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Title: Scottish alcohol plans
Post by: byronkincaid on March 02, 2009, 12:42:19 PM
LOL the scots are being treated like naughty school children who can't be trusted with their alcohol

no doubt it will be brought into england soon

fantastic business opportunities in setting up discount booze supermarkets next to the scottish border?

nanny fcking state. Wow.

With global warming, carbon footprints, problems with pension funds etc, are people who drink themselves to an early death not doing the rest of the world a favour?


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/7918734.stm





Title: Re: Scottish alcohol plans
Post by: ItsMrAlex2u on March 02, 2009, 12:49:11 PM
Upgrade to class B IMO


Title: Re: Scottish alcohol plans
Post by: Dewi_cool on March 02, 2009, 12:52:02 PM
Home brewing ftw


Title: Re: Scottish alcohol plans
Post by: cia260895 on March 02, 2009, 12:56:26 PM
Set out new ways to support adults deemed to be drunk and incapable.

free taxis?


Title: Re: Scottish alcohol plans
Post by: sovietsong on March 02, 2009, 03:08:26 PM
Its clear the scottish can't be trusted with alchol or food (deep fried mars bars etc) maybe rations would be the best way round this? Each scottish person gets 15 tokens and can only use them where they are told.

What a joke! What's next? Salt banned/taxed more than fuel!


Title: Re: Scottish alcohol plans
Post by: bhoywonder on March 02, 2009, 04:51:47 PM
Im all for it.a nite out in glasgow sauchiehall street on saturday would do that for anyone.seen 3 fights and the atmosphere was pretty nasty.


Title: Re: Scottish alcohol plans
Post by: Woodsey on March 02, 2009, 04:59:45 PM
Booze is too cheap all around IMO, and thats coming from someone who likes a few.


Title: Re: Scottish alcohol plans
Post by: johnlarsson on March 02, 2009, 06:08:16 PM
Im all for it.a nite out in glasgow sauchiehall street on saturday would do that for anyone.seen 3 fights and the atmosphere was pretty nasty.

charlie bang on.....

i was out on sauchiehall street on saturday all day and night.. it was the first time i had been out on a saturday night for 3 years.. i go out tuesdays thursday sundays etc  and its great great atmosphere...

a saturday is an absoulet riot.....  i hate it and i think it will be min 3 years before i do it again.

altho i think it is unfair to put the prices up becuase some ppl cant handle it..   

midweek avearge vodka and mix on suchirhall street in pubs and clubs 1.50    saturday night 3-4 quid......  how much higher can you put it?????

and i find it unfair to put it up midweek for the none trouble makers who enjoy a night out and the bars who are making it cheap to attract business to stay in business.


and as for this crap the scots cant handle there drink.. absoult bollocks..


Title: Re: Scottish alcohol plans
Post by: Div on March 02, 2009, 07:26:36 PM
I think it's a good idea. It's not going to lead to the average price of a pint or a short in a normal pub going up, it's about levelling up the price of the cheap crap that tends to get drunk by idiots on street corners.

I was in my local supermarket the other week buying some stuff for a night out and I reckon I could have got myself legless on a fiver. That's just stupid.


Title: Re: Scottish alcohol plans
Post by: Swordpoker on March 04, 2009, 05:53:32 AM
Im all for it.a nite out in glasgow sauchiehall street on saturday would do that for anyone.seen 3 fights and the atmosphere was pretty nasty.

Ban Saturday nights


Title: Re: Scottish alcohol plans
Post by: thetank on March 04, 2009, 05:35:46 PM
# End irresponsible drink promotions, such as two-for-one offers, and the below-cost sale of alcohol in licensed premises.

^^^^^

I'd like to see this + a return to 25ml measures.

Strongly support both those ideas.

Against taxing pubs with a social responsibility charge though.



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With global warming, carbon footprints, problems with pension funds etc, are people who drink themselves to an early death not doing the rest of the world a favour?


If they did it in their own living rooms, yes.


