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Title: Showdown Post by: LeedsRhodesy on March 23, 2009, 04:53:16 PM What casino do you play in and whats the rule about mucking your cards??? i play in many places and gala in leeds make you show your cards and you cant muck them even in the £200 game Title: Re: Showdown Post by: Robert HM on March 23, 2009, 04:54:51 PM What casino do you play in and whats the rule about mucking your cards??? i play in many places and gala in leeds make you show your cards and you cant muck them even in the £200 game oh if only I could find The Camel's thread, that was fun. Title: Re: Showdown Post by: I KNOW IT on March 23, 2009, 04:56:30 PM Damn I thought this thread was about a meeting between ITB & Rod Paradise ::)
Title: Re: Showdown Post by: LeedsRhodesy on March 23, 2009, 05:00:00 PM i wanna read it now!!!
i played gala leeds on sunday and i mucked my cards twice and both times the people at the table cryed like babys and wanted to see them i asked why they wanted to see my cards and the replay i got was i wanted to see what cards you are playing i said none of you are good Good Enough to remember away should i stop playing crap £15 double chance............... i think i should Title: Re: Showdown Post by: Girgy85 on March 23, 2009, 05:43:48 PM i wanna read it now!!! i played gala leeds on sunday and i mucked my cards twice and both times the people at the table cryed like babys and wanted to see them i asked why they wanted to see my cards and the replay i got was i wanted to see what cards you are playing i said none of you are good Good Enough to remember away should i stop playing crap £15 double chance............... i think i should Agreed!! This rule is so gay!! Title: Re: Showdown Post by: Horneris on March 23, 2009, 05:50:04 PM i played gala leeds on sunday and i mucked my cards twice and both times the people at the table cryed like babys and wanted to see them i asked why they wanted to see my cards and the replay i got was i wanted to see what cards you are playing i said none of you are good Good Enough to remember away haha, QFT Title: Re: Showdown Post by: LeedsRhodesy on March 23, 2009, 05:52:03 PM i played gala leeds on sunday and i mucked my cards twice and both times the people at the table cryed like babys and wanted to see them i asked why they wanted to see my cards and the replay i got was i wanted to see what cards you are playing i said none of you are good Good Enough to remember away haha, QFT thought you might like that one mate! Title: Re: Showdown Post by: thetank on March 23, 2009, 05:56:56 PM Not a big fan of the rule myself. Anti collusion my ass.
I like folding the river in position instead of checking. Then when the donk tries to flip my cards I wham my hand on their wrist and call the floor. Title: Re: Showdown Post by: Acidmouse on March 23, 2009, 06:06:54 PM (http://tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:dELSaJk35JTaiM:http://www.availableforpanto) ?
Title: Re: Showdown Post by: dousche on March 23, 2009, 06:21:59 PM broadway in birmingham have the dumbest set of showdown rules iv ever heard. apparently you can muck your cards on the river, unless the tourney is above a £100 entry, in which case all hands at showdown must be tabled. wtf?
Title: Re: Showdown Post by: LeedsRhodesy on March 23, 2009, 06:25:51 PM broadway in birmingham have the dumbest set of showdown rules iv ever heard. apparently you can muck your cards on the river, unless the tourney is above a £100 entry, in which case all hands at showdown must be tabled. wtf? hahahhahhaha thats so gay!! 9/10 people on the table who asked to see your cards will never used the info anyway Title: Re: Showdown Post by: kenjude on March 24, 2009, 04:18:44 PM Some people even expect you to showdown on cash tables. At DtD on Saturday night on the .50/1 table somebody 4 bet all-in v my aces.
