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Anyone got any bets on ?

I have

Utd win 2-0
Arsenal Villareal 1-1

double

no bets on the games tonight, but i can see the arsenal villareal game being pretty tight

i think manu will run away with there game aswell :P

1st post

:hello:

Welcome to blonde.

3-0 porto

2 tight games IMO

think 1-0 to both Villareal and Manure

Who cares about the Champions League.

WE ARE LEEDS, WE ARE LEEDS, WE ARE LEEDS!!!

Not gona be easy tonight, no Beckford or Sodje and Orient are in form, sigh.

lets gogogogooggo.

we dont need becks. WE'VE GOT ROBERT SNODGRASS

oh dear

Man U appear to be 1-0 down

as do the goons, early days...

Man U are playing as badly as I have seen them play in years, they could be 3 or 4 down by now.

Also how the fk is Clive Tydsley still ITV's main commentator, he talks fluent crap for 90 minutes. He can't even get his facts right, [ ] Jurgen Klinsmann sure is the youngest manager left in the champs league. [ ] Pep Guardiola sure is older than 50.

2-0.

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oioi

FFS Rich, ur such a bok.

2-1 now, if we blow this i will send you to hospital.

And ITV4 managed to miss the equalising goal live :)

It looked okay in replay mind...

norrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr [  ] you sure will

Good chance now for Arsenal to get at least one more tonight in the last 20 minutes and book their semi final place.

die orient.

fk u rich.

wtf is it vs 10 man, crewe nearly did same.

hahaha

we all hate leeds SCUM

Both games nicely set up for the 2nd leg.

die

QFT ruttttterr knows it.

lol @ Sheff Wed.

[ ] gl at Wembley

[  ] we'll make it there

+1

When's Rich get out of LGI?

Shall we send grapes?

Erm, how did this thread end up as a discussion on Leeds (well, a dig at Rich)?  Don't get me wrong, I like Leeds - but this is a CL thread.

Bit of a non-sequitur if you ask me or should that be an oxymoron ???

Leeds fans still live back in the day when they once played a CL game!!

No need to get abusive :D

3-1 liverpool
4-1 barca

Pique goal please!

I don't know what is more amazing, that performance or the fact i picked the right game to watch !!!

Sandy

unreal...just awesome.

All hail Barcelona.

You watching the Rangers game Sandy ?  ;shame;

I'm not even watching the St Mirren game  ;nana;

Sandy

Fergie's mind-games seem to be working a treat :)

Might have to switch though especially if the vidiprinter doesn't put me off soon :)

Sandy

At least Kin and the rest of the mickeys will be quiet tonight.


Dear Rafa

Zonal marking is bollocks, you should have learned that by now.

And why wasnt Gerrard playing tonight ??


Oh hang on, he couldnt play ... he spent the 90 minutes in Essien's pocket ;)

well played Chelsea..better team tonight. Defending was sloppy from the off and rightly punished.

This.

Nothing to do with zonal marking.  Funny how it's never brought up unless a goal is conceded.  When a team man-marks and concedes they never blame the system.  It wasn't systems at fault, it was the bloody players.  Lucky not to have been 4 down at the end.

Gerrard shouldn't have played tonight.  If he wasn't 100%, he should have been rested for the league.  But then Rafa would have been slated for doing that as well.

were we watching the same game ?

Yep what a load of bollox this zonal marking talk is, is it not possible that maybe just maybe an attacker or defender who comes up for a corner can actually make a good run and get on the end of a good cross?

Would be pretty boring if all you had to do was not use the zonal marking then you would never concede according to Kev

[   ] not using zonal marking has worked well for Spurs

We were shit, Chelsea deserved to win. End of.

Zonal marking means you cannot track players who are a bit shrewd with their running ... I am so glad Chelsea won tonight ... you scousers have been getting a bit carried away lately ... hopefully this result will ground you and make you realise just how much you are behind being a class outfit.

Good luck for the rest of the season... xxx

Yes but we are not talking about Spurs are we ... there are enough pages and threads on this forum taking the piss out of Spurs ;)

What offends you so much about Liverpool Kev you seem to get a bee in your bonnet alot about them , what does this stem from?

Trust me, I dislike Chelski a lot more than I dislike the mickeys ...

Chelsea were very good, deserved win.

WD all Blues Fans.

Although I did get a kicking when some mug jumped out of the trees in stanley park followed by a load of his mates ... it was like a scene from Robin hood ffs LOLOLOL


Also I remember going to Anfield before it was all seater, and we were in that shitty little dairy lea triangle shaped away section ... and little kids around 8 or 9 years old were hurling stones at us from the street.

But apart from that .... nothing :)

CHELSEA! CHELSEA! CHELSEA! CHELSEA!


