Title: Southampton -10 points Post by: phatomch on April 23, 2009, 06:21:15 PM No real post but wanted to spread the good news from a Portsmouth fan's view.
Title: Re: Southampton -10 points Post by: boldie on April 23, 2009, 07:21:06 PM Loved the "we'll deduct it when it really hurts you" approach they've taken as well lol.
That's what you get for trying to bend the rules IMO. "It wasn't us that went bust, it was the company"...bollox. Title: Re: Southampton -10 points Post by: The Camel on April 23, 2009, 08:21:13 PM No real post but wanted to spread the good news from a Portsmouth fan's view. You'll won't be laughing when the crook who owns your lot gets rumbled and Pompey go down the swanee too. Title: Re: Southampton -10 points Post by: Josedinho on April 23, 2009, 11:43:06 PM Right result. If not every club would be owned by a parent company.
Title: Re: Southampton -10 points Post by: phatomch on April 24, 2009, 08:04:33 AM No real post but wanted to spread the good news from a Portsmouth fan's view. You'll won't be laughing when the crook who owns your lot gets rumbled and Pompey go down the swanee too. Lol I know, Harry could still get us in trouble for dodgy dealings aswell Title: Re: Southampton -10 points Post by: Pawprint on April 24, 2009, 11:19:53 AM Right result. If not every club would be owned by a parent company. Don't dispute that, but from a legal position, the football club is not in administration, even the administrator has come out and said that. Therefore, there is a loophole here, I'm not suggesting it's right, but if the rules and reg's are properly followed, then the punishment is wrong. I know the firm that consulted on the football clubs structure and they knew exactly what they were able to do, surprised other clubs weren't aware of it. (Not that it matters now anyway) I don't think it would make a difference as Saints will get relegated this season, and to be honest on their play, it's what they deserve. Hopefully though, the club will sort out it's financial situation and get onto a more stable footing, whichever level of the league that happens to be. Title: Re: Southampton -10 points Post by: Matt50 on April 24, 2009, 11:23:52 AM More bad news for them though, is that if they dont get enough points to finish outside the bottom 3 this season, then the 10 point penalty will be next season in League 1, making it almost impossible for them to bounce straight back.
Charlton and Southampton in League 1 - who would have thought that 5 years ago. Title: Re: Southampton -10 points Post by: Acidmouse on April 24, 2009, 11:35:53 AM Dunno -15 points and we finished just outside the top 2. If Leeds had just the -10 penalty it would have seen us promoted 2nd.
League one is full of utter shite teams who don't take much to rollover, I would still be optimistic of at least playoffs if you keep the nucleus of young talent. Title: Re: Southampton -10 points Post by: Josedinho on April 24, 2009, 11:36:12 AM Agree with what you have said Pawprint. I didn't think they would or could be punished. I meant it was the right result for football in general not a correct decision.
Title: Re: Southampton -10 points Post by: gatso on April 24, 2009, 11:38:28 AM Dunno -15 points and we finished just outside the top 2. If Leeds had just the -10 penalty it would have seen us promoted 2nd. League one is full of utter shite teams who don't take much to rollover, I would still be optimistic of at least playoffs if you keep the nucleus of young talent. but next season's league 1 is looking like being a lot harder, especially if you fail to go up. 10 points will be too much for them to overcome Title: Re: Southampton -10 points Post by: boldie on April 24, 2009, 03:24:22 PM Wow....15 degrees in Pompey today...yet in southampton it's -10...this global warming thing really is a bitch ;)
Title: Re: Southampton -10 points Post by: matt674 on April 24, 2009, 07:04:38 PM More bad news for them though, is that if they dont get enough points to finish outside the bottom 3 this season, then the 10 point penalty will be next season in League 1, making it almost impossible for them to bounce straight back. They've done this deliberately to ensure we finish bottom regardless :( [ x ] we could have used the extra £4.67 for finishing 23rd on the pyramid payout scheme to good effect next season Title: Re: Southampton -10 points Post by: Ironside on April 24, 2009, 07:15:34 PM -10 at the start of next season will be enough to see us go down to the 4th level of english football
it will be along distant time before we get back in the championship let alone where we belong in the ECL Title: Re: Southampton -10 points Post by: Matt.NFFC. on April 25, 2009, 08:07:46 PM And here's me worrying whether we'd beat the drop for weeks, all that analysis of "who you got left" etc etc was a waste of my time ffs.
It's all a question of how many players leave in the summer. Keep that squad and I think it's good enough to make the playoffs. Title: Re: Southampton -10 points Post by: Rooky9 on April 26, 2009, 01:06:24 PM Does Andrew Davies still play for Southampton? Nice to see he wasn't out having a good time, getting drunk and generally being a big time Charlie in a teesside nightclub on the day his employers are relegated.
How much of southampton's downfall is linked to leaving the dell? Loss of home record? Financial pressure of stadium loan? Title: Re: Southampton -10 points Post by: TheWhisper on April 27, 2009, 01:01:40 PM They are a good young side and I just hope (providing they actually stay in business) that they manage to keep most of the players.
I watched them at Reading in November and they played really nice passing football, they lost their heads a bit when they let in a goal but that is just an experience thing, overall they were the much better side. Title: Re: Southampton -10 points Post by: TheChipPrince on April 30, 2009, 03:51:27 PM Stockport now aswell, notice how they waited until 2 days after safety has been confirmed (if you took 10 off now), take it off next season imo...
Title: Re: Southampton -10 points Post by: AndrewT on April 30, 2009, 04:17:12 PM Stockport now aswell, notice how they waited until 2 days after safety has been confirmed (if you took 10 off now), take it off next season imo... I'm pretty sure the League are wise to that scam now, after (I think) Leicester did it. Hence Southampton's "ten points off next season if you're down anyway" punishment. Title: Re: Southampton -10 points Post by: gatso on May 01, 2009, 10:14:43 AM hmm, complete joke really, methinks the league really need to look into the penalty for going into admin. for the exact same offence southampton are royally screwed for next season while stockport get effectively nothing
Title: Re: Southampton -10 points Post by: Pawprint on May 01, 2009, 10:39:43 AM hmm, complete joke really, methinks the league really need to look into the penalty for going into admin. for the exact same offence southampton are royally screwed for next season while stockport get effectively nothing The punishment would be the same for both clubs. The consequences of that punishment are obviously compeletely different. Perhaps the way to do it is administration=automatic relegation. But you would still need to punish a club that was going to be relegated anyway should they go into administration, otherwise the loophole is still there. A ten point deduction for the next season effectively makes it very difficult for the club to get promoted straight back. Considering the financial situation of these clubs, is that such a bad thing ? I mean, a chance to get the club on a stable foothold and ensure it is managed within their means. The Luton situation was the real sickener. I think most Luton fans would have rather had the instant relegation rather than to have gone through this season and at least they would have had a chance to have got back this year, but instead they are punished for a greater length of time. And it's the players and fans that suffer really. Title: Re: Southampton -10 points Post by: Acidmouse on May 01, 2009, 10:41:27 AM Well the options to Leeds were grim -15 was the best option. They offered to relegate us, push us into non league or accept the points deduction.
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