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Title: Turn line v decent reg.
Post by: AlexMartin on March 22, 2009, 02:51:05 AM
Villain, gabian on betfair, decent TAG with flair. I didnt raise pre as i was planning to limp 3bet, but on another table i 3bet him and didnt want him to 4b here....

Flop obv i cr to abuse a high cbet frequency, turn im interested in peoples thoughts.

***** Hand History for Game 498861859 *****
$500.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, March 22, 02:08:45 ET 2009
Table Nitrogen 68 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Seat 1: 810clubs ( $492.50 USD )
Seat 2: al cacao ( $0.00 USD )
Seat 3: 344852 ( $456.10 USD )
Seat 4: JammyJenny ( $538.90 USD )
Seat 5: Gabian ( $587.50 USD )
Seat 6: Bolikk ( $1327.34 USD )
JammyJenny posts small blind [$2.50 USD].
Gabian posts big blind [$5.00 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to JammyJenny [  6s 7s ]
Bolikk folds
810clubs folds
JammyJenny calls [$2.50 USD]
Gabian raises [$12.00 USD]
JammyJenny calls [$12.00 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5s, Qd, 8c ]
JammyJenny checks
Gabian bets [$25.00 USD]
JammyJenny raises [$55.00 USD]
Gabian calls [$30.00 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6h ]


Title: Re: Turn line v decent reg.
Post by: NoflopsHomer on March 22, 2009, 03:27:41 AM
bet/3bet shove seems good.


Title: Re: Turn line v decent reg.
Post by: pokerfan on March 22, 2009, 09:35:27 AM
go for the 3 street check raise


Title: Re: Turn line v decent reg.
Post by: doubleup on March 22, 2009, 09:48:20 AM
Why the limit sized flop c-r?  (or I am misreading the HH )


Title: Re: Turn line v decent reg.
Post by: AlexMartin on March 22, 2009, 11:54:03 AM
Why the limit sized flop c-r?  (or I am misreading the HH )

setup more fold equity for a triple barrel if required....


Title: Re: Turn line v decent reg.
Post by: gribbo on March 22, 2009, 02:13:44 PM
I don't play these limits online but what are you trying to represent on the flop? Are you not gona be opening a ton of your Q7+  hands from the SB against this guy? On the flop obv if u say the guy is c-betting a ton you are drawing to the nuts so a c/r is cool. Are you willing to stack off on the turn against this guy? Would u play the hand different if u were both 100bb instead of the deeper stacks u guys both have/against a fish 100bb deep? What stats do you have/generally run at? Cheers


Title: Re: Turn line v decent reg.
Post by: dousche on March 23, 2009, 03:06:26 AM
bet/3bet shove seems good.

do we have the stack for it? 470 behind with 140 in the pot. leading for 80 doesnt really give room for a 3bet shove with much fold equity. then again we're a little deep for a straight up check raise (that and CRing on flop and turn looks a little weird). it feels like leading out takes the pot quite often against a lot of 1-pair hands here so this line is probably right, even if the stacks are a little kooky.

i realise after all that typing that +1 would have sufficed, but it would have been a shame to have deleted all my hard work


Title: Re: Turn line v decent reg.
Post by: doubleup on March 23, 2009, 06:49:16 PM
Why the limit sized flop c-r?  (or I am misreading the HH )

setup more fold equity for a triple barrel if required....

hmmmm fold equity you say...

check call turn, push river - he won't like that one bit.



Title: Re: Turn line v decent reg.
Post by: AlexMartin on March 23, 2009, 10:12:36 PM
turn i bet $75, he raises to $210, i shoved with close to no fold equity and felt like a plum.

as dousche says, stacks are so horrible for 3b/3bai. wish i had thought of doubleups spewbag at the time, as it was i did b/3b and didnt get there against an oddly played AQ. I guess i never saw him raising the turn with this type of holding, good play or spew by him?



Title: Re: Turn line v decent reg.
Post by: dousche on March 24, 2009, 05:44:52 PM
turn i bet $75, he raises to $210, i shoved with close to no fold equity and felt like a plum.

as dousche says, stacks are so horrible for 3b/3bai. wish i had thought of doubleups spewbag at the time, as it was i did b/3b and didnt get there against an oddly played AQ. I guess i never saw him raising the turn with this type of holding, good play or spew by him?



on a pretty drawless board (you have the only one) i think im calling the turn and river or maybe making a small value bet if you check in his spot. i dont like his line really, it over-reps his hand on a board where he's generally only going to get the money in good when you're marginally behind him - as it happens you had the only hand that his line works well against imo so its either a complete soul-read or more likely a bad line thats worked out for him.


Title: Re: Turn line v decent reg.
Post by: maldini32 on March 24, 2009, 05:50:45 PM
I like the way u think douche. Seen a few of your posts on the pha board and i like em.


Title: Re: Turn line v decent reg.
Post by: dousche on March 24, 2009, 05:54:59 PM
I like the way u think douche. Seen a few of your posts on the pha board and i like em.

 ;D thanks man, if only i could give myself 5 minutes to think about every poker decision i make