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Title: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: EddieHearn on April 28, 2009, 09:52:32 PM
Alex, after your comments on the thread yesterday..I just heard Padraig make the offer of a bet of $10k that he can beat the game. Let us know the sample size and if you fancy it!

www.thepokershowlive.com


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: Claw75 on April 28, 2009, 09:54:51 PM
blatant 'I have $10k to gamble with' brag imo


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: Simon Galloway on April 28, 2009, 09:57:10 PM
(http://www.kevininscoe.com/pub/lol.jpg)


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: byronkincaid on April 28, 2009, 10:02:44 PM
how will he prove it's him playing?


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: Linux on April 28, 2009, 10:08:39 PM
webcams are standard on 2p2 prop bets


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: Dale on April 28, 2009, 10:34:57 PM
better to spend the 10k buying some decent music for the intervals in the radio show imo


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: kinboshi on April 28, 2009, 10:36:28 PM
Alex also said he had to do it on blonde poker.


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: EddieHearn on April 28, 2009, 10:42:18 PM
Dale..we are hoping to double it up and buy some Westlife stuff.


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: Dale on April 28, 2009, 11:29:37 PM
what, no B*Witched?


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: Rupert on April 29, 2009, 12:52:19 AM
omfg please give me $1k of action


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: Royal Flush on April 29, 2009, 01:11:56 AM
I bet he can't go one show without slagging off someone based on one of the following two criteria:

1) They started playing poker after 2001 (the same year Padraig last won anything)
2) They aren't know to him in his tiny circle of players (mostly Irish who are all apparently world beaters)

In short, he is shit at poker, but he drinks so much he probably thinks he is good, the redeeming quality is he is damn funny (when not slagging people off who are better than he ever was/is/will be)


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: snoopy1239 on April 29, 2009, 01:19:15 AM
I bet he can't go one show without slagging off someone based on one of the following two criteria:

1) They started playing poker after 2001 (the same year Padraig last won anything)
2) They aren't know to him in his tiny circle of players (mostly Irish who are all apparently world beaters)

In short, he is shit at poker, but he drinks so much he probably thinks he is good, the redeeming quality is he is damn funny (when not slagging people off who are better than he ever was/is/will be)

Zomg!


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: Newmanseye on April 29, 2009, 05:29:14 AM
I bet he can't go one show without slagging off someone based on one of the following two criteria:

1) They started playing poker after 2001 (the same year Padraig last won anything)
2) They aren't know to him in his tiny circle of players (mostly Irish who are all apparently world beaters)

In short, he is shit at poker, but he drinks so much he probably thinks he is good, the redeeming quality is he is damn funny (when not slagging people off who are better than he ever was/is/will be)

FFS reformed Flushy got his balls Kicked and Proper Flushy is out abusing people again.


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: boldie on April 29, 2009, 05:58:21 AM
I bet he can't go one show without slagging off someone based on one of the following two criteria:

1) They started playing poker after 2001 (the same year Padraig last won anything)
2) They aren't know to him in his tiny circle of players (mostly Irish who are all apparently world beaters)

In short, he is shit at poker, but he drinks so much he probably thinks he is good, the redeeming quality is he is damn funny (when not slagging people off who are better than he ever was/is/will be)

rotflmfao You tell ' em Flush! ;boldie; ;boldie; ;boldie;


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: GreekStein on April 29, 2009, 09:55:44 AM
I bet he can't go one show without slagging off someone based on one of the following two criteria:

1) They started playing poker after 2001 (the same year Padraig last won anything)
2) They aren't know to him in his tiny circle of players (mostly Irish who are all apparently world beaters)

In short, he is shit at poker, but he drinks so much he probably thinks he is good, the redeeming quality is he is damn funny (when not slagging people off who are better than he ever was/is/will be)

We think it, Flushy says it. Respect!


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: T_Mar on April 29, 2009, 10:01:48 AM
Whats the story here then??... cant see another thread but am presuming Alex and PP have had some kind of 'disagreement'


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: Pawprint on April 29, 2009, 10:03:07 AM
I bet he can't go one show without slagging off someone based on one of the following two criteria:

1) They started playing poker after 2001 (the same year Padraig last won anything)
2) They aren't know to him in his tiny circle of players (mostly Irish who are all apparently world beaters)

In short, he is shit at poker, but he drinks so much he probably thinks he is good, the redeeming quality is he is damn funny (when not slagging people off who are better than he ever was/is/will be)

So funny, and so true.


