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Title: Tens early in an MTT Post by: MC on March 04, 2009, 09:18:44 PM 1st level of an MTT, 1st round of the table so no reads...
Shove or fold? Played the hand right until then I'm assuming?... ***** Hand 1487253165 ***** 10.00/20.00 Texas Hold'em (No Limit ) - Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:08:27 PM €4,000 Guaranteed (Real /Tournament ) Seat 1: cp0406 (2581.00) Seat 9: Atkinator- (1960.00) Seat 2: plamia (2240.00) Seat 3: ghymes (1970.00) Seat 4: Kurrrrr (3551.00) Seat 5: hukoje (1940.00) Seat 6: giudal (1878.00) Seat 7: Unknown (0.00) Seat 8: tarraga (1780.00) Seat 10: Cápa1973 (2100.00) Cápa1973 post SB 10.00 cp0406 post BB 20.00 ** Deal ** cp0406 [N/A, N/A] Atkinator- [10s, 10c] plamia [N/A, N/A] ghymes [N/A, N/A] Kurrrrr [N/A, N/A] hukoje [N/A, N/A] giudal [N/A, N/A] tarraga [N/A, N/A] Cápa1973 [N/A, N/A] *** Bet Round 1 *** plamia Fold ghymes Fold Kurrrrr Fold hukoje Fold giudal Raise to 70.00 tarraga Fold Atkinator- Raise to 220.00 Cápa1973 Fold cp0406 Fold giudal Call 220.00 *** Flop(Board): *** : [Js, 8c, 2c] *** Bet Round 2 *** giudal Check Atkinator- Bet 300.00 giudal Raise to 600.00 Title: Re: Tens early in an MTT Post by: George2Loose on March 04, 2009, 09:28:02 PM Im a nit early so I probs flat with 10 10
As played I fold unless I have some notes that the guy is bad. Can't even put him on a flush draw cos I think most bad players raise more/shove Title: Re: Tens early in an MTT Post by: GreekStein on March 04, 2009, 09:34:42 PM I dont like the raise here pre. Def a flat for me.
I think the flop is a pass because we can't really call without a plan for turn/river unless we have info on villain and are prepared to stack off here which seems horrible Title: Re: Tens early in an MTT Post by: MC on March 04, 2009, 09:46:38 PM While I agree that calling is certainly a viable option, maybe even a default, I don't see how 3 betting tens on the button to a lone MP raiser can be wrong??
Title: Re: Tens early in an MTT Post by: AlexMartin on March 05, 2009, 03:09:07 AM While I agree that calling is certainly a viable option, maybe even a default, I don't see how 3 betting tens on the button to a lone MP raiser can be wrong?? i dont think its that bad at all, but firstly, what are you gonna do if he 4bets pre? thats why i hate the 3b personally this shallow, obv in a deepstack comp staandard. . Title: Re: Tens early in an MTT Post by: indefatigable on March 05, 2009, 05:19:04 AM Yes you are right, I dont think its that bad at all, but guess like the flop is a pass and should be prepared to stack off..
Title: Re: Tens early in an MTT Post by: action man on March 05, 2009, 10:07:13 AM its a flat
Title: Re: Tens early in an MTT Post by: GreekStein on March 05, 2009, 10:09:13 AM Title: Re: Tens early in an MTT Post by: kukushkin88 on March 05, 2009, 11:13:24 AM Pre flop not post, flatting post flop just makes no sense with the stack sizes, both stacks are pretty much committed to any turn.
Title: Re: Tens early in an MTT Post by: GreekStein on March 05, 2009, 11:15:01 AM Pre flop not post, flatting post flop just makes no sense with the stack sizes, both stacks are pretty much committed to any turn. Exactly my thinking. Just making sure! Title: Re: Tens early in an MTT Post by: action man on March 05, 2009, 12:05:34 PM lol preflop flat ldo, flop c/c ldo. U see what we have done <------- here is keep the pot rly tiny as its the 1st level.
Title: Re: Tens early in an MTT Post by: AlexMartin on March 05, 2009, 12:07:10 PM as played im not folding.....