WHO ARE YA, WHO ARE YA, WHO ARE YA!

CAREFREE, WHEREVER YOU MAY BE, WE ARE THE FAMOUS C.F.C, AND WE DONT GIVE A FUCK WHOEVER YOU MAY BE, COZ WE ARE THE FAMOUS C.F.C!

So com how many people hate liverpool coz they've been set about on lololol,great game

IN YOUR LIVERPOOL SLUMS, IN YOUR LIVERPOOL SLUMS!

YOU LOOK THROUGH THE DUSTBIN FOR SOMETHING TO EAT, YOU FIND A DEAD RAT AND YOU THINK ITS A TREAT!

IN YOUR LIVERPOOL SLUMS!

YOU'LL NEVER WORK AGAIN. YOU'LL NEVERRRRRR WORK AGAIN.

SIGN ON SIGN ON.

 ;popcorn;

LOL had fun rooks mate congrats

Oh wait. What? Who's that in Essiens left pocket?

(http://img.skysports.com/09/04/800x600/Branislav-Ivanovic-Liverpool-Chelsea-Champion_2131508.jpg)

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Calm down Rooks, its only half time lol


and even if you do get through, you will have to beat Barca to scoop ... and we all know that aint gonna happen.

FECK OFF KEV. I CAN CHEER IF I WANT. WE BEAT THE SCOUSE MUGS ON THEIR OWN TURF.

YOU CHEER WHEN SPURS WIN, YET WE ALL KNOW THEY ARE SHITE.

fair point .... knock yaself out mate LOLOL

TY.

I THINK ITS ONLY FAIR I GET TO STICK IT BACK AT THE SCOUSERS ON HERE WHO LIKE TO GIVE IT JUST AS MUCH :)

AND IF WE GO THROUGH AFTER THE SECOND LEG, I CAN GIVE IT AGAIN :)

LEAST YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO BE PLEASED ABOUT, THAT THE REF DONE YOU A FAVOUR AND GOT TERRY OUT OF THE SECOND LEG. WE ONLY HAVE CARVAHLO TO BRING IN....

Have to agree with it being more to do with the players failing the system rather than the system failing the players.
WP Essien

Calm down rookie, jeez i'd hate to see you if chelski actually win it this year instead of the usual bottle job

HAHAHAHAHHAA, A BITE.

NICE LITTLE DIG THAT ONE. LIVERPOOL GOT SCHOOLED TONIGHT.

CALM DOWN, CALM DOWN, EH? EH?

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_EFmrTfn-Z0E/R9OYM0oFI6I/AAAAAAAAAHE/R-cwjnfKZkY/s320/scouser.bmp)

I could be wrong but i dont see liverpool fans filling pages with drivel after we win, no one is disputing the fact chelsea played well and deserved the win.Get it quietly imo

[ ] I didnt predict a scouser response after i used the words calm down in my last post

MISSING
Last seen in Liverpool
One bubble - feared burst

Sandy

All the dicks who are on about the zonal marking shit, heres something for u we have conceded the least amount of goals from set pieces in the league this season.
And someone plz kill Lucas. Missed macherano big time tonight.

Chelsea were better and 3-1 was a fair scoreline.

There are about 15x more scousers on this forum than Chelsea fans.

[  ] this thread would only be 6 pages long if liverpoop won 3-1.

I can have my time, i'll get it loudly. k thx.

Oh, btw.. nice betting trigg.



And I also forgot...   [  ] wp leeds

Yes all those years of having the best defence in England, without even having the best personnel should surely have taught you that by now Rafa! What were you thinking?  ;dingdell;

^ This is why Chelsea will never have the worldwide popularity sides like Liverpool, Celtic, Barca and Utd do.

So United fans don't sing songs exactly like this, Liverpool fans don't sing songs about the Munich disaster, Celtic don't sing sectarian songs and Barca fans don't throw pigs head at Real Madrid players.

Maybe he just heard it for the first time?

What you seem to miss is that we gave it after Maureen's desire to belittle a club much bigger than Chelsea in the press before two CL ties - his mistake obv. Most of your fans followed suit and we loved rubbing it in. When you beat us last year you boys did it pretty politely as after two previous losses as you realised for the first time it wasn't a forgone conclusion. If we'd won vs Avram we wouldn't have been half as loud. Look at the thread from last year's semi. No such manners this year it seems.

GG to the Chelsea though. They were better in all departments. For once their midfield turned up vs Gerrard and co which was probably a nice surprise for you no doubt.

They shouldn't, and if I heard a Liverpool fan singing something like that I'd have a word.

but utd sing the exact same song. so will they never have the worldwide popularity of, errrrm, themselves?

