Title: "The W*****" replies... Post by: The Camel on November 28, 2005, 01:23:12 AM I heard all about Mr Guoga's post at Walsall earlier this week, but I've only just had the chance to read it myself..
I considered not responding at all, maybe that would have been the best option, but I feel I need the chance to justify what I said and defend myself From his abuse. He says he always liked me. Well, in Amsterdam about 4 years ago he certainly didn't prove it. He subjected me to a tirade of abuse I have never encountered before. He abused me and my family. He called me names I have never been called before or since. He clearly doesn't remember this. Perhaps he has abused and taunted so many players he forgets who he has been rude to and who he hasn't. He keeps his antics for the biggest events. He is clearly a self publicist who believes any publicity is good publicity. He is usually well behaved in non televised tournaments. He clearly makes a conscious decision to behave badly when he can hit the headlines. He is not reacting spontaneously. It is all an act. And what an appalling act it is. Imagine how you would feel, playing in a million dollar tournament. You have just lost a huge pot and you have an uncouth showman rubbing your face in it, laughing at you. He is not celebrating his win, he is just taunting you for losing. And then he has the audacity to apologise afterwards. As though he make the remarks accidentally. He apologises purely to make himself look better. If you do something in the heat of the moment, an apology makes it better. If you make a calculated action, you can make as many apologies as you like. It doesn't make it any difference. You are responsible for you actions. and the actions of Tony G are those of ungentlemanly, rude oaf. If someone I like and respect calls me a wanker it upsets me and I want to know why. I neither like nor respect Tony G. A friend immediately offered to bankroll me in a $25,000 heads up challenge match with Tony G. I was initially very tempted. But what would it prove? If it meant Tony G never acted obnoxiously again it would be worth it. But, he has made it clear nothing will change him. So there will be no challenge match. Title: Re: "The W****" replies... Post by: Nem on November 28, 2005, 01:26:43 AM :respect: :goodpost:
Title: Re: "The W*****" replies... Post by: ifm on November 28, 2005, 03:56:32 AM took your time you w***................only joking, i don't know you but i love your blog :)
Title: Re: "The W*****" replies... Post by: RobS on November 28, 2005, 04:12:33 AM Never mind Tony G, just concentrate on getting the Stars $530 won! (Camel 7th from 19, 1,762 started, top prize $193k).
Good luck! Title: Re: "The W*****" replies... Post by: Ironside on November 28, 2005, 04:34:28 AM fair response keith
the edit to your post is to remove smileys so that the as looked like an as with a capital A and not As Title: Re: "The W*****" replies... Post by: TightEnd on November 28, 2005, 08:30:24 AM the only other change is to tone down the title in the posts above.
rest is untouched. Title: Re: "The W*****" replies... Post by: Foxy on November 28, 2005, 08:47:39 AM Camel im behind you all the way, ive only met/played this guy once and I aint got no time for him. Dave and Tikay like him and they good judge of people but I cant see what he has that makes anybody want to be close to him. Long live the the camel,BTW Keith wants a Gillette razer for christmas please santa :D
Title: Re: "The W*****" replies... Post by: Royal Flush on November 28, 2005, 09:10:18 AM Keith i hope you know you have my support aswell, its not hard to see who the decent guy is....
P.S. Your €500, Luton good? Title: Re: "The W*****" replies... Post by: Heid on November 28, 2005, 10:18:15 AM A fair and measured response after the dust has settled is always far more powerful than a rant of the same strength as the original posting.
My mod heart treasures the power of your words, and their intelligence. My real heart respects you even more. Heid xx Title: Re: "The W*****" replies... Post by: M3boy on November 28, 2005, 10:21:40 AM :respect: :goodpost:
Title: Re: "The W*****" replies... Post by: The_Ant on November 28, 2005, 11:26:59 AM Totally agree with the above Keith, there is not a lot to like about the man.
:goodpost: :respect: Title: Re: "The W*****" replies... Post by: Karabiner on November 28, 2005, 02:30:48 PM Very well put Keith, could not agree with you more.
