analogy which gets points but fails to analyse the action pre which if he'd been able to differentiate between the two separate lines we couldve taken  using the music stylings of fatboyslim he'd be a shoe in.

longy's consistent application of clear and concise PHA is a joy to behold though suffixing both paragraphs with "imo" is surely unnecessary, just the one at the end of the whole thing should surfice, i'm 90% sure it means - points.

Gatso has chosen to not even bother putting his own slant on it but just copied Longy's analysis almost verbatom when clearly a quote and +1 would have done, on the other hand he has suffixed his two paragraphs with "good", hhhhhmmmmmm, is this a underhanded pop at longy's double end of sentence acronym, if so it could be the greatest and worth +1000 ponts.

MC has in fact decided to do what i felt Gatso has done, he's gone for the straight up quote but put his own slant on it but what are we telling our oppo by raising 490 instead of 500, it's things like this can win or lose us the tourney, it's a high risk post and i'm not sure i want to align myself with it.

dousche has gone with the one lined approach, not deviating from reiterating the previous posts he has included the term equity and also used an exclamation mark which we have thus far yet to see which are all bonus points, on the other hand i dont know him and if he turns out to be a fergus and does a bunk with everyones dough i'll look a right mug for quoting one of his posts.

floppy has included the generic range of oppo for purposes of example, this is good, he can also get me a t-shirt which kinda swings it but there are so many other good posts saying exactly the same thing, sigh, which one is for me!  ;carlocitrone;

sussed it......................

lol, imo.

lol, it's all good


Title: Re: How should this hand have went?
Post by: dousche on February 23, 2009, 01:53:29 PM
dousche has gone with the one lined approach, not deviating from reiterating the previous posts he has included the term equity and also used an exclamation mark which we have thus far yet to see which are all bonus points, on the other hand i dont know him and if he turns out to be a fergus and does a bunk with everyones dough i'll look a right mug for quoting one of his posts.

whats a fergus?


Title: Re: How should this hand have went?
Post by: GreekStein on February 23, 2009, 02:00:54 PM
dousche has gone with the one lined approach, not deviating from reiterating the previous posts he has included the term equity and also used an exclamation mark which we have thus far yet to see which are all bonus points, on the other hand i dont know him and if he turns out to be a fergus and does a bunk with everyones dough i'll look a right mug for quoting one of his posts.

whats a fergus?

Haha nice try Ferg!

the same thing has been said 6 different ways now so i'm not sure i can find a different way of saying the same thing but basically i agree, hhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmm but which one to quote.......

greekstien has used a rather witty music analogy which gets points but fails to analyse the action pre which if he'd been able to differentiate between the two separate lines we couldve taken  using the music stylings of fatboyslim he'd be a shoe in.

longy's consistent application of clear and concise PHA is a joy to behold though suffixing both paragraphs with "imo" is surely unnecessary, just the one at the end of the whole thing should surfice, i'm 90% sure it means - points.

Gatso has chosen to not even bother putting his own slant on it but just copied Longy's analysis almost verbatom when clearly a quote and +1 would have done, on the other hand he has suffixed his two paragraphs with "good", hhhhhmmmmmm, is this a underhanded pop at longy's double end of sentence acronym, if so it could be the greatest and worth +1000 ponts.

MC has in fact decided to do what i felt Gatso has done, he's gone for the straight up quote but put his own slant on it but what are we telling our oppo by raising 490 instead of 500, it's things like this can win or lose us the tourney, it's a high risk post and i'm not sure i want to align myself with it.

dousche has gone with the one lined approach, not deviating from reiterating the previous posts he has included the term equity and also used an exclamation mark which we have thus far yet to see which are all bonus points, on the other hand i dont know him and if he turns out to be a fergus and does a bunk with everyones dough i'll look a right mug for quoting one of his posts.

floppy has included the generic range of oppo for purposes of example, this is good, he can also get me a t-shirt which kinda swings it but there are so many other good posts saying exactly the same thing, sigh, which one is for me!  ;carlocitrone;

sussed it......................

I love this post like a fat kid loves cake