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: GreekStein on April 29, 2009, 10:28:15 AM
0.25/0.50 could make for an interesting bet. I reckon he would get crushed playing $2/4 over a decent sample.


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: outragous76 on April 29, 2009, 10:44:03 AM
I bet he can't go one show without slagging off someone based on one of the following two criteria:

1) They started playing poker after 2001 (the same year Padraig last won anything)
2) They aren't know to him in his tiny circle of players (mostly Irish who are all apparently world beaters)

In short, he is shit at poker, but he drinks so much he probably thinks he is good, the redeeming quality is he is damn funny (when not slagging people off who are better than he ever was/is/will be)

So funny, and so true.

I have my own personal experience with PP - flushy represents the masses IMO!



Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: Pawprint on April 29, 2009, 10:53:43 AM
I bet he can't go one show without slagging off someone based on one of the following two criteria:

1) They started playing poker after 2001 (the same year Padraig last won anything)
2) They aren't know to him in his tiny circle of players (mostly Irish who are all apparently world beaters)

In short, he is shit at poker, but he drinks so much he probably thinks he is good, the redeeming quality is he is damn funny (when not slagging people off who are better than he ever was/is/will be)

So funny, and so true.

I have my own personal experience with PP - flushy represents the masses IMO!



I'm merely commenting on how he comes across on the show.  Don't know him, so only based on that.

Good entertainment though, does help if you actually know the poeple they are talkling about.

[ x ]  I struggle a bit there


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: Ironside on April 29, 2009, 11:05:00 AM
i love padraig. Made me so welcome when i was a newbie


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: GreekStein on April 29, 2009, 11:12:15 AM
how about a $10k bet that Padraig can't beat 0.25/0.50 at a better ptbb/100 than Alex Martin can beat the game 2 levels higher?

20k hands.

Doubt Padraig would bet that.


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: tikay on April 29, 2009, 11:24:34 AM
Well I'm afraid the grumpy old fart is gong to spoil the party now......

1) I really don't think that being so abusive to anyone sits well with me. Everyone is now jumping on the bandwagon, but I dislike this.

2) I don't judge people by their poker ability alone, I judge them as individuals, for whom poker plays a part of their life.

3) If Padraig is "shit at poker", so what? He's survived longer than most have been playing, & if he's so hopeless at poker as is suggested, the fact he's survived so long suggests a modicum of respect is due for his dancing skills.
 
4) I fly no flag for PP, none at all, and my views on drunkenness at the poker table are well known. And Padraig likes a drink. But.....

5) Do any of you know how much money this man has helped raise for The Simon Foundation (a Charity for Homeless in Ireland)? It's hundreds of thousands of €, & Padraig works incredibly hard for this most worthy Charity.

Tell you what. I'll turn a blind eye to the abuse & vitriol, if you guys make a donation to the Charity. Can't say fairer than that, & I know Padraig well enough to say he'll settle for that.

So, how much do you wish to donate?

Really, the art of reasoned debate between grown-ups seems to be a dying one.

So, let's see those donations.

PS - For the record, Padraig & I are well acquainted, rather than "good friends", though we go back a long way, we get on well, & have never had an argument. I just think a little bit less of this ill-mannered vitriol would serve us all well. And I happen to admire Padraig immensely for the Charity work he does, and I fancy he's raised a shed-load more for Charity than anyone else on his Forum.

Grumpy Old Fart, Derbyshire, signing off.  ;)

Have a nice day.


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: kinboshi on April 29, 2009, 11:58:21 AM
I'm raising money for charity.

If a few more people sponsored me, I'll have raised a little more!!

http://www.justgiving.com/daniel-phillips


;spam;


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: kukushkin88 on April 29, 2009, 01:14:23 PM
Ill mannered vitriol? All there is a post from Flushy saying he doesn't think someone is very good at poker and a few people agreeing. There's been no ill mannered vitriol as far as I can see. FWIW I think Padraig has always come over pretty well on the TV.

Everyone who learnt to play poker before people worked out how to play poker optimally is almost by definition going to play badly/sub optimally, that shouldn't be held against them.


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: Dewi_cool on April 29, 2009, 01:32:48 PM
& 4 cashes in WSOP 2006 for $200,000+ aint bad goin either


http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=189


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: jakally on April 29, 2009, 01:35:23 PM

Almost all of the people who learnt the game more recently don't play optimally, or even well.
Almost all of the people who think they play optimally, don't.

(I don't pretend to know what 'optimally' is, but at least I am honest enough to admit it).

