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Could be fight of the year, and yet there seems to be little excitement over this fight compared to many others in the past.

What does everyone think will happen? 

Also what about Carl Froch's fight, and the fact that it wasn't televised? 

Soooooooooooooooooooooooo fking pissed off >:(. Going to the states with work in a day or two and Vegas straight after for a few days, but only get to Vegas on tues, can't get away from work earlier. Never been to a boxing match before and would loved to have gone, I would even have paid silly money as a one off to go and see this.

Antonio Tarver is fighting the next weekend and tickets are only $75 so may go there as a consolation instead.

Don't know why but I'm just not too bothered about Hatton vs Pacman. Wanna see Pacman vs Mayweather though!

Feel sorry for Froch. A v good fighter who deserves more credit. It's no wonder he wants to fight Calzaghe because its probably the only chance he's got at a big payday.

Only saw the last round but boy it was excellent!

Hatton will win imo

Too big and too much for Pacquiao you think?  I'd like to hope that's the case, but just like the Khan fight - it'd be a guess if I said which way I thought this one will go.

manny pacquiao is just amazingly fast with his punches but i think hattons brute strength will win it for him

hes a typical hard headed englishman

hoping to put a bet on this

Hatton 4th round

Looking forward to it but it looks a close one. I reckon Hatton but hope it's a classic.
Froch was a good fight but i think he's had to wait to long for his big chance and thats why he's passed most people by.

I dunno how I feel like this is gonna go- I dont know if its my heart ruling my head but I think Hatton for his size, body punches(and alleged increased speed) but then again I think back to the Mayweather fight and I thought Hatton then too....

But we seen what happened then and the bookies have got Manny as similar odds to what Mayweather was... really looking forward to it though as both Boxers love to come forward so should be a tear up-cant see it going 12 rounds whoever wins it.

I think we may be in for a shock in that Hatton will crush him,i only say this as i think possibly pacman maybe is being well overated due to his performance vs ODLH who was blatantly passed it,obv pacman seems a classy fighter but at 140 i think hatton rules that division and would even beat pretty boy floyd at that weight 

Pacman is not overrated. IMO he's a legend already. Possibly moreso than PBF.

I quite like Hatton...but reckon he'll get done here TBH.

OH...and Hatton will never beat Pretty Boy Floyd...ever.

LOL

Only coz he will never fight him at 140 if they did i really believe he would otherwise i agree

Hatton looks in the best shape of his life.  He'll need to be, and I think he's going to surprise a lot of people (like he did against Tszyu).

Hope your right mate-I love the pacman and the way he fights but been a Hatton fan for a long time so hoping he can do it

Plus think theres still a few doubters over the pond (even after Castillo, Tszyu, Malignaggi) so would good to prove them wrong

Didnt want to make any major predictions, but when I saw you can get 2-1 on Hatton on Betfair I soon made my mind up. He looks in great shape and although Pacman will hit him often, Hatton will hit back fast and hard, unlike De La Hoya. Could go either way, but no way Hatton is a big underdog, if anything he should be the slight favourite.

Froch is very unlucky, his last two fights have been crackers and no fucker has ever heard of him

pacman to win, hatton will do his usual reckless style no matter what mayweather snr has taught him and manny will pick him off and dance away.

Do you think PBF is an all time great? I'm a bit sick of fighters using that line tbh. PBF wouldn't make my top 20 of all time.

Pacman's fights vs the Morales and Barerras (other legends in their weight class) put him right up there IMO.

I didn't say Pacman is better than PBF or would beat him. I just don't buy into PBF's definition of "greatness" as much as I buy into Pacman's career.

Roy Jones Junior was probably the best super-middleweight I remember seeing but I doubt he'll never be a great on a par with with the likes of Leonard, Hearns, Duran and Haggler.

Hope hatton wins as we have tickets (brag obv)

MBSFN enjoy

PBF???

Pretty boy floyd aka Floyd Mayweather Jr

Will Manny being southpaw make much difference? I saw Hatton look pretty average against a leftie when he stepped up a weight (might have been against Collazo?) that was under Graham and not at his weight but i thought the left handed thing was a bit of an issue too.

I think it will- I think he might walk into a fair few punches because of it but remains to be seen what his new training camp have done to combat it.

Everybody is making a big deal about the speed vs power thing but I think its more to do with how well Hatton defends himself; I think using a bit more counter punching than standing on the front foot all the time could help him a bit more.

Hatton is 2/1 on betfair anyone who wants to give me 7/4 before the fight @ £100 and i'll transfer on blonde give me a shout

Who is going to arb mond?