Title: Re: Scottish alcohol plans
Post by: thetank on March 04, 2009, 05:39:52 PM

and as for this crap the scots cant handle there drink.. absoult bollocks..


We're drinking more than we can handle, and this leads to anti social behaviour etc.

Whether that's 30 units or 300 units is irrelevant


Title: Re: Scottish alcohol plans
Post by: boldie on March 04, 2009, 07:58:58 PM
They had a little list in the Times the other day saying what would become more expensive.

[X]Tesco Value Gin, Wodka and Whiskey (So that's good)
[X] Premium and normal Lager (Wchih normal people also drink, no..so not in favour of that)
[X] wine (Really?)
[ ] Buckfast and alcopops (Kind off missing out on that one, no? I thought this would be the main thing.)


Title: Re: Scottish alcohol plans
Post by: Rod Paradise on March 06, 2009, 12:14:13 PM
# End irresponsible drink promotions, such as two-for-one offers, and the below-cost sale of alcohol in licensed premises.

^^^^^

I'd like to see this + a return to 25ml measures.

Strongly support both those ideas.

Against taxing pubs with a social responsibility charge though.



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With global warming, carbon footprints, problems with pension funds etc, are people who drink themselves to an early death not doing the rest of the world a favour?


If they did it in their own living rooms, yes.

WTF!!! I was used to 1/4 gill shops, they then decimalised, the English pubs rounded up from 1/6th to 25 ml,  the 1/5 gill pubs (the majority in Scotland IIRC) got rounded down to 25ml & the 1/4 gills rounded down to 35ml. I never bothered drinking spirits in England when it was only 1/6 gill & the standard 25ml isn't much better - it hardly wets the bottom of the glass.

What we need is for people who cause a problem to punished, instead of attempting to legislate everyone into behaving.


Title: Re: Scottish alcohol plans
Post by: boldie on March 06, 2009, 01:20:23 PM
# End irresponsible drink promotions, such as two-for-one offers, and the below-cost sale of alcohol in licensed premises.

^^^^^

I'd like to see this + a return to 25ml measures.

Strongly support both those ideas.

Against taxing pubs with a social responsibility charge though.



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With global warming, carbon footprints, problems with pension funds etc, are people who drink themselves to an early death not doing the rest of the world a favour?


If they did it in their own living rooms, yes.

WTF!!! I was used to 1/4 gill shops, they then decimalised, the English pubs rounded up from 1/6th to 25 ml,  the 1/5 gill pubs (the majority in Scotland IIRC) got rounded down to 25ml & the 1/4 gills rounded down to 35ml. I never bothered drinking spirits in England when it was only 1/6 gill & the standard 25ml isn't much better - it hardly wets the bottom of the glass.

What we need is for people who cause a problem to punished, instead of attempting to legislate everyone into behaving.

this.


Title: Re: Scottish alcohol plans
Post by: bhoywonder on March 06, 2009, 01:51:56 PM
Nah,we voted for em.we get what we deserve.i.e. The nanny state..


Title: Re: Scottish alcohol plans
Post by: Scottish Dave on March 06, 2009, 03:22:54 PM
I was in my local supermarket the other week buying some stuff for a night out and I reckon I could have got myself legless on a fiver. That's just stupid.

Precisely mate!

I got 6 bottles of Super Bock and a bottle of Red Echo Falls last night for £6.93 (£3.50 for Echo Falls/£3.43 for Beers!)

Leave it be Div!


Title: Re: Scottish alcohol plans
Post by: lazaroonie on March 06, 2009, 03:48:17 PM
I was in my local supermarket the other week buying some stuff for a night out and I reckon I could have got myself legless on a fiver. That's just stupid.

Precisely mate!

I got 6 bottles of Super Bock and a bottle of Red Echo Falls last night for £6.93 (£3.50 for Echo Falls/£3.43 for Beers!)

Leave it be Div!

is that your social life these days, a bottle of echo falls and a sex and the city DVD ?