Too many people put themselves on a pedestal, and take great pleasure in belittling everyone they perceive to be below their imaginary level.
Insecurity is a very destructive quality to have.


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: the sicilian on April 29, 2009, 01:43:51 PM

Almost all of the people who learnt the game more recently don't play optimally, or even well.
Almost all of the people who think they play optimally, don't.

(I don't pretend to know what 'optimally' is, but at least I am honest enough to admit it).

Too many people put themselves on a pedestal, and take great pleasure in belittling everyone they perceive to be below their imaginary level.
Insecurity is a very destructive quality to have.


+1

Arrogance even youthful arrogance is an ugly trait... especially when the majority who espouse these types of view have yet to achieve anything in life let alone poker.. 


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: PSpillane on April 29, 2009, 02:30:22 PM
Hi

I'm working with PP on the show and he is happy to have the bet if JD wants to have one, obv doesn't need to be for 10k, 1k perhaps? Loser donates to charity?

Flushy will you be a guest on the show next week?

Also i don't believe PP is the slightest bit offended by what has been posted here, please don't kill the debate! lol


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: kinboshi on April 29, 2009, 02:31:54 PM
I thought the bet was between AM and PP, not JD and PP?

:dontask:


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: Ironside on April 29, 2009, 02:36:49 PM
I thought the bet was between AM and PP, not JD and PP?

:dontask:

dont forget jdw and ff but ty and fc want out


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: Jon MW on April 29, 2009, 02:37:46 PM
I thought the bet was between AM and PP, not JD and PP?

:dontask:


(http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq26/CodyRoyce13/jack_daniels.jpg)

and PP?


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: Claw75 on April 29, 2009, 02:40:11 PM

Almost all of the people who learnt the game more recently don't play optimally, or even well.
Almost all of the people who think they play optimally, don't.

(I don't pretend to know what 'optimally' is, but at least I am honest enough to admit it).

Too many people put themselves on a pedestal, and take great pleasure in belittling everyone they perceive to be below their imaginary level.
Insecurity is a very destructive quality to have.


+1


+2 seems to be a lot of this about lately


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: tikay on April 29, 2009, 02:52:17 PM
Hi

I'm working with PP on the show and he is happy to have the bet if JD wants to have one, obv doesn't need to be for 10k, 1k perhaps? Loser donates to charity?

Flushy will you be a guest on the show next week?

Also i don't believe PP is the slightest bit offended by what has been posted here, please don't kill the debate! lol

I never suggested PP was offended, I said "I did not like it", meaning the tone.

Kill the debate? No chance!

I'll be commenting on my Diary, so as not to hijack this thread further. (With one exception, to which I shall respond).


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: tikay on April 29, 2009, 03:04:41 PM
Ill mannered vitriol? All there is a post from Flushy saying he doesn't think someone is very good at poker and a few people agreeing. There's been no ill mannered vitriol as far as I can see. FWIW I think Padraig has always come over pretty well on the TV.

Everyone who learnt to play poker before people worked out how to play poker optimally is almost by definition going to play badly/sub optimally, that shouldn't be held against them.

Ill mannered vitriol?

Yes, that's what I said.

All there is a post from Flushy saying he doesn't think someone is very good at poker

Phrased that way, it's fine. But it was not.

Everyone who learnt to play poker before people worked out how to play poker optimally is almost by definition going to play badly/sub optimally, that shouldn't be held against them.

The sheer arrogance of youth is something to admire, & perhaps behold. I suggest that by omtting the word "eveyone", & substituting it with "many", most", some", or "the great majority", might just give your Post some credibility & integrity. Though perhaps you really do believe that everyone who learned pre-internet plays "sub-optimally". But I don't think you could possibly mean, or believe that. I'll accept "90%" if it means we can be all cuddly wuddly?


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: Royal Flush on April 29, 2009, 03:08:59 PM
Well I'm afraid the grumpy old fart is gong to spoil the party now......

1) I really don't think that being so abusive to anyone sits well with me. Everyone is now jumping on the bandwagon, but I dislike this.

2) I don't judge people by their poker ability alone, I judge them as individuals, for whom poker plays a part of their life.

3) If Padraig is "shit at poker", so what? He's survived longer than most have been playing, & if he's so hopeless at poker as is suggested, the fact he's survived so long suggests a modicum of respect is due for his dancing skills.
 
4) I fly no flag for PP, none at all, and my views on drunkenness at the poker table are well known. And Padraig likes a drink. But.....