What does arb mean ?

hold the money for you I think

OI

What, I was giving an answer!

I challenge thou to a dual u went to far... to far

???

*is confused*

Did I get it wrong? All i said was that the "arb" is a neutral who holds the cash for you.

I said OI coz u spoilt my full house,im waiting for u at blonde cash,why wudnt someone want to put a £100 bet on when they cant lose and they might win like £10 or woteva it is for 2 secs work not bad imo

cant play Blonde cash - busto.

Now I understand...

rotflmfao

If they lay you 7/4 and back him @ 2/1 on the fair they win no matter what.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arbitrage_betting

Now I get it, cheers Gamblor.

That's the whole point,as i have no money in the bank but do have on blonde so am basically offering someone a freeroll as i want a bet on the fight and think hatton will win and is a huge price at 2/1 obv a cuda said 15/8 but 7/4 will do

Collazo makes everyone he fights look bad - he's an awkward, ugly fighter. 

Pacquiao is undoubtedly quick and accurate - but unlike De La Hoya, Hatton will not be a static target or give Pacquiao the space and opportunity to work openings.  My worry is if Hatton cuts early.  That problem seems to have been sorted, but fast chopping punchers are the ones who open cuts.

Agreed, for some reason Freddie Roach thinks it will be an early KO for Pacman, but I cant see him being able to do that, much more likely he wins on points if he does win. For me, Hatton is too big, too powerful, too conditioned and too fast (Pacman is faster, but Hatton will be a shit load faster than De La Hoya was). Could go either way though, such an interesting match, thank god boxing is producing interesting encounters like this, Hatton vs Mayweather, Haye vs Klitchsko, Khan vs Barrera, Hopkins vs Pavlik etc etc. Belts mean sod all, its about exciting fights.

I want Ricky to win, I think he will, but the boxing purist in me also wants to see Pacman vs Mayweather, which would probably happen if he won.

Yes, people seem to think that Hatton is a slow, cumbersome plodder.  This isn't the case.  He throws a lot of fast punches from different angles.  Yes, he might have to walk through a few of Pacquiao's shots to get in close - but we'll see how concussive Pacquiao is when he catches Hatton.

I'm loving these match ups too.  It's the only way the alphabet soup of organisations and belts was ever going to be sorted - ignore them and just get the best to fight the best.

I think Lewis unifying the belts killed the value of them off (It probably was the death of heavyweight boxing too). Belts only really mean something if there is some sort of extra achievement added to them like defending the same belt for X years or winning belts at X different weights.

pac man in the 6th i think

Pacman on points for me

does anyone know what time  this starts

will be about 4ish or even 5ish going by past fights

Cannot see this going to points, I have a nasty feeling that Hatton will get stopped in the 7th with a cut.

Hatton in teh 4th imo

Guess i gotta get friend to open an account on bf sigh

anyone who wants some kinda bet for com value give me a shout

Tale of the tape
Pacquiao -- Hatton
138lbs Weight 140lbs
5ft 6.5ins Height 5ft 7.5ins
67ins Reach 65ins
38ins Chest Normal 37ins
41ins Chest expanded 39ins
13ins Biceps 13ins
12ins Forearms 9.5ins
28ins Waist 30ins
20ins Thigh 20.5ins
15ins Calf 14.5ins
16ins Neck 15ins
8ins Wrist 7ins
10ins Fist 11.5ins

PBF is back!

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12183_5262280,00.html

(http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/9726/mannypacquiaovrickyhatt.jpg)

Very closely matched, and Pacquiao is actually larger in a lot of those - which surprises me after what has been made of Hatton's size and strength.

Excatly my thoughts mate, i didnt think pacman was that big to be honest

Well its going to be a great fight nonetheless

Pacman looks a bigger build in the picture

What times kick off?  I'll be driving betweent 2 and 4 tonight, should be a good listen...

I'm guessing close to 4:30.  I hope it's earlier so we can watch it at DTD.  Otherwise it'll be a right royal pain in the arris.

BBC website says estimated 4am, heard elsewhere 4.30

canny wait for this gonna be awesome, where you watchin it stuart?

If previous fights are anything to go by 4.30+

at mates house now, 7 lads , beer, food boxing, does it get better?

erm how about 7 birds, beer,jelly,paddling pool and a viagra.

add a fit bird to go to bed with afterwards and the odd game of poker in and no, it doesnt.

couldnt get an escort or stripper to give 7 BJ's for £30 each, credit crunch what?

minus fit birds and bj's

can someone stick up a link to the hatton fight please

rumours are hatton gonna sack mayweather snr after the fight

Bets for the Fight

Round Betting for me tonight:

Pacquiao To Win in Round 7 @ 25/1
Pacquiao To Win in Round 8 @ 22/1
Pacquiao To Win in Round 9 @ 16/1
Pacquiao To Win in Round 10 @ 20/1

Come on Wee man!