He flipped his hand over when I called, showing the powerhouse that is KQ, and then suggested I wasn't helping the excitement in the game when I declined to turn mine over until ready to claim the pot after the river was shown. Title: Re: Showdown Post by: Girgy85 on March 24, 2009, 04:31:05 PM Some people even expect you to showdown on cash tables. At DT (http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/)D (http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/) on Saturday night on the .50/1 table somebody 4 bet all-in v my aces. He flipped his hand over when I called, showing the powerhouse that is KQ, and then suggested I wasn't helping the excitement in the game when I declined to turn mine over until ready to claim the pot after the river was shown. Its hardly the same as people asking you to show a losing hand in a tournament tho! Cash you can obv muck the losing hand but here with the AA i would turn over my hand to see how is excited look turned sour when his KQ gets smashed to pieces!! Title: Re: Showdown Post by: kenjude on March 24, 2009, 04:39:33 PM I got to see his face fall when I insta-called. He knew :)
Title: Re: Showdown Post by: I KNOW IT on March 24, 2009, 05:20:48 PM broadway in birmingham have the dumbest set of showdown rules iv ever heard. apparently you can muck your cards on the river, unless the tourney is above a £100 entry, in which case all hands at showdown must be tabled. wtf? I think you have that the wrong way round. I asked about the showdown rule there and their reply was. "you can muck in any tourny OVER 100 quid. WTF does the tournament entry fee have anything to do with it ? Title: Re: Showdown Post by: Girgy85 on March 24, 2009, 05:25:45 PM broadway in birmingham have the dumbest set of showdown rules iv ever heard. apparently you can muck your cards on the river, unless the tourney is above a £100 entry, in which case all hands at showdown must be tabled. wtf? I think you have that the wrong way round. I asked about the showdown rule there and their reply was. "you can muck in any tourny OVER 100 quid. WTF does the tournament entry fee have anything to do with it ? Im guessing most people that play in tournaments over £100 have some kind of idea in what and why u are mucking! In a £15 donkfest the muppets just ask u to show either to a) think they can get a read from your hand or b) want to feel like they have made a good call! Title: Re: Showdown Post by: I KNOW IT on March 24, 2009, 05:35:39 PM broadway in birmingham have the dumbest set of showdown rules iv ever heard. apparently you can muck your cards on the river, unless the tourney is above a £100 entry, in which case all hands at showdown must be tabled. wtf? I think you have that the wrong way round. I asked about the showdown rule there and their reply was. "you can muck in any tourny OVER 100 quid. WTF does the tournament entry fee have anything to do with it ? Im guessing most people that play in tournaments over £100 have some kind of idea in what and why u are mucking! In a £15 donkfest the muppets just ask u to show either to a) think they can get a read from your hand or b) want to feel like they have made a good call! The point is the entry fee should have no bearing on the rule. You either are able to muck your hand or you have to show. btw I know of some 15 donkfest players who are better players than some of the 500 quid regulars but dont have the bankroll because of other commitments, so the rule should be consistant throughout Title: Re: Showdown Post by: Girgy85 on March 24, 2009, 05:36:48 PM broadway in birmingham have the dumbest set of showdown rules iv ever heard. apparently you can muck your cards on the river, unless the tourney is above a £100 entry, in which case all hands at showdown must be tabled. wtf? I think you have that the wrong way round. I asked about the showdown rule there and their reply was. "you can muck in any tourny OVER 100 quid. WTF does the tournament entry fee have anything to do with it ? Im guessing most people that play in tournaments over £100 have some kind of idea in what and why u are mucking! In a £15 donkfest the muppets just ask u to show either to a) think they can get a read from your hand or b) want to feel like they have made a good call! The point is the entry fee should have no bearing on the rule. You either are able to muck your hand or you have to show. btw I know of some 15 donkfest players who are better players than the 500 quid regulars but dont have the bankroll because of other commitments, so the rule should be consistant throughout Totally agree!! Title: Re: Showdown Post by: The Camel on March 24, 2009, 05:40:22 PM Was this thread created just to get me angry all over again?!?!?