5) Do any of you know how much money this man has helped raise for The Simon Foundation (a Charity for Homeless in Ireland)? It's hundreds of thousands of €, & Padraig works incredibly hard for this most worthy Charity.

Tell you what. I'll turn a blind eye to the abuse & vitriol, if you guys make a donation to the Charity. Can't say fairer than that, & I know Padraig well enough to say he'll settle for that.

So, how much do you wish to donate?

Really, the art of reasoned debate between grown-ups seems to be a dying one.

So, let's see those donations.

PS - For the record, Padraig & I are well acquainted, rather than "good friends", though we go back a long way, we get on well, & have never had an argument. I just think a little bit less of this ill-mannered vitriol would serve us all well. And I happen to admire Padraig immensely for the Charity work he does, and I fancy he's raised a shed-load more for Charity than anyone else on his Forum.

Grumpy Old Fart, Derbyshire, signing off.  ;)

Have a nice day.

Errrm i think i have been misunderstood, i love Padraig, he is quality! Makes a lot of the TV poker shows watch able and his chemistry with Jesse is what will make this radio venture work! I am also very impressed by his charity work and admire him for all the effort he puts into it.


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: Royal Flush on April 29, 2009, 03:10:42 PM
Hi

I'm working with PP on the show and he is happy to have the bet if JD wants to have one, obv doesn't need to be for 10k, 1k perhaps? Loser donates to charity?

Flushy will you be a guest on the show next week?

Also i don't believe PP is the slightest bit offended by what has been posted here, please don't kill the debate! lol

Sure we can sort out a challenge of some sort of you wan, a charity donation to the loser seems like a good idea to me! I will happily do the show next week as long as its not a Sunday again as i am always playing too many tables to talk really.


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: sweet potata! on April 29, 2009, 03:21:46 PM
Hi

I'm working with PP on the show and he is happy to have the bet if JD wants to have one, obv doesn't need to be for 10k, 1k perhaps? Loser donates to charity?

Flushy will you be a guest on the show next week?

Also i don't believe PP is the slightest bit offended by what has been posted here, please don't kill the debate! lol

Is that the real Pat Spillane?


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: AlexMartin on April 29, 2009, 03:24:56 PM
LOL. The point i was trying to make was that $50nl is not the ridiculous cakewalk padraig seemed think it would be. I think he's a really funny guy and a very handy poker player, but i doubt he has the necessary skills to beat a far different game at a level he is alien to.

Also, his assumpton that testing a poker players ability in a cash game envornment opposed to an mtt one is flawed is wrong. i think most knowledgable players accept that deep-stacked cash games give a much better indication of a players ability than a small mtt sample size and afterall Neil is planning to send people to relatively prestigious donkaments, where for the majority of the competition players will be relatively deep.





Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: sweet potata! on April 29, 2009, 03:27:11 PM
LOL. The point i was trying to make was that $50nl is not the ridiculous cakewalk padraig seemed think it would be. I think he's a really funny guy and a very handy poker player, but i doubt he has the necessary skills to beat a far different game at a level he is alien to.

Also, his assumpton that testing a poker players ability in a cash game envornment opposed to an mtt one is flawed is wrong. i think most knowledgable players accept that deep-stacked cash games give a much better indication of a players ability than a small mtt sample size and afterall Neil is planning to send people to relatively prestigious donkaments, where for the majority of the competition players will be relatively deep.





LOL backtrackaments FTW


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: Laxie on April 29, 2009, 03:29:32 PM
Hi

I'm working with PP on the show and he is happy to have the bet if JD wants to have one, obv doesn't need to be for 10k, 1k perhaps? Loser donates to charity?

Flushy will you be a guest on the show next week?

Also i don't believe PP is the slightest bit offended by what has been posted here, please don't kill the debate! lol

Is that the real Pat Spillane?

My guess would be that he's Paul Spillane and not Pat.  But that's just a guess, mind.


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: TightEnd on April 29, 2009, 03:31:53 PM
Paul Spillane of BoylesPoker, sponsors of the programme.


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: Laxie on April 29, 2009, 03:32:49 PM
Paul (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=335) Spillane (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=335) of BoylesPoker, sponsors of the programme.

One and the same. 

PS  Welcome to blonde   ;)


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: boldie on April 29, 2009, 03:33:56 PM
lol overreactionaments


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: sweet potata! on April 29, 2009, 03:41:34 PM
Hi

I'm working with PP on the show and he is happy to have the bet if JD wants to have one, obv doesn't need to be for 10k, 1k perhaps? Loser donates to charity?