Lets Go Go Go!

Trolling surely?

on hatton ftw. Gogogo

Link please

no link paid 13 quid for this!

I'm using http://www.justin.tv/colavictoriouscola

Lol, should have states at dtd!

Go on tommy! Belt it son!

n1 granny owt better tho?

Best I can do mate just woke up :)

How many drunken blondes stayiing up to watch the fight?

Anyone fancy some fun on FT?

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Manny entering the ring now looking super relaxed

gg

rickys down manny looking very fast

well done Ricky. U sure had a good run

jesys rickys going down twice in 1st round could be a quick fight.

When would u see ricky down twice in 1 round?

fffs

down again and over great final shot

time for bed lol

completely and utterly pwned imo

hatton retire please

Ricky hatton just got knokced the fuk out gnite from me and gnite from him

Mayweather Jr vs Pacquiao please!

Hopefully Money vs Manny that should be a good one

Ricky was never gonna win that fight but fuck me to see him go like that please retire now ricky

leave the memories

sick, gr8 final shot. gg Hatton.

awful finish to rickys career i am truly gutted to see that fkin finish

gg hatton....sure didnt get ur soul handed to u on a plate

Manny Wins

The Philippines - party time

Shit....didn't expect it to finish like that, GG Ricky retire IMO.....

(http://i44.tinypic.com/elcea8.gif)

How disappointing was that?

Hatton needed to be at his absolute best to compete with Pacquiao. He needed the right gameplan,  both offensively and defensively.  He had neither.

Obviously, the way he fought (or didn't) rests on the shoulders of the fighter himself, but I also think a huge part of the responsibility also lies with the trainer.  During the build up, Mayweather Snr was giving all the talk, but was constantly turning up for training late and there was the talk of him being sacked before the fight even took place.  Did they say on telly that he was even late on the night? Hardly ideal preparation for when your fighter needs to be at 100% against arguably the best in the world.

Hatton gave nothing that showed the fight could go any other way than the way it did.  No genuine strategy to speak of regarding going forward at Pacquiao. He seemed to just be intent on walking into range without a jab to speak of, and exerting no pressure on Pacquiao.  Defensively, he was wide open and there was no footwork to keep him either outside Pacquiao's range, or close enough to spoil and smother Pacquiao's work. Instead, he walked in to the mid-range with his guard held low inviting Pacquiao to hit him at will. Of course, Pacquiao is quick and accurate, and he's going to show up a lot of fighters, but Hatton's whole approach merely emphasised Pacquiao's skills.  Where was Hatton's lateral movement, where was the guile and ringcraft that he's shown in the past? Yes, he came up against a better fighter, but he made it very easy for Pacquiao - very easy indeed.

What Freddie Roach has done with Pacquiao over the years is amazing.  Pacquiao is such an improved fighter. If Hatton had been under the instruction and coaching of Roach, he would not have put on anything like that performance.

For me, the only fights lefdt for Hatton should he decide to continue are against top British fighters, or 'lower' world-class fighters. That performance will taint his legacy, and it would now be interesting to see what would happen were he to fight another Roach fighter - in the form of Amir Khan, in say 6-12 months' time.  Previously, I would have said that Hatton would be too much for Khan both in terms of strength and general fighting class.  Now I'm not so sure at all.

As for Pacquiao, it's got to be a fight with Mayweather.

good write up Dan

Just watched it, painfully poor, please retire, bring on pacman v mayweather,

This kinda thing is why I hate boxing.  Anytime a fighter loses everyone calls for him to retire to preserve his legacy.  All the best fighters lost fights in their life and they are still legends.  Instead of taking lesser matches just to preserve his legacy or his record, why not take matches that will draw at the box office, that will be a big spectacle where he has a 50/50 or less chance of winning.  Who really wants to see Hatton crush some unknown British guy?

who wants to see hatton get owned like he did against pacman

Kinboshi that write up sums up what i have been saying all morning quality write up

So pish staying up till half 4 and Hatton getting crushed so quickly. Can't believe he never learnt anything from the Mayweather fight and just went in all guns blazing. Manny v PBF - can't wait.

No point in Hatton carrying on because of this reason it would be a half-decent Brit or an unknown American no point whatsoever. I'll always remember his fight with Kosta Tsyza (sp) that in my mind was Hatton's peak and he's never been anywhere near that level since

Surely time for Hatton to stop now

Surely he's far too young to quit?