Title: Re: Scottish alcohol plans
Post by: thetank on March 06, 2009, 04:00:26 PM

What we need is for people who cause a problem to punished, instead of attempting to legislate everyone into behaving.


Trouble with that with something like drink is it's tough to get a punishment that is harsh enough to deter people without going the other way and chopping off the bollocks of those who are just letting their hair down and let things go a little bit too far, or maybe they got Mickey Finn-ed on their stag night or something like that.


Title: Re: Scottish alcohol plans
Post by: Scottish Dave on March 06, 2009, 07:27:32 PM
I was in my local supermarket the other week buying some stuff for a night out and I reckon I could have got myself legless on a fiver. That's just stupid.

Precisely mate!

I got 6 bottles of Super Bock and a bottle of Red Echo Falls last night for £6.93 (£3.50 for Echo Falls/£3.43 for Beers!)

Leave it be Div!

is that your social life these days, a bottle of echo falls and a sex and the city DVD ?

Ive told you before, Its the bird that like Sex and the City, I only watch it to see Samatha's Jubblies every 2 minutes!!!

Im actually just beasting through the first 4 seasons of Lost just now! Its tough going.


Title: Re: Scottish alcohol plans
Post by: byronkincaid on March 12, 2009, 10:25:02 AM
chocolate now. evil stuff. tax it ldo.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/glasgow_and_west/7938282.stm


Title: Re: Scottish alcohol plans
Post by: dousche on March 12, 2009, 04:45:12 PM
Im all for it.a nite out in glasgow sauchiehall street on saturday would do that for anyone.seen 3 fights and the atmosphere was pretty nasty.

charlie bang on.....

i was out on sauchiehall street on saturday all day and night.. it was the first time i had been out on a saturday night for 3 years.. i go out tuesdays thursday sundays etc  and its great great atmosphere...

a saturday is an absoulet riot.....  i hate it and i think it will be min 3 years before i do it again.

altho i think it is unfair to put the prices up becuase some ppl cant handle it..   

midweek avearge vodka and mix on suchirhall street in pubs and clubs 1.50    saturday night 3-4 quid......  how much higher can you put it?????

and i find it unfair to put it up midweek for the none trouble makers who enjoy a night out and the bars who are making it cheap to attract business to stay in business.


and as for this crap the scots cant handle there drink.. absoult bollocks..

my gf is at uni in glasgow so iv been up for the occasional saturday night out. sauchiehall st can be a horrible place to be. some decent clubs but the atmosphere outside isnt great. how much of this is down to the price of alcohol and how much down to a lack of punishment for those having a punch up i dont know... but i doubt that people will stop getting drunk on saturday nights because of a small price rise


Title: Re: Scottish alcohol plans
Post by: Rod Paradise on March 12, 2009, 05:22:24 PM

What we need is for people who cause a problem to punished, instead of attempting to legislate everyone into behaving.


Trouble with that with something like drink is it's tough to get a punishment that is harsh enough to deter people without going the other way and chopping off the bollocks of those who are just letting their hair down and let things go a little bit too far, or maybe they got Mickey (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=2188) Finn (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=2188)-ed on their stag night or something like that.

Not really Tank, there's plenty of laws for the people to use to punish people for assault, vandalism, even the old police favorite, breach of the peace. They've even got laws to punish you for the risk of anti-socail behaviour (the ban on public drinking & the 'anti-rave' powers they got, which they use on everything but raves). Punish the assaulters, vandals etc & leave the rest of the drinkers alone IMO.


Title: Re: Scottish alcohol plans
Post by: Indestructable on March 12, 2009, 09:10:54 PM
At least chocolates ok.

"Scottish GPs have voted against a proposal for chocolate to be taxed in the same way as alcohol and cigarettes to tackle increasing levels of obesity."


Title: Re: Scottish alcohol plans
Post by: boldie on March 13, 2009, 10:44:35 AM
At least chocolates ok.

"Scottish GPs have voted against a proposal for chocolate to be taxed in the same way as alcohol and cigarettes to tackle increasing levels of obesity."

YAY for democracy!