BTW if you can't see that beard in the mirror you may have turned into a wercamel ::) Title: Re: "The W*****" replies... Post by: tikay on November 28, 2005, 02:45:15 PM What beard?
[attachment deleted by admin] Title: Re: "The W*****" replies... Post by: vinni on November 28, 2005, 06:37:07 PM lets earn some money for charity heads up with sponsers ,im sure blue sqaire or sporting odds whould put monies into such a grudge match
Title: Re: "The W*****" replies... Post by: b4matt on November 28, 2005, 06:49:44 PM It's always nice to see someone argue there corner in such a polite and well versed way. Keith your an excelent player (robbing g!t!!) and a great personality at the tables. ive enjoyed donating my chips to you on a couple of occasions. Great response- True Gent
Title: Re: "The W*****" replies... Post by: matt674 on November 28, 2005, 07:22:50 PM Someone ought to tell Mr Camel that it probably isnt advisable to wear that white shirt again whilst in the state of unshavedness - Police in Walsall have announced in a recent press conference that there have been several unconfirmed sightings of the abominable snowman...........
Good Job in the $500 last night!! ;applause; Title: Re: "The W*****" replies... Post by: The Camel on November 28, 2005, 08:04:40 PM Thanks for the kind words everybody.
Regarding the beard, I can barely afford razors these days. Have you seen the price of nappies?? So, I thought I would look for a part time job. I heard there was a seasonal job available in a local department store. They are looking for a fat bloke, with a red nose and a beard. Just up my street... Hohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohhohoho................ Title: Re: "The W*****" replies... Post by: Colchester Kev on November 28, 2005, 08:10:17 PM does he get a poker branded red suit ?? if so, im growing a beard from tomorrow ;)
Title: Re: "The W*****" replies... Post by: The Baron on November 29, 2005, 01:53:06 AM Sorry for the late reply, been away all weekend.
Good post Mr Camel. RESPECK! Title: Re: "The W*****" replies... Post by: dik9 on November 29, 2005, 06:48:06 AM TOTAL :respect: Camel,
BTW Thanks for the write up in Cardplayer!! Hope to see you in Feb if not before (maybe at Blonde Bash) :D Title: Re: "The W*****" replies... Post by: wsopin07 on November 30, 2005, 02:40:33 AM I originally tried to stick up for Tony G, I am glad you clarified this, I now know what you think of him and that makes a big difference to me, bye bye Tony GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG GGG GGGGG GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG GGG GG GGGGGGGGGGGG GGGGGGGG GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
Title: Re: "The W*****" replies... Post by: Scottish Dave on November 30, 2005, 02:53:42 AM never mind all this, what place / prize did you finish with in the $500 on stars???
Title: Re: "The W*****" replies... Post by: I KNOW IT on November 30, 2005, 03:16:05 AM Keith, I thought you were the POKER BASTARD not the POKER W****R??? ;)
Title: Re: "The W*****" replies... Post by: byronkincaid on November 30, 2005, 11:35:12 AM I dunno about the poker bastard but surely the camel ruminates should now be the camel mastur.... well you get the idea ;D
Title: Re: "The W*****" replies... Post by: TonyG on November 30, 2005, 12:00:15 PM I do have to respond, now I do like to remind you Camel that you started the attack not me.
Also some of the facts that you state: Well, in Amsterdam about 4 years ago he certainly didn't prove it. He subjected me to a tirade of abuse I have never encountered before. He abused me and my family. He called me names I have never been called before or since. The very first time I played in Amsterdam was 2 years ago this is a fact, I have never ever ever got anybodies family involved in any abuse during poker play. I assert that you have made this up which is very sad. As for somebody giving you 25k to play me its great I can tell you one thing: I will play any game you can name for any amount you can count. Title: Re: "The W*****" replies... Post by: TonyG on November 30, 2005, 12:04:17 PM I would like somebody to come and say that they have heard me swear during any poker tournament or cash games or have evey seen me abuse the dealer in any form what so ever. If anyone continues to make things up I will respond to you like I will respond to the Camel.
