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Title: AA- How's my line and what do you do on the river?
Post by: George2Loose on April 01, 2009, 10:15:29 PM
PokerStars Game #26615448539: Tournament #150908375, $50+$5 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2009/04/01 17:09:32 ET
Table '150908375 51' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: George2Loose (3090 in chips)
Seat 2: superf1sh (2970 in chips)
Seat 3: morbo1 (2950 in chips)
Seat 4: jmsu100 (3410 in chips)
Seat 5: Maniac4Life (3000 in chips)
Seat 6: camo3166 (2850 in chips)
Seat 7: FerryVDG (4220 in chips)
Seat 8: SMI12 (2040 in chips)
Seat 9: kmariok (5470 in chips)
jmsu100: posts small blind 10
Maniac4Life: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to George2Loose [As Ad]
camo3166: calls 20
FerryVDG: folds
SMI12: calls 20
kmariok: folds
George2Loose: raises 80 to 100
superf1sh: folds
morbo1: folds
jmsu100: folds
Maniac4Life: folds
camo3166: calls 80
SMI12: folds
*** FLOP *** [5d 8c 2d]
camo3166: bets 100
George2Loose: raises 200 to 300
camo3166: calls 200
*** TURN *** [5d 8c 2d] [Qd]
camo3166: bets 120
George2Loose: calls 120
*** RIVER *** [5d 8c 2d Qd] [7h]
camo3166: bets 1120
George2Loose: ?


Title: Re: AA- How's my line and what do you do on the river?
Post by: Newmanseye on April 01, 2009, 10:19:49 PM
I opt for the flat call, His flop and turn bets lead me to believe he has mid range pair possiby KQ AQ QX, A call is probably best just incase he played the computer hand.


Title: Re: AA- How's my line and what do you do on the river?
Post by: MC on April 01, 2009, 10:20:05 PM
Raise the turn

Call the river...


Title: Re: AA- How's my line and what do you do on the river?
Post by: GreekStein on April 01, 2009, 10:22:53 PM
fold AA pre imo.


Title: Re: AA- How's my line and what do you do on the river?
Post by: Numpty Dumpty on April 01, 2009, 10:59:08 PM
flat the turn for pot control, plus the Ad is big.

i would flat the river, though it is a very crying call. raise would be horrific, and i think you just about have too little information to pass. if you had raised the turn and he shoved here you could pass, assuming you are not getting massive odds to hit.

interesting though - tough to put him on any other hand than a flush. if he has set surely he bets the turn bigger? if he has just a queen doesnt he pass on the flop? any two pair just shouldnt be seeing the flop. if the flop was  Qc high, with the  8d on the turn it would be much easier to put him on a hand. at the sametime, the lead for 120 is strange with a made flush. can't see him hoping you would come over the top on that turn.

i reckon a fair proportion of the time we are beat, and would be leaning towards a pass if we had any information telling us the guy was solid/good.


Title: Re: AA- How's my line and what do you do on the river?
Post by: MC on April 01, 2009, 11:02:10 PM
Why flat this complete donk bet?

Okay, we want him to hit a diamond, but it's more likely a diamond won't hit, so we want to charge him to hit his potential draw, which surely is the most likely type of hand here...

I'd understand calling for pot control if he'd bet a more reasonable amount, but we've got to assume we're ahead here so I'm pumping it...


Title: Re: AA- How's my line and what do you do on the river?
Post by: George2Loose on April 01, 2009, 11:03:14 PM
I won't post results yet but just to tell you it was my wife who played the hand for me!

I was quite impressed with how she played it tbh!


Title: Re: AA- How's my line and what do you do on the river?
Post by: Numpty Dumpty on April 01, 2009, 11:08:12 PM
Why flat this complete donk bet?

Okay, we want him to hit a diamond, but it's more likely a diamond won't hit, so we want to charge him to hit his potential draw, which surely is the most likely type of hand here...

I'd understand calling for pot control if he'd bet a more reasonable amount, but we've got to assume we're ahead here so I'm pumping it...

because if it is a complete donk bet, and he does have a potential draw, most of the time when he hits we will do so too. what do you think he has? 3-4? 6-7? even if he has one of these hands he still only has 6 outs. much more likely is  Kd 8s or similar, and that could be beautful on a diamond river. against a hand which at worst could be a 12% draw but which we could equally be behind to i like the line of pot control. as i said, the  Ad is massive - it completely changes the line i take

the one bit that throws me is this strange 120 bet, but as i say, any draw he has is thin, so im not too worried

off to bed, but will be interested to see the result of this one tomorrow!


Title: Re: AA- How's my line and what do you do on the river?
Post by: Girgy85 on April 02, 2009, 12:09:45 PM
I won't post results yet but just to tell you it was my wife who played the hand for me!

I was quite impressed with how she played it tbh!

Leave her in charge more often IMO!!  :)up


Title: Re: AA- How's my line and what do you do on the river?
Post by: kinboshi on April 02, 2009, 01:04:50 PM
fold AA pre imo.

;applause;


Title: Re: AA- How's my line and what do you do on the river?
Post by: AlexMartin on April 02, 2009, 02:28:49 PM
Raise the turn

Call the river...

NEVER!


Title: Re: AA- How's my line and what do you do on the river?
Post by: noble1 on April 03, 2009, 04:50:59 AM
i cannot believe this is a decent player judging by the way he has played this hand [it screams donkey] tbh i'd call him and lick my wounds if i'm wrong [still plenty of chips back to recover] the muppet could have anything....

as played i'm fine with this line.....he probably thinks his KQ QJ are good  lol


Title: Re: AA- How's my line and what do you do on the river?
Post by: daviebhoy on April 03, 2009, 01:01:58 PM
I'd raise more on the flop - then I'm calling it down when the Qd hits on the turn.