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Title: 77 in BB - 17BBs Post by: daviebhoy on March 16, 2009, 03:18:32 PM A friend and myself have been discussing a hand he played at the weekend. I think he played the hand fine but he isn't so sure. I can see cases for pushing, folding and calling here as stacks are awkward. I wondered what the concensus on here would be.
Its a 1 table SNG on pokerstars. Hero has 1700. Blinds are 50/100. 8 players left. All folds round to the button (2300) who min raises. Hero has 77 ?........ Title: Re: 77 in BB - 17BBs Post by: George2Loose on March 16, 2009, 03:22:13 PM not enough info to make an analysis. IOther stack sizes- is it a turbo or regular- how active has cl been? etc etc
Title: Re: 77 in BB - 17BBs Post by: daviebhoy on March 16, 2009, 03:32:34 PM not enough info to make an analysis. IOther stack sizes- is it a turbo or regular- how active has cl been? etc etc He doesn't have the other stack sizes handy. It was a turbo. Guy had been TAGy and stealing blinds twice before. Title: Re: 77 in BB - 17BBs Post by: kukushkin88 on March 16, 2009, 03:54:46 PM Shoving>>folding>>>>>>>calling.
Title: Re: 77 in BB - 17BBs Post by: amcgrath1uk on March 16, 2009, 03:58:05 PM Title: Re: 77 in BB - 17BBs Post by: GreekStein on March 16, 2009, 04:06:53 PM punish him - make it 300.
Title: Re: 77 in BB - 17BBs Post by: MC on March 16, 2009, 05:15:21 PM punish him - make it 300. ^^lol ;) Looks like a shove without any extra info.... Title: Re: 77 in BB - 17BBs Post by: daviebhoy on March 16, 2009, 05:50:55 PM He did shove. I think its the right play aswell but suggested seeing what the concensus was on here as he wasn't sure after villain called with AQ and flop came 9JQAA......
Title: Re: 77 in BB - 17BBs Post by: action man on March 16, 2009, 05:52:43 PM zomg, a flip/beat thread from a <$20 SnG, how low has this board become. 50p in the tin son
Title: Re: 77 in BB - 17BBs Post by: AlexMartin on March 16, 2009, 06:00:48 PM mate give ppl a chance, hes interested in discussion of a hand, why kill him?
Title: Re: 77 in BB - 17BBs Post by: action man on March 16, 2009, 06:07:12 PM its not discussion. They both think the shove is correct. It is correct... waste of paper imo
Title: Re: 77 in BB - 17BBs Post by: TightEnd on March 16, 2009, 06:08:00 PM as others have said calling isn't really an option
don't know about other stack sizes but probably 1700 is at the low end I would think Against a late raiser I think shove rather than fold in a turbo Title: Re: 77 in BB - 17BBs Post by: AlexMartin on March 16, 2009, 06:42:20 PM A friend and myself have been discussing a hand he played at the weekend. I think he played the hand fine but he isn't so sure. I can see cases for pushing, folding and calling here as stacks are awkward. I wondered what the concensus on here would be. Its a 1 table SNG on pokerstars. Hero has 1700. Blinds are 50/100. 8 players left. All folds round to the button (2300) who min raises. Hero has 77 ?........ fwiw all options have serious merit imo. Title: Re: 77 in BB - 17BBs Post by: TheChipPrince on March 16, 2009, 06:47:48 PM Is calling that terrible? We still have 15 BB's behind and it only wins us 3 1/2 BB's when he folds, If he calls we're never better than 55/45...
Discuss. Title: Re: 77 in BB - 17BBs Post by: TightEnd on March 16, 2009, 06:48:56 PM Is calling that terrible? We still have 15 BB's behind and it only wins us 3 1/2 BB's when he folds, If he calls we're never better than 55/45... Discuss. assuming you miss the majority of times, what is your plan post flop? fire on a dry board? check fold on a wet board? Title: Re: 77 in BB - 17BBs Post by: TheChipPrince on March 16, 2009, 06:52:09 PM Is calling that terrible? We still have 15 BB's behind and it only wins us 3 1/2 BB's when he folds, If he calls we're never better than 55/45... Discuss. assuming you miss the majority of times, what is your plan post flop? fire on a dry board? check fold on a wet board? Thats about bang-on i suppose, crai with one over would be a general line i think for me, check fold to a paint-tastic board. I think everyone agrees the shove is best, there is no debate there, but I'm adamant the call is not horrible. Title: Re: 77 in BB - 17BBs Post by: AlexMartin on March 16, 2009, 06:54:09 PM Is calling that terrible? We still have 15 BB's behind and it only wins us 3 1/2 BB's when he folds, If he calls we're never better than 55/45... Discuss. assuming you miss the majority of times, what is your plan post flop? fire on a dry board? check fold on a wet board? Thats about bang-on i suppose, crai with one over would be a general line i think for me, check fold to a paint-tastic board. I think everyone agrees the shove is best, there is no debate there, but I'm adamant the call is not horrible. yeah, its very player dependant. v a weak tight player for example, call is better than shove. Title: Re: 77 in BB - 17BBs Post by: daviebhoy on March 16, 2009, 11:30:08 PM I don't think I've posted on a thread and not got abuse yet ;-)
I think this is an excellent resource for learning and discussing hands and I appreciate the comments. I know this does seem like a trivial situation. I thought the same to begin with and think I shove here 100% of the time. But, I think now we might be able to do better against some opponents by calling and even sometimes folding here depending on opponent. Title: Re: 77 in BB - 17BBs Post by: dousche on March 17, 2009, 02:07:59 AM anyone go 550 and pass to 4-bet? (firing out 700ish on any flop)
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