Ofc it shouldn't happen Kin, but I have it on pretty good authority that it has happened. Every club has a section of their support that sings songs that are best border line in taste, that was the point i was making.

We all sing filth Longy - no argument from me. (On a good note we have RTK - "who are ya? who are ya?" indeed.)

It's the whole class/money divide that seperates Chelsea from these other sides IMO. And they seem proud of it. 90% of football fans worldwide are working class and will not relate to Chelsea.

I'm not disputing this. I'm talking about relating to the masses.

Fair enough i see your point now, probably a pretty valid one imo.

Its football ffs ... no one has lost a limb, no one has lost their lives.


Jesus, the amount of grief i have had on here for being a Spurs fan !!  its relentless.


So when the chance arises to stick it in the eye of someone else's team ... I am gonna be at the front of the queue !!


PS. funniest song I have ever heard at footy

Park Li wherever you may be
they eat dogs in your own country
It could be worse, you could be a Scouse
Eating Rats in your council house


Now, I was born, brought up and lived my teenage years in a council house in a rough council estate (tin town in luton ... google it) but I still find those type of songs funny .. I see humour in many things that may not be strictly PC.

Liverpool fans are not angels and have regularly sang songs about the munich disaster etc ..



Now get it right up ya ... and make a game of it in the second leg FFS.


And please please please give Fergie a squeaky bum in the league and dont let him off the hook domestically just because of this result.

Good post Kev

[ x ] Rooks reaction was way over the top though and part of the reason no-one likes Chelsea  ;)

You're right Kev - there are prats supporting every team.  Singing about disasters or deaths isn't big though, and it certainly isn't clever.

its....

Park, Sun Ji,
Wherever you may be,
He eats dog in his home country,
It could be worse,
He could be a scouse,
Eating rats in his council house.

The other one is....

Dirk Kuyt, wherever you may be, he smokes pot in his home country....etc

Another cracking piece from Paul Tomkins

Very few things in the game are clear-cut. Pros and cons exist with almost everything, be it a system, formation, selection ideas and even players themselves.
 
During the mid-season slump I never lost faith in this team or its manager. Equally, during the good times, and after some sensational results, I've said that this is a team capable of winning the big trophies, but never got carried away, even after beating Aston Villa 5-0. Equanimity is crucial.
 
You can be positive or negative, but I just try to be balanced. I don't go around like Frank Constanza in Seinfeld screaming 'serenity now!' when I feel my blood pressure rising, but I do try and keep things in perspective, even if it can take a few minutes after a match to calm down, and a few more hours to perk up.
 
I admit to being surprised that the Reds have got themselves so fully back in the title hunt, but I also never swung to despair when the mid-winter wobbles hit.
 
So I'll take the same attitude into this latest setback. Thankfully, I think virtually all Liverpool fans have seen how good this Liverpool side has become of late, and this defeat can be viewed in that context.
 
It's fair to say that Chelsea fully deserved their 3-1 victory at Anfield last night. For the most part, Liverpool played well, and the first half was a truly titanic battle between two form sides trading body blows, but once Chelsea got their second goal the stuffing was somewhat knocked out of the Reds.
 
I've always defended zonal marking, because for the most part it works. It's unhelpful that when it doesn't, certain ex-pros offer all its faults, but never its strengths. Even when Liverpool go many months defending set-pieces to perfection, there's never that other side of the argument.
 
The fact is, Liverpool defended two corners badly against Chelsea. Man-marking is often at fault for goals, but no-one picks up on it, because it's the 'normal' system.
 
Ultimately, if you don't do your job, whatever the system, it breaks down. And Chelsea are a very good team at attacking corners, while Liverpool aren't the biggest side these days.
 
The game reminded me a bit of a role reversal from 2005. Back then Liverpool were not in the title race, or even close, but Chelsea, with a far more expensive side and bigger squad, had to juggle the two main competitions.
 
This time, Liverpool need top energy and intensity for every single game; there's no time to take the foot off the gas, as United's closest challengers. Chelsea, meanwhile, are more adrift in the league; this time, they can focus on Europe. Liverpool reversed Chelsea's league double over them from 2005, only to lose when it came to the Champions League.
 
It's the first defeat against a 'big four' club this season, but it came against a side rejuvenated by the inevitable boost of a new manager. Perhaps, given recent maulings handed out, the early goal made it seem a bit too easy for Liverpool; a false sense of security from pummelling other top sides. This time the opponents bounced back well.
 
Chelsea are a weird team this season; they almost had a mid-season break, drifting through winter, with some of their players apparently having given up, only to now get a big boost for the final stretch with another top manager and the return to fitness (and desire) of some key players. It seems a long time ago when Chelsea started the season in such stunning form.
 