Flushy will you be a guest on the show next week?

Also i don't believe PP is the slightest bit offended by what has been posted here, please don't kill the debate! lol



Is that the real Pat Spillane?

My guess would be that he's Paul (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=335) Spillane (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=335) and not Pat.  But that's just a guess, mind.

Ya i highly doubted that the legendary Pat Spillane would be posting on Blonde Poker!...No offence to Blonde Poker of course ;)


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: Laxie on April 29, 2009, 03:44:19 PM
Pat Spillane = Kerry GAA guy?


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: sweet potata! on April 29, 2009, 03:46:01 PM
Pat Spillane = Kerry GAA guy?

Yup that's him


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: Laxie on April 29, 2009, 03:47:09 PM
Pat Spillane = Kerry GAA guy?

Yup that's him

Please God...find me a bridge...lively!


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: PSpillane on April 29, 2009, 03:50:08 PM
Paul not Pat im fat and grey haired he's an ex sportsman.

Thanks for the welcome. Who do i get in touch with re advertising on the site? 


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: tikay on April 29, 2009, 03:51:17 PM
Paul not Pat im fat and grey haired he's an ex sportsman.

Thanks for the welcome. Who do i get in touch with re advertsing on the site? 

It's in hand already Paul, via Tighty.

PS - I love you. Does that help pump up the rate?


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: Laxie on April 29, 2009, 03:52:22 PM
Paul not Pat im fat and grey haired he's an ex sportsman.

Thanks for the welcome. Who do i get in touch with re advertising on the site? 

Will keep you over Pat any day of the week.  And that right there is a FACT!


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: kinboshi on April 29, 2009, 03:52:39 PM
Hi

I'm working with PP on the show and he is happy to have the bet if JD wants to have one, obv doesn't need to be for 10k, 1k perhaps? Loser donates to charity?

Flushy will you be a guest on the show next week?

Also i don't believe PP is the slightest bit offended by what has been posted here, please don't kill the debate! lol



Is that the real Pat Spillane?

My guess would be that he's Paul (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=335) Spillane (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=335) and not Pat.  But that's just a guess, mind.

Ya i highly doubted that the legendary Pat Spillane would be posting on Blonde Poker!...No offence to Blonde Poker of course ;)

We even have people post on here who are famous outside of their own country!


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: TightEnd on April 29, 2009, 03:53:17 PM
Paul not Pat im fat and grey haired he's an ex sportsman.

Thanks for the welcome. Who do i get in touch with re advertsing on the site? 

It's in hand already Paul, via Tighty.

PS - I love you. Does that help pump up the rate?

P.S Paul, I love you more. Grey hair does it for me. Rates bumped up accordingly.


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: Claw75 on April 29, 2009, 03:53:57 PM
do you two want this guy's money or to scare him off?!?!


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: TightEnd on April 29, 2009, 03:55:04 PM
do you two want this guy's money or to scare him off?!?!

If he has to pay Padraig's bar bill, his money before it runs out..........


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: tikay on April 29, 2009, 03:55:28 PM
Paul not Pat im fat and grey haired he's an ex sportsman.

Thanks for the welcome. Who do i get in touch with re advertsing on the site? 

It's in hand already Paul, via Tighty.

PS - I love you. Does that help pump up the rate?

P.S Paul, I love you more. Grey hair does it for me. Rates bumped up accordingly.

We can offer Trade Prices for Colonic Irrigation. That help?


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: Dingdell on April 29, 2009, 04:07:59 PM
Paul not Pat im fat and grey haired he's an ex sportsman.

Thanks for the welcome. Who do i get in touch with re advertsing on the site? 

It's in hand already Paul, via Tighty.

PS - I love you. Does that help pump up the rate?

P.S Paul, I love you more. Grey hair does it for me. Rates bumped up accordingly.

We can offer Trade Prices for Colonic Irrigation. That help?

That offer was only for you Tikay due to your bulk order. Don't go offering it to everyone!


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: byronkincaid on April 29, 2009, 05:35:11 PM
how about JD and PP both do an hour long training vid sitting at the same table. anything else will have loads of variance but with this you can tell a lot from a persons thoughts, about how good a player he is.

would need to be 6 max cash for many reasons imo, and I would suggest full stack play at say 2/4

you can record it on trial versions of camtasia and Eddie would maybe put them up on his site?



Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: kukushkin88 on April 30, 2009, 01:42:14 PM

Playing poker optimally or close to optimally is incredibly rare in poker. I would have thought no more than 1% of all players ever play anywhere near optimally for any period of time. Anytime most players feel that they are playing close optimally they are almost certainly just running good. Almost all of the players that do play close to optimally will be top internet professionals. Blonde has some of these players for example Flushy, Moorman and Pab, none of them would claim to play optimally all of the time. I am sure that they play optimally for a higher percentage of the time than for practical purposes every pre internet live circuit professional.

Discussion of the topic of optimal play wasn't my intention when I posted on this thread; knowing Alex well as I do was just joining in the banter that I felt had been incorrectly labelled as 'ill mannered vitriol'. Accurately conveying the intended mood when posting in a forum isn't always easy and I got it wrong again. Being respectful and polite to people within a poker context and outside of the poker environment is something that is hugely important to me.

I see no reason why the old pro vs internet whizz should ever be anything other a good natured debate. Like all good subjects for debate both sides are sure there is plenty of merit in their side of the discussion.



 


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: kinboshi on April 30, 2009, 01:48:38 PM

Playing poker optimally or close to optimally is incredibly rare in poker. I would have thought no more than 1% of all players ever play anywhere near optimally for any period of time. Anytime most players feel that they are playing close optimally they are almost certainly just running good. Almost all of the players that do play close to optimally will be top internet professionals. Blonde has some of these players for example Flushy, Moorman and Pab, none of them would claim to play optimally all of the time. I am sure that they play optimally for a higher percentage of the time than for practical purposes every pre internet live circuit professional.

Discussion of the topic of optimal play wasn't my intention when I posted on this thread; knowing Alex well as I do was just joining in the banter that I felt had been incorrectly labelled as 'ill mannered vitriol'. Accurately conveying the intended mood when posting in a forum isn't always easy and I got it wrong again. Being respectful and polite to people within a poker context and outside of the poker environment is something that is hugely important to me.

I see no reason why the old pro vs internet whizz should ever be anything other a good natured debate. Like all good subjects for debate both sides are sure there is plenty of merit in their side of the discussion.



 

Great post.


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: the sicilian on April 30, 2009, 01:59:05 PM

Playing poker optimally or close to optimally is incredibly rare in poker. I would have thought no more than 1% of all players ever play anywhere near optimally for any period of time. Anytime most players feel that they are playing close optimally they are almost certainly just running good. Almost all of the players that do play close to optimally will be top internet professionals. Blonde has some of these players for example Flushy, Moorman and Pab, none of them would claim to play optimally all of the time. I am sure that they play optimally for a higher percentage of the time than for practical purposes every pre internet live circuit professional.

Discussion of the topic of optimal play wasn't my intention when I posted on this thread; knowing Alex well as I do was just joining in the banter that I felt had been incorrectly labelled as 'ill mannered vitriol'. Accurately conveying the intended mood when posting in a forum isn't always easy and I got it wrong again. Being respectful and polite to people within a poker context and outside of the poker environment is something that is hugely important to me.

I see no reason why the old pro vs internet whizz should ever be anything other a good natured debate. Like all good subjects for debate both sides are sure there is plenty of merit in their side of the discussion.



 

What criteria qualifys for the title 'internet whizz' ?


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: boldie on April 30, 2009, 02:03:34 PM

Playing poker optimally or close to optimally is incredibly rare in poker. I would have thought no more than 1% of all players ever play anywhere near optimally for any period of time. Anytime most players feel that they are playing close optimally they are almost certainly just running good. Almost all of the players that do play close to optimally will be top internet professionals. Blonde has some of these players for example Flushy, Moorman and Pab, none of them would claim to play optimally all of the time. I am sure that they play optimally for a higher percentage of the time than for practical purposes every pre internet live circuit professional.

Discussion of the topic of optimal play wasn't my intention when I posted on this thread; knowing Alex well as I do was just joining in the banter that I felt had been incorrectly labelled as 'ill mannered vitriol'. Accurately conveying the intended mood when posting in a forum isn't always easy and I got it wrong again. Being respectful and polite to people within a poker context and outside of the poker environment is something that is hugely important to me.

I see no reason why the old pro vs internet whizz should ever be anything other a good natured debate. Like all good subjects for debate both sides are sure there is plenty of merit in their side of the discussion.



 

What criteria qualifys for the title 'internet whizz' ?

run as good as Moorman.


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: the sicilian on April 30, 2009, 02:07:58 PM
Or any Moorman for that matter....


