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Title: matrix turbo with jacks Post by: Ironside on March 06, 2009, 09:29:16 PM *** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to IronsideBLONDE [Jd Jh] Felipe Ignacio folds okchuckles calls 30 SMURFLICKER calls 30 IronsideBLONDE raises to 165 Fantaspastic has 15 seconds left to act Fantaspastic folds dibrownio raises to 360 normalnorm18 folds rappi19 folds BossSTIK has 15 seconds left to act BossSTIK folds okchuckles folds SMURFLICKER folds IronsideBLONDE calls 195 *** FLOP *** [9s Ah 9h] IronsideBLONDE checks dibrownio checks *** TURN *** [9s Ah 9h] [8s] i think its pretty standard to here his check on flop hints that he is sittting on a PP only 3rd hand into the matrix so sorry tank no real read your ruling out eights nines and jacks and think that the reraise is not likely with anything smallers you you have him on queens or kings can you steal this pot or should you check it down or check/fold Title: Re: matrix turbo with jacks Post by: gatso on March 06, 2009, 09:31:23 PM sigh, post the bloody stack sizes
Title: Re: matrix turbo with jacks Post by: Ironside on March 06, 2009, 09:33:32 PM arggggggggghhhhh tilt didnt give them to me
its 3 hands in we all have 1500 there hasnt been any action yet Title: Re: matrix turbo with jacks Post by: thetank on March 06, 2009, 09:51:25 PM fold to 3-bet pre is ok, I lean towards folding because JJ is horrible OOP.
Sometimes I have read that player is 3-betting often, in which case I might pop it up and go all-in pre. Calling is only ever ok if you pretty much have the odds to set mine. check call post flop can be ok check fold post flop can be ok too (which line you take will depend on various factors) Trying to bet to steal the pot from either QQ or KK is very much not the way to go. There's no way we can put him on such a well defined range at this point. Even if our read was killer, KK and QQ might still call. Never bet this. Title: Re: matrix turbo with jacks Post by: Ironside on March 06, 2009, 10:08:48 PM fold to 3-bet pre is ok, I lean towards folding because JJ is horrible OOP. Sometimes I have read that player is 3-betting often, in which case I might pop it up and go all-in pre. Calling is only ever ok if you pretty much have the odds to set mine. check call post flop can be ok check fold post flop can be ok too (which line you take will depend on various factors) Trying to bet to steal the pot from either QQ or KK is very much not the way to go. There's no way we can put him on such a well defined range at this point. Even if our read was killer, KK and QQ might still call. Never bet this. here was me waiting for flushy to tell me to shove pre Title: Re: matrix turbo with jacks Post by: thetank on March 06, 2009, 10:13:58 PM This probably isn't a shove against an unknown player 3 betting into you in a matrix comp.
Nit folding ftw Title: Re: matrix turbo with jacks Post by: Blatch on March 07, 2009, 03:25:16 PM Shovng is deffo not the way to go early days in these Turbo Matrix.
Standard is pretty bad and those 1 pointers add up. Title: Re: matrix turbo with jacks Post by: dousche on March 09, 2009, 02:08:55 AM has to be a fold pre imo. with jacks oop youre very rarely getting the chips in good after calling flatting pre.
Title: Re: matrix turbo with jacks Post by: Longy on March 09, 2009, 03:13:34 AM Shove or fold pre, calling is the worst option. My default is to fold unless i have a read.
Title: Re: matrix turbo with jacks Post by: EvilPie on March 09, 2009, 11:30:01 AM Raise less pre. At least then you'll get better odds to set mine if you get reraised.
You raise to 90, he repops to 220. It's 130 to call to win 1600ish. Not ideal but better than over committing. 11% of your stack is way too much first level. As played I'd probably make a stubborn shove and lose. I think the correct play though is to pass. Title: Re: matrix turbo with jacks Post by: Longy on March 09, 2009, 11:53:30 AM With two limpers already in the pot, i think his raise size is fine (he has just pressed the pot button on Full (http://blondepoker.com/index.php?q=node/12206)Tilt (http://blondepoker.com/index.php?q=node/12206)) i would have made it 150 then.
Even if it did go 90 and then repop to 210, i still think it is shove or fold. You aren't deep enough to set mine and you are pretty much going to have to soul read villian on a bunch of flops to make it profitable oop. Title: Re: matrix turbo with jacks Post by: action man on March 10, 2009, 01:41:18 AM i read "turbo" and "JJ" and assumed it was a level
Title: Re: matrix turbo with jacks Post by: Ironside on March 10, 2009, 02:34:35 AM i read "turbo" and "JJ" and assumed it was a level thats what i was expecting turbo jacks get them in by turbo it is 3 minute blinds |