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Title: Should i fold to his 8-bet jam? Post by: Royal Flush on March 17, 2009, 04:06:30 AM PokerStars Game #26047429996: Tournament #147626094, $70+$7 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2009/03/17 4:02:39 WET [2009/03/17 0:02:39 ET]
Table '147626094 14' 6-max Seat #6 is the button Seat 1: muvrini (2800 in chips) Seat 2: upay4mytreez (2990 in chips) Seat 3: DeathN0te L (3340 in chips) Seat 4: royalbluff (3000 in chips) Seat 5: MKKMOO (2970 in chips) Seat 6: GOHAB$ (2900 in chips) muvrini: posts small blind 10 upay4mytreez: posts big blind 20 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to MKKMOO [4d 3d] DeathN0te L: folds royalbluff: calls 20 MKKMOO: raises 60 to 80 GOHAB$: folds muvrini: folds upay4mytreez: folds royalbluff: calls 60 *** FLOP *** [ Td 3h 3c] royalbluff: checks MKKMOO: bets 80 royalbluff: raises 80 to 160 MKKMOO: raises 80 to 240 royalbluff: raises 80 to 320 MKKMOO: raises 80 to 400 royalbluff: raises 266 to 666 MKKMOO: raises 266 to 932 royalbluff: raises 1988 to 2920 and is all-in MKKMOO: calls 1958 and is all-in Uncalled bet (30) returned to royalbluff *** TURN *** [td 3h 3c] [Qs] *** RIVER *** [td 3h 3c Qs] [8h] *** SHOW DOWN *** royalbluff: shows [Ts Th] (a full house, Tens full of Threes) MKKMOO: shows [4d 3d] (three of a kind, Threes) royalbluff collected 5970 from pot *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 5970 | Rake 0 Board [td 3h 3c Qs 8h] Seat 1: muvrini (small blind) folded before Flop Seat 2: upay4mytreez (big blind) folded before Flop Seat 3: DeathN0te L folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 4: royalbluff showed [Ts Th] and won (5970) with a full house, Tens full of Threes Seat 5: MKKMOO showed [4d 3d] and lost with three of a kind, Threes Seat 6: GOHAB$ (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Title: Re: Should i fold to his 8-bet jam? Post by: Newmanseye on March 17, 2009, 04:30:04 AM the betting increments seem to be small, even so, I think the 4 x bet rule still applies, if it gets to 4 x bet back to you, there is a serious hand out there, even if he has AA preflop i dont see how he can feel his hand is good when you start a cock waving contest with a board the way it is. from your position i would be concerned,
However in the heat of the moment ( spot the Asia reference ) i think its tough to get away as your initial instinct is to get them in here asap. although factors that would play a part for me here are, my table image and previous action with this player, With this being level 1 i doubt there has been much action previous to this. Also,level 1 and its the small blind thats coming along for a 4 x the bb raise, pf, thats usually a playable hand, sb usually completes or folds unless its blind on blind. WTF!!! your the bloke with the money, you know the answer to this! i think you just wanted to post a SIKK hand ! £50 in the tin son. Title: Re: Should i fold to his 8-bet jam? Post by: GreekStein on March 17, 2009, 09:23:48 AM I think you should flat the 5th raise, for deception obviously.
Title: Re: Should i fold to his 8-bet jam? Post by: EvilPie on March 17, 2009, 11:35:03 AM Awesome hand
I'm impressed with the 8 bet jam by Royalbluff. He obviously knew he'd finally got you. To be fair you probably should pass here because he has got to have you beat. TT, 3x where x>4 are all he can have imo. Unfortunately it looks like you were enjoying yourself too much and had no choice but to call. Title: Re: Should i fold to his 8-bet jam? Post by: kinboshi on March 17, 2009, 11:36:58 AM A pass there would be quality.
Title: Re: Should i fold to his 8-bet jam? Post by: thetank on March 17, 2009, 11:37:25 AM I don't see the point in 7-betting tbh, unless you're folding to the 8-bet, and then the 7-bet looks like a wizard play (but I'm still not sure it makes sense).
Think a fold would be fine here. If I always folded 7-bets to 8-bets with non-nut holdings (assuming I didn't have odds to bink) then it probably wouldn't be a bad thing. Most of the time when I 7-bet I would quite welcome an 8-bet, so folding to the odd 8-bet bluff here and there wouldn't be the end of the world. Mind you... [ ] have ever 7-bet in my life. [ ] understand wtf is going on in this hand. [ x ] best guess is that you couldn't be assed using the bet slider ??? Title: Re: Should i fold to his 8-bet jam? Post by: EvilPie on March 17, 2009, 11:45:24 AM Did you think you were playing limit by any chance?
Title: Re: Should i fold to his 8-bet jam? Post by: Cf on March 17, 2009, 02:52:54 PM Would be absolute comedy if this was TT vs 33
Title: Re: Should i fold to his 8-bet jam? Post by: Nem on March 17, 2009, 02:55:11 PM [X] teh lulz
Title: Re: Should i fold to his 8-bet jam? Post by: AlexMartin on March 18, 2009, 01:17:18 AM haha. fold would be sooooo good.
Title: Re: Should i fold to his 8-bet jam? Post by: NoflopsHomer on March 18, 2009, 02:51:46 PM HH would be so much better if it had a quote from Flushy at the bottom saying, "I didn't think you had it."
Title: Re: Should i fold to his 8-bet jam? Post by: Newmanseye on March 18, 2009, 07:38:12 PM James, whats your own self analysis of this hand with hindsight, you think you can fold? think you could have played it differently ?
Title: Re: Should i fold to his 8-bet jam? Post by: Royal Flush on March 18, 2009, 07:40:17 PM I thought it was pretty damn funny! Obv by the time he jams i know i am fucked but what difference, in hindsight its funnier to pass to the 8 bet so i will do that next time.
Played another good one last night where i tried to induce a 6 bet bluff pre flop. |