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: Dale on April 30, 2009, 02:22:06 PM
this thread has run way off course

back to the matter at hand imo.....

is PP going to spend his spare 10K buying westlife and b*witched songs for the radio show or not?


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: Dubai on May 01, 2009, 02:35:38 PM
In and want a share of the action, especially if there is like a 20k minimum number of hands that he needs to play


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: pokerfan on May 01, 2009, 02:39:57 PM
In and want a share of the action, especially if there is like a 20k minimum number of hands that he needs to play
So over 20k hands how many bb/100 would make the bet fair to both parties?


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: MANTIS01 on May 01, 2009, 05:00:11 PM

Playing poker optimally or close to optimally is incredibly rare in poker. I would have thought no more than 1% of all players ever play anywhere near optimally for any period of time. Anytime most players feel that they are playing close optimally they are almost certainly just running good. Almost all of the players that do play close to optimally will be top internet professionals. Blonde has some of these players for example Flushy, Moorman and Pab, none of them would claim to play optimally all of the time. I am sure that they play optimally for a higher percentage of the time than for practical purposes every pre internet live circuit professional.

Discussion of the topic of optimal play wasn't my intention when I posted on this thread; knowing Alex well as I do was just joining in the banter that I felt had been incorrectly labelled as 'ill mannered vitriol'. Accurately conveying the intended mood when posting in a forum isn't always easy and I got it wrong again. Being respectful and polite to people within a poker context and outside of the poker environment is something that is hugely important to me.

I see no reason why the old pro vs internet whizz should ever be anything other a good natured debate. Like all good subjects for debate both sides are sure there is plenty of merit in their side of the discussion.



 

What criteria qualifys for the title 'internet whizz' ?

virgin?


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: Ironside on May 01, 2009, 05:55:19 PM

Playing poker optimally or close to optimally is incredibly rare in poker. I would have thought no more than 1% of all players ever play anywhere near optimally for any period of time. Anytime most players feel that they are playing close optimally they are almost certainly just running good. Almost all of the players that do play close to optimally will be top internet professionals. Blonde has some of these players for example Flushy, Moorman and Pab, none of them would claim to play optimally all of the time. I am sure that they play optimally for a higher percentage of the time than for practical purposes every pre internet live circuit professional.

Discussion of the topic of optimal play wasn't my intention when I posted on this thread; knowing Alex well as I do was just joining in the banter that I felt had been incorrectly labelled as 'ill mannered vitriol'. Accurately conveying the intended mood when posting in a forum isn't always easy and I got it wrong again. Being respectful and polite to people within a poker context and outside of the poker environment is something that is hugely important to me.

I see no reason why the old pro vs internet whizz should ever be anything other a good natured debate. Like all good subjects for debate both sides are sure there is plenty of merit in their side of the discussion.



 

What criteria qualifys for the title 'internet whizz' ?

virgin?

so thats the shrewdies in then


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: PSpillane on May 01, 2009, 06:05:51 PM
not sure this is allowed, try it anyway and apologies if it isnt.
First 3 shows archived

http://www.boylesports.asp/sections/poker/d.asp?show=ThePokerShow_Archives


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: Madone on May 01, 2009, 07:24:37 PM
I think this thread is a joke everyone abusing Padriag...he is a character and from what i see of poker players nowdyas there aint many about...just people with big egos and no personality whatsoever!

LONG LIVE PADRAIG and his humour!


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: kukushkin88 on May 01, 2009, 07:30:47 PM
Is there really much abusing of Padraig? Have another look, the general consensus is that he's a good guy that adds a lot to poker and does a lot of admirable work for charity.


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: Ironside on May 01, 2009, 09:46:27 PM
we have to admit that allothough padraig is a great guy his judging of poker playing abilty is pretty poor

after i got lucky turning the nuts against him he tried to tell marcel luske that i could out play him


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: AlexMartin on May 02, 2009, 10:52:46 PM
ok, i just played 7k hands of 50nl. Winrate, 1.2bb/100. The games are riddled with shortstacks and nits with very few fish.

This would be a great bet if someone was interested. I am sure Padraig is a great player but i doubt he would have the skills to beat this game. A 200nl player with a 3bb/100 winrate would be a -0.5bb/100 loser at 50nl after increased rake if his game was identical but scaled down on ipoker (thanks Keys/2+2). Lump on Dubai.

 




Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: MC on May 03, 2009, 11:25:23 AM
ok, i just played 7k hands of 50nl. Winrate, 1.2bb/100. The games are riddled with shortstacks and nits with very few fish.

