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Title: Did I play this bad?... Post by: MC on March 18, 2009, 09:13:09 PM Any arguments for open-folding the flop here? Maybe even preflop? Can't help thinking I donked off over 3k when I was unlikely to be good...
***** Hand 1509514494 ***** 150.00/300.00 Texas Hold'em (No Limit ) - Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:06:37 PM DEEPSTACK €3,500 GTD (Real /Tournament ) Seat 1: Atkinator- (19650.00) Seat 2: 12jackoffs (5866.00) Seat 3: Lvries (7069.00) Seat 4: somkovsky (20640.00) Seat 5: rocker24 (12530.00) Seat 6: Eoro1712 (8175.00) Seat 7: Lana666 (5615.00) Seat 8: hanson7 (5132.00) Seat 9: Unknown (0.00) Seat 10: Unknown (0.00) Atkinator- post SB 150.00 12jackoffs post BB 300.00 ** Deal ** Atkinator- [As, Qh] 12jackoffs [N/A, N/A] Lvries [N/A, N/A] somkovsky [N/A, N/A] rocker24 [N/A, N/A] Eoro1712 [N/A, N/A] Lana666 [N/A, N/A] hanson7 [N/A, N/A] *** Bet Round 1 *** Lvries Fold somkovsky Call 300.00 rocker24 Raise to 600.00 Eoro1712 Call 600.00 Lana666 Fold hanson7 Fold Atkinator- Call 600.00 12jackoffs Call 600.00 somkovsky Call 600.00 *** Flop(Board): *** : [8d, 4c, Ac] *** Bet Round 2 *** Atkinator- Check 12jackoffs Check somkovsky Check rocker24 Bet 900.00 Eoro1712 Fold Atkinator- Raise to 3000.00 12jackoffs Fold somkovsky All-in 20040.00 rocker24 All-in 11930.00 Atkinator- Fold Title: Re: Did I play this bad?... Post by: Newmanseye on March 18, 2009, 09:19:57 PM folding pre is kinds daft as no action tells you you have the worst of it, on the flop I think you got off cheap. rocker saved you chips. the reraise on the flop could have been different and achieved the same result. Although i cant find a comfy number, 1200 - 1600 range, sets the reraise standard and you saved 4 - 5 blinds.
Title: Re: Did I play this bad?... Post by: MC on March 18, 2009, 09:24:09 PM folding pre is kinds daft as no action tells you you have the worst of it, on the flop I think you got off cheap. rocker saved you chips. the reraise on the flop could have been different and achieved the same result. Although i cant find a comfy number, 1200 - 1600 range, sets the reraise standard and you saved 4 - 5 blinds. Yeah good point about the re-raise. Your reasoning is the reason I did call, however I couldn't help thinking playing this pot oop against several players when there was a min-raise to a limper would be tricky unless I flopped a monster. This kinda flop was the reason folding crossed my mind... Title: Re: Did I play this bad?... Post by: LeKnave on March 18, 2009, 09:31:06 PM raize pre.
Title: Re: Did I play this bad?... Post by: RichardL on March 21, 2009, 01:50:49 PM i would 3 bet pre and get it in if he shoved (unless the ep limper shoves)
I wouldnt ever respect the min raiser for a big hand here, after he min raises over a limper. 3 bet pre, and be happy to get it in vs the pre flop raisor i think. 3 bet/fold vs any aggression action from players other than the pre flop raisor Title: Re: Did I play this bad?... Post by: GlasgowBandit on March 21, 2009, 03:28:44 PM raize pre. This. Bearing in mind if Le Knave did he'd probably bink a QQQ flop. Title: Re: Did I play this bad?... Post by: MC on March 21, 2009, 05:36:08 PM I wouldnt ever respect the min raiser for a big hand here Really? I was sure this was strong at the time. Hadn't seen him make a raise previously to this. I know people in STT's do this with stuff like KT, but in a deepstack tourney with antes involved and against an early postion limp, from early position, i thought this was a donk with a premium... I was much closer to folding pre than 3 betting considering we're in the small blind. On the button I could understand. The original raiser is deep, and a raise to 2k when it looks like we could get 2 callers with AQ off seems undesirable? Title: Re: Did I play this bad?... Post by: LeKnave on March 21, 2009, 05:41:06 PM I was much closer to folding pre than 3 betting considering we're in the small blind. On the button I could understand. The original raiser is deep, and a raise to 2k when it looks like we could get 2 callers with AQ off seems undesirable? ahhhh iv misread the hand HH, i thought ud limped behind, yeah i prob prefer a flat pre in that case. Title: Re: Did I play this bad?... Post by: Nem on March 22, 2009, 01:43:24 AM |