Title: Re: Tens early in an MTT Post by: action man on March 05, 2009, 12:09:39 PM level?
Title: Re: Tens early in an MTT Post by: daviebhoy on March 05, 2009, 12:17:30 PM I probably fold just because it is 1st level and I have no idea where I am. It must be marginal whether to shove or fold so fold has to be better equity wise ?
Title: Re: Tens early in an MTT Post by: neverbluff67 on March 05, 2009, 05:51:24 PM This is a 100% flat pre,
proceed with caution post flop only try to get it in if you hit a T. As played just fold. Title: Re: Tens early in an MTT Post by: MC on March 06, 2009, 01:45:01 AM as played im not folding..... I prescribed to this theory. I shoved and he had JJ. lol. I really botched this hand, thanks for your thoughts, will play small ball next time... Title: Re: Tens early in an MTT Post by: AlexMartin on March 06, 2009, 03:00:26 AM as played im not folding..... I prescribed to this theory. I shoved and he had JJ. lol. I really botched this hand, thanks for your thoughts, will play small ball next time... i meant that i hate bet/folding. but i just hate all ur options really once u 3b pre and bet the flop, we end up putting in over 25% of our stack and when i played around with a reasonable range we were always had enough equity to warrant getting it in. but trigger showed me i was wrong in an early morning chitchat. Title: Re: Tens early in an MTT Post by: MC on March 06, 2009, 02:32:54 PM i meant that i hate bet/folding. but i just hate all ur options really once u 3b pre and bet the flop, we end up putting in over 25% of our stack and when i played around with a reasonable range we were always had enough equity to warrant getting it in. but trigger showed me i was wrong in an early morning chitchat. Yeah I understand this man, sometimes I think playing a lot of heads up hinders my judgment if I play a one off full ring game on the side. Btw, you haven't responded to my PMs man, are you grimming me? Lol ;) Title: Re: Tens early in an MTT Post by: AlexMartin on March 06, 2009, 03:42:58 PM i meant that i hate bet/folding. but i just hate all ur options really once u 3b pre and bet the flop, we end up putting in over 25% of our stack and when i played around with a reasonable range we were always had enough equity to warrant getting it in. but trigger showed me i was wrong in an early morning chitchat. Yeah I understand this man, sometimes I think playing a lot of heads up hinders my judgment if I play a one off full ring game on the side. Btw, you haven't responded to my PMs man, are you grimming me? Lol ;) ul, ur not the 1st and u wont be the last. Title: Re: Tens early in an MTT Post by: MC on March 06, 2009, 06:33:10 PM [x ] ul, ur not the 1st and u wont be the last. Lol, just be sure you don't scarper ;technolog; (underused smillie imo) Title: Re: Tens early in an MTT Post by: boldie on March 06, 2009, 09:25:38 PM i meant that i hate bet/folding. but i just hate all ur options really once u 3b pre and bet the flop, we end up putting in over 25% of our stack and when i played around with a reasonable range we were always had enough equity to warrant getting it in. but trigger showed me i was wrong in an early morning chitchat. Yeah I understand this man, sometimes I think playing a lot of heads up hinders my judgment if I play a one off full ring game on the side. I found this to be very true. When I mainly played HU on HP I thought everyone was bluffing or had missed the flop and were betting with Ace high and that that's why I was shit at MTTs. [ ] I was just shit at MTTs [X] I was just shit at poker in general. [X] Still am :( Title: Re: Tens early in an MTT Post by: Royal Flush on March 07, 2009, 12:05:46 AM [ ] Alex is a speedy debt payer.
Title: Re: Tens early in an MTT Post by: MC on March 07, 2009, 12:44:32 AM I found this to be very true. When I mainly played HU on HP I thought everyone was bluffing or had missed the flop and were betting with Ace high and that that's why I was shit at MTTs. [ ] I was just shit at MTTs [X] I was just shit at poker in general. [X] Still am :( [ ] Sympathises a lot [X] Sympathises a little Think I will stop playing MTTs alongside heads ups so I'm at least in the right mind-set! Don't worry James I'll set the knee-cappers on Alex soon ;) |