But so well have Liverpool done this season, it's easy to overlook that Chelsea's 18-man squad last night cost £70m more than the Reds', and that their starting XI cost £45m more. That's the kind of gap in finances Benítez has closed has in the league; I don't see any teams assembled for far less money than Liverpool even close to the Reds.
 
There's no doubt that the draw favoured Chelsea, with the second leg at home (especially with last season fresh in both teams' minds), but it also favoured Manchester United in terms of the league title; for some reason, Liverpool always seem to draw English opposition, which means not only an extra edge, but the extra intensity of Premiership-paced games, while United avoid them.
 
How this result affects Liverpool's season is not easy to predict; it may be a cliché to say it can go either way, but it's true. The tie is not over, and you can expect every effort to try and win the second leg, with Chelsea's defence shorn of John Terry one advantage, but if Liverpool can't at least match the 3-1 scoreline, it's that old 'concentrate on the league' time.
 
The main thing is to bounce back on Saturday against Blackburn. When Liverpool won 4-1 at Old Trafford, it turned a record-breaking defence into one that has now shipped ten in four matches, with the slump spread across both domestic and European competitions. Liverpool cannot let this defeat affect them in a similar manner.
 
If Liverpool go out of Europe as a result of last night, it will provide more chance to focus on the Premiership. But it could also throw Benítez's team off their stride. Conversely, if Liverpool go to Stamford Bridge and pull off a miraculous win, it'll do incredible wonders to the confidence, but sap the energy and lead to a fixture pile-up.
 
Which outcome would be better can never really be foretold. I felt United's late winner at the weekend would have seen them turn the corner and suddenly find their old form, but they were poor against Porto, and again failed to win.
 
A lot was made of Liverpool's supposedly settled side going into this match, and how that's been behind the team's success of late. This may be true; certainly having his best players fit is vital to any manager, and Benítez is no different.
 
But again, there's a flip-side. You may have more understanding, but you are also more predictable; good players can always produce something unexpected, but the system can be countered to a greater degree. Chelsea set out to stop Liverpool, with the pressure on the home side, and it worked. Keeping a settled side can also lead to increased tiredness.
 
Pros and cons, always pros and cons. So it's often a balancing act, not a case of 'always play your best side' or always change your side.
 
But what the figures tell me is that the two teams who have 'rotated' most this season are Manchester United and Liverpool.
 
Or the top two sides in the league.
 
Both have had quite a few injury problems (and United a few suspensions), but in the league it's 94 changes by Ferguson to 95 changes by Benítez.
 
Given that they've played one less game, that means United have made a greater number of changes on average. And that average is virtually identical to the figure from last season's title success.
 
While Benítez has made slightly fewer changes this season than last, there's not an awful lot in it; particularly as many of those changes last season came when 4th place was the best and worst the Reds could do. United's title success of 2006/07 saw both Ferguson and Benítez make 118 changes over the 38 games.
 
But still we get the black-and-white notions about rotation; how only Benítez does it, and how it doesn't work.
 
And this is what I try to cut through. Zonal marking versus man marking, rotation versus 'same again this week lads', 4-2-3-1 versus 4-4-2: they all have their pros and cons.
 
Sometimes they will work, other times they will fail. And sometimes you will lose or win based not on any of these things, but on a slice of fortune, a refereeing mistake, a good finish or a bad piece of goalkeeping.
 
That's why the big picture is the one that always counts: because it samples from a greater amount of data, and smooths out the blips. In the main competitions, Liverpool have won 26 games and lost just three – and that gives me a good sense of serenity now.

try been a grimsby fan fml

Lol @ overreaction.

I hardly sung about death or disaster, did I?

Hillsborough anniversary, i'm sure if I wanted to I could have started singing about this. But obviously there is no reason to want or do so.

rotflmfao

LOL at your own over reaction. Thx for not singing about Hillsborough though, very good of you.

+1

All true Kiv, it still applies to why people don't like Chelsea though. By and large they cant relate to them. That's all I was saying.

Boo, you have the best avatar ever.

Everyone likes to rub it in when there team turns over someone elses lol at overreactions of overeactions of reactions or summit like that,rooks was just having a laugh as would've happened the other way round just it wouldn't have just been one person having to post it all

PS PMSL at the actual overeactions on the radio today of people saying gerrard's not world class coz of this one game blah de blah ffs a half fit gerrard had an ineffective game as he was marked out the game by imo chelsea's best player

[  ] This proves anything
[X] Gerrard is blatantly the best central midfield player in the game today
[X] Gerrard >>>>>>> Essien

hehe  30 years old and the film is as fresh today as it was back then.

Much unlike yourself? :)