Title: Re: "The W*****" replies... Post by: AndrewT on November 30, 2005, 12:26:17 PM *pulls up chair*
*opens popcorn* Title: Re: "The W*****" replies... Post by: Nem on November 30, 2005, 12:27:16 PM Title: Re: "The W*****" replies... Post by: ukpokerinfo on November 30, 2005, 12:34:01 PM I would like somebody to come and say that they have heard me swear during any poker tournament or cash games or have evey seen me abuse the dealer in any form what so ever. If anyone continues to make things up I will respond to you like I will respond to the Camel. seems to me that you are being affected by the online version of your own methods when at the table - and its affecting you by you responding. I thought you would have seen this and not took the bait? Title: Re: "The W*****" replies... Post by: Karabiner on November 30, 2005, 12:44:13 PM What's the over/under on last posts ?
Title: Re: "The W*****" replies... Post by: Robert HM on November 30, 2005, 01:22:16 PM http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/
Title: Re: "The W*****" replies... Post by: Nem on November 30, 2005, 01:24:46 PM Title: Re: "The W*****" replies... Post by: TightEnd on November 30, 2005, 01:45:13 PM What's the over/under on last posts ? the current blonde record is 1825 posts I'm in the region of 125-127 on this thread, for play money only Title: Re: "The W*****" replies... Post by: The Camel on November 30, 2005, 01:47:53 PM as for somebody giving you 25k to play me its great I can tell you one thing: I will play any game you can name for any amount you can count. I choose sumo wrestling. For 50p. Title: Re: "The W*****" replies... Post by: snoopy1239 on November 30, 2005, 01:55:41 PM as for somebody giving you 25k to play me its great I can tell you one thing: I will play any game you can name for any amount you can count. I choose sumo wrestling. For 50p. Good choice. I'd raise the stakes though. ;) Title: Re: "The W*****" replies... Post by: doubleup on November 30, 2005, 02:36:41 PM Have you seen the price of nappies?? I know that you do re-raise quite a lot with marginal hands - but surely nappies can't be required? Title: Re: "The W*****" replies... Post by: snoopy1239 on November 30, 2005, 02:43:17 PM How can he do the sum if he doesn't spalsh out on the nappies?
Title: Re: "The W*****" replies... Post by: Royal Flush on November 30, 2005, 02:54:53 PM http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/ Brilliant!! Tony i thought you were not posting anymore? Title: Re: "The W*****" replies... Post by: wsopin07 on November 30, 2005, 03:07:09 PM I would like to be the dealer for this heads up battle, that is if the dealer will be allowed to be " a loud american w/ no clue"
Lets do it on a live web broadcast on blondepoker.com and donate some of the $$$$$$$ to game for life, maybe that can put this subject where it belongs, dead and buried. People always have disagreements, they usually get blown out of proportion, people usually hold grudges for years over VERY STUPID and trivial stuff. I would really like to see someting positive come from this, the people of blonde should not need to watch a train wreck, they should want to help the problem. Lets come up w/ a solution to help Tont G, the Camel, maybe even help a charity! Lets do some good, anyone can help keep bad blood going, show me something different. This could be fun, helpful, and maybe even good for people! What do you think!!!!! Title: Re: "The W*****" replies... Post by: Wardonkey on November 30, 2005, 03:10:56 PM How will it be helpful?
What arguements will it resolve? Title: Re: "The W*****" replies... Post by: jezza777 on November 30, 2005, 03:20:01 PM I don't think Brian is trying to solve arguments. Tony G is who he is and so is Keith . What Brian is talking about ( I think) is getting some perspective about all of this dealing with it and moving on. If a good cause benefits then all the better.
Title: Re: "The W*****" replies... Post by: wsopin07 on November 30, 2005, 03:28:53 PM Nobody can resolve it but Tony and Keith, the people of blonde just dont need to take sides or promote bad blood, lets have fun, help people? Maybe a crazy idea??????
