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Hi, this interesting hand arose earlier today, just wondering what you guy think I should do on the turn? What about the rest of the hand?

Villan is a 37/13/3.3
Turn aggro is 39%

***** Hand History for Game 119616051 ***** (Pacific)
$1000.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Friday, May 01, 02:15:49 ET 2009
Table Santander (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Seat 6: DLizzle ( $970.00 USD )
Seat 7: Hero ( $1242.00 USD )
Seat 8: dji21 ( $945.38 USD )
Seat 10: Phho86 ( $2122.00 USD )
dji21 posts small blind [$5.00 USD].
Phho86 posts big blind [$10.00 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [  Js Kd ]
DLizzle folds
Hero raises [$35.00 USD]
dji21 calls [$30.00 USD]
Phho86 calls [$25.00 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ks, 6d, 3d ]
dji21 checks
Phho86 checks
Hero bets [$70.00 USD]
dji21 calls [$70.00 USD]
Phho86 folds
** Dealing Turn ** [ Jd ]
dji21 checks
Hero bets [$182.00 USD]
dji21 raises [$364.00 USD]

I stick em all in his eye here (although I dont play at this level).

He could easily have Adkx and do this. If he has a made flush then it will be a small one (maybe an open ended str8 flush?)

You have plenty outs both with 2nd nut flush if he has a small made flush and the house as well.

You could well even be ahead in this spot already. He has plenty fold equity here with a semi made hand!

How often does he cold call in the sb?  What does he think of you?

He certainly might cold call with Axdd also 2 broadway cards - do you think he would 3bet KQ pre? He could have QdTx or also have KJ.

kinda sucks because he's not a gd aggro reg. I guess it depends if you think he floats the flop / is capable of turning a weak made hand into a bluff, knowing he can rep a flush.

any extra info graham to go by? how many cbets is he calling and did he snap call the flop or was there any pause at all?

well, shoving is obviously terrible. folding probably slightly > calling  as he has so many random suited cards in his range and i doubt he bluffraises that often.

edit, oops arrow wrong way round.

I say you are unlucky to be drawing dead here and you have to get the chips in

fyp

tough one if you call the turn rr it is set up for a pot bet by him on 5th and imo you are committed to calling the river if he bets.. my gut says after looking at his agg stats and bet sizing/stack that he has the flush and more so if he called quick on the flop... i'll do some maths on it when i get a chance..you'll be around a 3to1 dog to a non ace flush,,and well behind if he has the AXdd... anyone want to do some maths feel free... any other info or history on him?

any objections for checking the turn after villain check calls flop?

Fair point well made lol

I did some calcualtions using poker stove and vs his range here I am actually a 25% dog. I think the correct play on my part would be to call the min raise and if a J, K or diamond comes on the river get the money in. My only concern with stacking on a diamond river is that it is very difficult to get paid off by a lower flush (e.g Td 9d probably wont stack on a 4th diamond river).

Anyway I ended up shoving (with hindsight this is obvs not the best play as im 25% dog vs his range, but given that my hand looks deceptively strong I think I can be forgiven) he tanked and called with the nuts Ad Qd , LOL, the river was the 5d.

Not to be results orientated but I would have stacked the river anyway.

Anyway I thought this was a really interesting hand, although my hand looks amazingly strong esp with the Kd (which is probably what got me stuck on the hand), we can see vs his range Im a big dog.

You have top 2 with a redraw in a raised pot in a button v blind situation in holdem for 94.5bbs effective.

Does not require more than a seconds thought

dubai ur the best....^^^^^^^^^^

I'm kind of agreeing with this.

Would there be as much thought required if it was NL100 and we were sat with $95 and had committed about $30?

his line is either nuts or air, we have diamond/2 pair redraws vitrually locked. In a w/a w/b situation with a nut like this GET VALUE FROM HIS SPEW. Call if you are gonna continue playing.

can rule out AdKx as he didnt 3 bet pre

From stats he is a clown, so the check minraise is usually a huge hand.

I would call and fold river if i dont improve