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Title: TT early on
Post by: R8APK on April 21, 2009, 07:08:22 PM
2nd hand of tournament.

10,000 chips, (1x 10,000 rebuy & 1x 10,000 add on available).

Blinds 50/100.

Mid position  Th Td, I raise to 300, BB reraises to 900. reraise called.

Flop  9d 7c 3d.

BB leads out for 1500.

I raise to 4500.

BB tanks for 3-4 minutes, then shoves.

I fold.

Thoughts please?

 


Title: Re: TT early on
Post by: outragous76 on April 21, 2009, 07:22:26 PM
you are beat most of the time. However - if you can rebuy i prob get it in given that you have half your stack in.

If you can rebuy when down to 5k - i fold and rebuy.

The only hand you are ahead of is AKdd and you still have a good deal of swerving to do.

If you didnt want to get it all in on that board i would call the 1500 and hope a scare card came (any 8 and 10 any diamond) to get to show down as cheapo as poss or to take a weaker opponent off their hand. Your raise and his re-ship confirms he has you beat now.


Title: Re: TT early on
Post by: George2Loose on April 21, 2009, 07:27:17 PM
2nd hand of tournament.

10,000 chips, (1x 10,000 rebuy & 1x 10,000 add on available).

Blinds 50/100.

Mid position  Th Td, I raise to 300, BB reraises to 900. reraise called.

Flop  9d 7c 3d.

BB leads out for 1500.

I raise to 4500.

BB tanks for 3-4 minutes, then shoves.

I fold.

Thoughts please?

 

Don't like the way you played it.

Raise/calling pre is fine but I would much prefer a flat on the flop if your gonna continue with the hand rather than raise/folding for half your stack


Title: Re: TT early on
Post by: Cf on April 21, 2009, 07:33:28 PM
2nd hand of tournament.

10,000 chips, (1x 10,000 rebuy & 1x 10,000 add on available).

Blinds 50/100.

Mid position  Th Td, I raise to 300, BB reraises to 900. reraise called.

Flop  9d 7c 3d.

BB leads out for 1500.

I raise to 4500.

BB tanks for 3-4 minutes, then shoves.

I fold.

Thoughts please?

 

Yay, we now have 1.5x a starting stack, which shows how stupid the half chip rule is.


Title: Re: TT early on
Post by: MANTIS01 on April 21, 2009, 09:59:05 PM
Raising the flop is not good play.


Title: Re: TT early on
Post by: Simon Galloway on April 21, 2009, 11:19:35 PM
Raising the flop is not good play.

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Title: Re: TT early on
Post by: AlexMartin on April 22, 2009, 12:57:25 AM
Raising the flop is not good play.

hey, he might have a sick dynamic going on!


raising the flop is a great play, IF you are gonna snap a shove and read souls for a living.


Title: Re: TT early on
Post by: boldie on April 22, 2009, 11:28:43 AM
Raising the flop is not good play.

hey, he might have a sick dynamic going on!


raising the flop is a great play, IF you are gonna snap a shove and read souls for a living.

this.

I have faith.


Title: Re: TT early on
Post by: Blatch on April 22, 2009, 12:02:10 PM
2nd hand of tournament.

10,000 chips, (1x 10,000 rebuy & 1x 10,000 add on available).

Blinds 50/100.

Mid position  Th Td, I raise to 300, BB reraises to 900. reraise called.

Flop  9d 7c 3d.

BB leads out for 1500.

I raise to 4500.

BB tanks for 3-4 minutes, then shoves.

I fold.

Thoughts please?

 

What was you reason for raising the flop?  Info? Value?


Title: Re: TT early on
Post by: R8APK on April 22, 2009, 06:58:47 PM
Ok, now realise it was bad play.

I thought BB might be trying to make an early statement of defending his blind then continuation betting or he was doing that with AK, AQ and continuation betting. I raised because I wanted to take pot down. If I flat called I was worried that a scare card would come and I could be bluffed off pot or he could hit his overs.

Happy to take criticsm as want to learn from it(hence my posting!)!


Title: Re: TT early on
Post by: MANTIS01 on April 22, 2009, 08:05:50 PM
Ok, now realise it was bad play.

I thought BB might be trying to make an early statement of defending his blind then continuation betting or he was doing that with AK, AQ and continuation betting. I raised because I wanted to take pot down. If I flat called I was worried that a scare card would come and I could be bluffed off pot or he could hit his overs.

Happy to take criticsm as want to learn from it(hence my posting!)!

Good post bud. So from that post have a look at what's driving your strat decisions at the poker table. Pretty much fear and worry. In this case you fear the next card coming so you raise. That is a really bad reason to raise. It's like when that bushman Ray Mears says you should play dead when a bear attacks if you want to live and running fast means you will die. Then when a bear does actually attack you in the wild you suddenly find yourself running fast. Why are you running? There is no real explanation for that.


Title: Re: TT early on
Post by: mondatoo on April 23, 2009, 12:57:51 AM
So good to see a new member actually looking for constructive advice instead of just whining that people are being harsh coz he played a hand bad.Nothing more to add to what's already been said but best of look at the tables mate a wp on making the final table wd


Title: Re: TT early on
Post by: Sweir on May 01, 2009, 05:02:00 PM
god, prob a gd rule is to never raise/fold a made hand on the flop if your gonna do this kinda stuff. just flat flop unless you have some history where you can raise/call