I think everyone knows I think Keith is a great guy, but you also need to realize I understand Tony G because we are similar players and personalities. I am sure one day I will make a mistake in judgement and pay a price, I hope it does not happen but when you are emotional and competitive things happen. I am not saying this is waht happened w/ Tony, I am just giving some ideas! The bottom line is that a bunch of "shit talk" on blonde is really not the answer to anything!!!!! Title: Re: "The W*****" replies... Post by: Karabiner on November 30, 2005, 03:32:06 PM If Tony G agrees to the Sumo match with The Camel for 50p.
I will make a donation to charity and change my opinion of Tony G, and provide the salt too. Title: Re: "The W*****" replies... Post by: wsopin07 on November 30, 2005, 03:36:27 PM Tony G
I have not take sides, I do think that you deserve a chance to set things right, I was glad when you came to blonde because like me you make things happen!!!!!! What do you think, if you are interested please PM me and I will contact Keith and see what he says, you have my word that it would be 100% positve, proper, and productive ( maybe even fun and helpful) Title: Re: "The W*****" replies... Post by: The Truth on November 30, 2005, 03:53:22 PM Brian
Just to let you know Game for Life would never turn donations down whether it be from poker, sumo wrestling or naked skydiving. Title: Re: "The W*****" replies... Post by: wsopin07 on November 30, 2005, 04:03:00 PM Brian Just to let you know Game for Life would never turn donations down whether it be from poker, sumo wrestling or naked skydiving. naked skydiving on a live webcam on blondepoker??????? maybe playboy would get involved???? Title: Re: "The W*****" replies... Post by: Colchester Kev on November 30, 2005, 04:07:50 PM I would give good money to see keith and Tony in giant nappies lol and just imagine how much money we could make for P4C if we sold the video footage to Big gay bears .com :)
Title: Re: "The W*****" replies... Post by: TightEnd on November 30, 2005, 04:08:27 PM Unfortunately my other website is skint at the moment.
Title: Re: "The W*****" replies... Post by: The Truth on November 30, 2005, 04:33:58 PM Brian Just to let you know Game for Life would never turn donations down whether it be from poker, sumo wrestling or naked skydiving. naked skydiving on a live webcam on blondepoker??????? maybe playboy would get involved???? surely playgirl - deffo one for the ladies ;tk; Title: Re: "The W*****" replies... Post by: Ironside on November 30, 2005, 06:06:27 PM Brian Just to let you know Game for Life would never turn donations down whether it be from poker, sumo wrestling or naked skydiving. if any ladies want to do the later i will be the judge very happy Title: Re: "The W*****" replies... Post by: snoopy1239 on November 30, 2005, 07:53:05 PM Good to see the new tikay smilie being used...
;tk; ;tk; ;tk; ;tk; ;tk; hehe. poor tikay. Title: Re: "The W*****" replies... Post by: tikay on December 01, 2005, 10:37:13 PM Bloody hilarious. There's a law against ageism you know.
Title: Re: "The W*****" replies... Post by: action man on December 02, 2005, 12:36:21 PM keith i just spotted lord Lucan reading through your blog!!