How the fcuk does showing both players cards stop collusion? If they are colluding one player just has to bet 100 into a 100k pot and the other guy can fold. Asking to see cards is just nosiness and poor etiquette, you've won the pot just take the money and be happy. Title: Re: Showdown Post by: I KNOW IT on March 24, 2009, 05:49:53 PM How the fcuk does showing both players cards stop collusion? If they are colluding one player just has to bet 100 into a 100k pot and the other guy can fold. Asking to see cards is just nosiness and poor etiquette, you've won the pot just take the money and be happy. This Any players colluding and it wouldnt go to showdown Title: Re: Showdown Post by: dousche on March 24, 2009, 06:15:17 PM broadway in birmingham have the dumbest set of showdown rules iv ever heard. apparently you can muck your cards on the river, unless the tourney is above a £100 entry, in which case all hands at showdown must be tabled. wtf? I think you have that the wrong way round. I asked about the showdown rule there and their reply was. "you can muck in any tourny OVER 100 quid. WTF does the tournament entry fee have anything to do with it ? either the TD at the £300 in their last festival got it wrong or theyve changed their rules as i was forced to show a losing hand and this was given as the reason Title: Re: Showdown Post by: Cf on March 24, 2009, 06:50:55 PM Some people even expect you to showdown on cash tables. At DT (http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/)D (http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/) on Saturday night on the .50/1 table somebody 4 bet all-in v my aces. He flipped his hand over when I called, showing the powerhouse that is KQ, and then suggested I wasn't helping the excitement in the game when I declined to turn mine over until ready to claim the pot after the river was shown. Its hardly the same as people asking you to show a losing hand in a tournament tho! Cash you can obv muck the losing hand but here with the AA i would turn over my hand to see how is excited look turned sour when his KQ gets smashed to pieces!! I'd be interested in seeing a quoted rule that differentiates between cash/tourney play with regards to showing cards. particulary mucking at showdown. Apart from the tournament all in rule I'm not convinced there's any difference between the two formats. Solution? If someone tilts you in a tournament by asking to see your cards, go play a cash game afterwards and demand to see theirs, because as far as i'm aware unless there's any specific house rule you have every right to do so. Title: Re: Showdown Post by: dousche on March 24, 2009, 08:29:54 PM Some people even expect you to showdown on cash tables. At DT (http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/)D (http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/) on Saturday night on the .50/1 table somebody 4 bet all-in v my aces. He flipped his hand over when I called, showing the powerhouse that is KQ, and then suggested I wasn't helping the excitement in the game when I declined to turn mine over until ready to claim the pot after the river was shown. Its hardly the same as people asking you to show a losing hand in a tournament tho! Cash you can obv muck the losing hand but here with the AA i would turn over my hand to see how is excited look turned sour when his KQ gets smashed to pieces!! I'd be interested in seeing a quoted rule that differentiates between cash/tourney play with regards to showing cards. particulary mucking at showdown. Apart from the tournament all in rule I'm not convinced there's any difference between the two formats. Solution? If someone tilts you in a tournament by asking to see your cards, go play a cash game afterwards and demand to see theirs, because as far as i'm aware unless there's any specific house rule you have every right to do so. the difference is that the chips are worth differing amounts of money in a tournament so you could theoretically have 5k in chips worth, say £100 to you but £150 to your friend (in terms of tournament equity) so you could give them to your friend for £120. in cash games if you want to give a pot to your mate you might as well give him the cash away from the table. that and at a cash table noone cares if you want to give a mate some chips that being said, how showing both cards at showdown actually stops collusion is pretty unclear but at least its a token effort. Title: Re: Showdown Post by: LeedsRhodesy on March 24, 2009, 08:59:45 PM Was this thread created just to get me angry all over again?!?!? How the fcuk does showing both players cards stop collusion? If they are colluding one player just has to bet 100 into a 100k pot and the other guy can fold. Asking to see cards is just nosiness and poor etiquette, you've won the pot just take the money and be happy. it's aways the same players in leeds who asked to see your cards now i just make sure they hit the muck then say wooops sorry its really pissed them off Title: Re: Showdown Post by: Cf on March 24, 2009, 10:21:56 PM I remember once at moortown I was on the final table in a pot with someone. We got to showdown and I had two pair. He turned over top pair and I threw my hand away face down. He asked the dealer to show my hand, and was not too impressed when the pot was shipped my way.
It was only a small pot, and I was sure he'd ask to see them so I chose this as my method of making a point :) Title: Re: Showdown Post by: thetank on March 24, 2009, 10:25:59 PM I remember once at moortown I was on the final table in a pot with someone. We got to showdown and I had two pair. He turned over top pair and I threw my hand away face down. He asked the dealer to show my hand, and was not too impressed when the pot was shipped my way. It was only a small pot, and I was sure he'd ask to see them so I chose this as my method of making a point :) lol, this is the way forward. good work |