This would be a great bet if someone was interested. I am sure Padraig is a great player but i doubt he would have the skills to beat this game. A 200nl player with a 3bb/100 winrate would be a -0.5bb/100 loser at 50nl after increased rake if his game was identical but scaled down on ipoker (thanks Keys/2+2). Lump on Dubai.

Definitely agree with this...


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: cambo on May 05, 2009, 02:56:48 PM
lol why is there 12 guests viewing this thread?


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: Ironside on May 05, 2009, 03:29:34 PM
most will be bots


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: creepy_benji on May 05, 2009, 05:16:33 PM
ok, i just played 7k hands of 50nl. Winrate, 1.2bb/100. The games are riddled with shortstacks and nits with very few fish.

This would be a great bet if someone was interested. I am sure Padraig is a great player but i doubt he would have the skills to beat this game. A 200nl player with a 3bb/100 winrate would be a -0.5bb/100 loser at 50nl after increased rake if his game was identical but scaled down on ipoker (thanks Keys/2+2). Lump on Dubai.

 




Do you mean if his winrate stayed the same?

Since 200nl is harder to beat a 3bb/100 winrate there could translate to a 6 or 7+ bb/100 winrate at 50nl.


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: AlexMartin on May 06, 2009, 06:23:34 AM
finalising details now, gl padraig!



Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: Laxie on May 06, 2009, 06:26:51 AM
finalising details now, gl padraig!



For real?!  Very best of luck to you Alex!


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: sovietsong on May 06, 2009, 07:40:55 AM
This will be epic!!


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: action man on May 06, 2009, 01:45:15 PM
wow, whose got money on? what are the details?


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: Rupert on October 15, 2010, 06:50:13 AM
results?


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: action man on October 15, 2010, 07:40:07 AM
results?


padraig got to 1 hand under the limit set and fell asleep in a drunken stooper, when he woke he remembered nothing


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: AlexMartin on October 16, 2010, 08:19:09 PM
superb bump. met him and it was pretty awkward, really nice guy and obviously a super talented live player respected by almost everyone and a great laugh tbh. that being said i still think the way 6max 50nl is nowadays id be happy to give this a whirl at evens :)



Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: geordieneil on October 16, 2010, 11:27:33 PM
padraig is hilarious and one of the true entertainers of live "tv" poker. ok maybe he has fell behind the way poker has changed but for people to attack his ability is ridic....did he not make the f/t of the 1999 wsop m/e....win a LNP series too...aswell as many other decent results, over $1.6 million in recorded live winnings is a great achievement.....whilst being totally pissed aswell lol.

  gl to him is all i say


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: the sicilian on October 17, 2010, 11:09:11 AM
Love listening to Padraig commentating, hilarious...bet his a scream to go out with..


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: GreekStein on October 19, 2010, 10:37:43 AM
superb bump. met him and it was pretty awkward, really nice guy and obviously a super talented live player respected by almost everyone and a great laugh tbh. that being said i still think the way 6max 50nl is nowadays id be happy to give this a whirl at evens :)



LOL.

I'd give him 2/1 on beating 50NL. No doubt he's a nice guy, but he isn't good at poker.


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: JaffaCake on October 19, 2010, 12:12:15 PM
superb bump. met him and it was pretty awkward, really nice guy and obviously a super talented live player respected by almost everyone and a great laugh tbh. that being said i still think the way 6max 50nl is nowadays id be happy to give this a whirl at evens :)



LOL.

I'd give him 2/1 on beating 50NL. No doubt he's a nice guy, but he isn't good at poker.

He wanted to bet 10k at evens, I wouldn't have thought there's much chance u don't have a bet there mr greeky


Title: Re: Padraig bets Alex Martin $10,000 he can beat the .25/.50 game!
Post by: GreekStein on October 19, 2010, 12:22:09 PM
superb bump. met him and it was pretty awkward, really nice guy and obviously a super talented live player respected by almost everyone and a great laugh tbh. that being said i still think the way 6max 50nl is nowadays id be happy to give this a whirl at evens :)



LOL.

I'd give him 2/1 on beating 50NL. No doubt he's a nice guy, but he isn't good at poker.

He wanted to bet 10k at evens, I wouldn't have thought there's much chance u don't have a bet there mr greeky

Willing to halves with Alex on the bet. Not putting up 10k myself. Especially not the way Karl is skinting me atm.

However, I'd want to know that he's playing every single hand himself.