I just don't get the impression that Hatton is the sort of guy who would want to retire with a defeat...

i knew Pac-man would win I had him on round 4-6 on betfair but Htton was taken apart, pac man has moved through 10 weight classes and is easily the best fighter I have seen in a long time, taking nothing away from Hatton who has been great over the years and who has only every lost to the 2 top boxers in his weight classes, but it was always gonna be a easy win.

But I did win £800 in a cash game against my mates whilst waiting for the fight to come on :)
 

Turns out DLH aint that bad!

Pac vs PBF would be the biggest fight since Ray Leonard vs Hagler. If the fight goes ahead at welterweight and Pac wins, he would be the first and only 7 weight champion.

Just caught up with this thread.

Why would this be trolling? am i not allowed to go against a home town hero? Who clearly isn't a hero (good fighter yes, but abused the sport to much that its finally caught up)

Ive backed against hatton his last three fights, pity i didn't see this early round knockout coming, 2nd round was roughly 100/1 too!

FML

Personally i don't mind the guy, i just think he's abuse the sport and his body to much to survive, mainly cos i think he's to much of a chive!

He shoulds retire now, and save face on a great career.

agreed, biggest fight in my adult life, hope it happens.

just watched the fight back and freddie roach is so right, hatton cocking his punches and getting right hooked every time. don't like to watch as my emotions are mixed, i've loved watching both of them for years and not nice to see a home town hero get totally bettered. hope he retires and we see him commentating coz hes an interesting and likeable character.

i dont think he would want to go out like that either but i think alot of people want him to retire

Hatton will still fight witter (and win) or fight Khan and who knows?,

Who did you get to type that for you?

I keep hear people saying that but why though?

There's still a lot of money to be made by Hatton, notably against British fighters like Khan and Witter and also against International stars like DLH and Cotto.

Twas a joke post

If it happens at welter Pacman will lose. As the man with the cards at present he should ask for it at the weight he wants.

Didn't people say he would lose to De Le Hoya when he stepped up weight divisions?

His power, hand speed and accuracy seems to be uneffected by the weight he's fighting at.

Saying that I think PBF would win even if it was at light-welter but it would be close

Hatton didnt look right at all the other night, but on reflection, I think Pacman would have won regardless of which Hatton he got.

Pacman is simply amazing, considering he started as a 7 stone fighter, he still has a huge punch alongside his speed and skill, bring on Mayweather please. I know think Pacman is the best boxer on the planet.

I don't think its the end for Hatton, however I do think retiring wouldnt be a bad idea. He certainly could still make plenty of money and for me, Khan is a huge domestic fight, but he could come a cropper there if he isn't careful. Witter would be about as big a step down as is humanly possible for him, although it would settle a £50 bet between me and my Dad if they did fight.

Hatton clearly has a career as a boxing pundit/tv personality/question of sport captain and at one point during the fight I was worried he might suffer a serious injury, he is the sort of fighter who could end up a vegetable, so personally I'd like him to retire, but will still watch him if he doesn't.

If Hatton isn't going to retire i want him to fight Khan and destroy him. Otherwise i agree he should retire and avoid ending up permanently disabled.

after the mayweather and pacquioa fight, thats where hes heading lol

i think he should fight khan and i think he will easily beat him, but i think hes pushed his luck a little to far with mayweather and manny, lets see what happends

Who are you on? Witter ?

Hatton, Witter is a bag of shit imo

He's not that bad - but I agree that Hatton would win easily.

You never know, Khan v Witter might be a fight that happens, as it will create plenty of domestic interest. 

Witter has been under the radar a bit too long for my liking, he is no spring chicken (was he injured?) but good fight for Khan, maybe Khan/Witter/Hatton could be the next, poor mans, Benn/Eubank/Collins

I don't see where Hatton goes from here?

He's had his arse handed to him twice by the only two world class fighters he's fought. He's comfortably better than most other fighters in his weight division so where does he go?

maybe a "farewell" fight at Man City's ground against someone he'll easily beat. But then who would pay good money for that ?

All things point to retirement really

Just seen thread, I thought the pacman was a clear fav for this, mainly due to hatton not been near his best past few fights. His lifestyle at this point in his career goes against him, he just doesn't look after himself.
Think he will avoid khan fight, Roach has already sussed him out and khan with his speed could easily get a similar result.

He fought Kostya Tzu as well.

Can't wait for Manny vs Mayweather.

But i won't be able to think of Manny as a serious challenger until he beats The Big Show