Title: Re: "The W*****" replies... Post by: booder on November 23, 2009, 02:58:43 PM ;bump;
Title: Re: "The W*****" replies... Post by: Woodsey on November 23, 2009, 03:08:40 PM It's always nice to see someone argue there corner in such a polite and well versed way. Keith your an excelent player (robbing g!t!!) and a great personality at the tables. ive enjoyed donating my chips to you on a couple of occasions. Great response- True Gent What happened to Matt? Last time I saw him he was threatening to break PeteL's legs at DTD.............. Title: Re: "The W*****" replies... Post by: The Camel on November 23, 2009, 03:15:34 PM A fair and measured response after the dust has settled is always far more powerful than a rant of the same strength as the original posting. My mod heart treasures the power of your words, and their intelligence. My real heart respects you even more. Heid xx I was in there for a minute! Title: Re: "The W*****" replies... Post by: TightEnd on November 23, 2009, 03:16:33 PM It's always nice to see someone argue there corner in such a polite and well versed way. Keith your an excelent player (robbing g!t!!) and a great personality at the tables. ive enjoyed donating my chips to you on a couple of occasions. Great response- True Gent What happened to Matt? Last time I saw him he was threatening to break PeteL's legs at DTD.............. Matt has temporarily left playing regular poker to concentrate on his business. I think he's much missed, nice fella Title: Re: "The W*****" replies... Post by: GreekStein on November 23, 2009, 03:33:03 PM I do have to respond, now I do like to remind you Camel that you started the attack not me. Also some of the facts that you state: Well, in Amsterdam about 4 years ago he certainly didn't prove it. He subjected me to a tirade of abuse I have never encountered before. He abused me and my family. He called me names I have never been called before or since. The very first time I played in Amsterdam was 2 years ago this is a fact, I have never ever ever got anybodies family involved in any abuse during poker play. I assert that you have made this up which is very sad. As for somebody giving you 25k to play me its great I can tell you one thing: I will play any game you can name for any amount you can count. Norr Keith never responded to this. Title: Re: "The W*****" replies... Post by: ripple11 on November 23, 2009, 04:34:57 PM It's always nice to see someone argue there corner in such a polite and well versed way. Keith your an excelent player (robbing g!t!!) and a great personality at the tables. ive enjoyed donating my chips to you on a couple of occasions. Great response- True Gent What happened to Matt? Last time I saw him he was threatening to break PeteL's legs at DTD.............. Matt has temporarily left playing regular poker to concentrate on his business. I think he's much missed, nice fella +1 Title: Re: "The W*****" replies... Post by: action man on November 23, 2009, 05:07:08 PM few ghosts on here, brian wilson, heid, davey newth, matt,
Title: Re: "The W*****" replies... Post by: Micko on November 23, 2009, 06:06:47 PM Whatever happened to the great 74 off Wilson?
Title: Re: "The W*****" replies... Post by: action man on November 23, 2009, 06:11:17 PM went skint iirc.
Title: Re: "The W*****" replies... Post by: Micko on November 23, 2009, 06:13:00 PM Not much surprise the way he played.
Title: Re: "The W*****" replies... Post by: turny on November 23, 2009, 06:56:04 PM It's always nice to see someone argue there corner in such a polite and well versed way. Keith your an excelent player (robbing g!t!!) and a great personality at the tables. ive enjoyed donating my chips to you on a couple of occasions. Great response- True Gent What happened to Matt? Last time I saw him he was threatening to break PeteL's legs at DTD.............. Matt has temporarily left playing regular poker to concentrate on his business. I think he's much missed, nice fella +1 one of pokers nice guys Title: Re: "The W*****" replies... Post by: fidget on November 23, 2009, 09:04:16 PM Whatever happened to poker4charity?
Played one of their events in St Helens a good few years ago. I was first out Title: Re: "The W*****" replies... Post by: Nem on November 23, 2009, 09:14:17 PM those were the days...
Title: Re: "The W*****" replies... Post by: The Camel on November 25, 2009, 03:51:25 AM Whatever happened to poker4charity? Played one of their events in St Helens a good few years ago. I was first out I believe it's still going strong. Nice buffets. Title: Re: "The W*****" replies... Post by: AceofWands on November 25, 2009, 12:52:26 PM Whatever happened to poker4charity? Played one of their events in St Helens a good few years ago. I was first out Looking at their website there doesn't appear to have been any events since December 2006 and registration for their forum is disabled. Title: Re: "The W*****" replies... Post by: Ironside on November 25, 2009, 04:50:44 PM Whatever happened to poker4charity? Played one of their events in St Helens a good few years ago. I was first out Looking at their website there doesn't appear to have been any events since December 2006 and registration for their forum is disabled. shame i would of loved to have seen what happened to my school Title: Re: "The W*****" replies... Post by: Karabiner on November 26, 2009, 04:54:57 AM Whatever happened to the great 74 off Wilson? I believe that he's concentrating on reforming The Beach Boys. |