Title: Goons v Mancs Part2 Post by: Colchester Kev on May 05, 2009, 04:06:13 PM Tonight I am re investing the profit from last weeks HT/FT winnings
£20 Man Utd 7/4 £10 Draw/Utd 9/2 £2 Ronaldo first goal Utd 3-1 100/1 £2 Rooney first goal DRAW 1-1 28/1 £1 Ronaldo first goal Utd 2-0 45/1 Your bets ?? Title: Re: Goons v Mancs Part2 Post by: Graham C on May 05, 2009, 04:27:58 PM Arsenal to win and RVP to score first (seperate bets)
Come on you Gooners! Title: Re: Goons v Mancs Part2 Post by: Matt50 on May 05, 2009, 04:43:40 PM Ronaldo 1st goal & Utd win 1-0
Ronaldo 1st goal & 1-1 draw Adebayor 1st goal & Arse win 1-0 Adebayor 1st goal & 1-1 draw All at 42 or better on Betfair Title: Re: Goons v Mancs Part2 Post by: nirvana on May 05, 2009, 06:01:10 PM Arsenal to win 5-1, haven't checked the odds yet
Title: Re: Goons v Mancs Part2 Post by: Josedinho on May 05, 2009, 06:16:18 PM Just a 5er on Rooney 1-0 for interest. Off to find best odds.
Title: Re: Goons v Mancs Part2 Post by: maldini32 on May 05, 2009, 06:16:54 PM arsenal barca double plz
Title: Re: Goons v Mancs Part2 Post by: T_Mar on May 05, 2009, 06:32:03 PM Backed the gunners at 2.96 on bf..... big price i reckon
Title: Re: Goons v Mancs Part2 Post by: TightEnd on May 05, 2009, 07:53:39 PM Park, unsung player or what.
Title: Re: Goons v Mancs Part2 Post by: Colchester Kev on May 05, 2009, 07:54:30 PM Harsh on Gibbs, but hey ho ... GTFO GOONS !
Title: Re: Goons v Mancs Part2 Post by: cambo on May 05, 2009, 07:55:29 PM game over , what movies start @ 8pm?
Title: Re: Goons v Mancs Part2 Post by: Jon MW on May 05, 2009, 07:57:03 PM :D
Title: Re: Goons v Mancs Part2 Post by: rossfourfive on May 05, 2009, 07:58:16 PM Fk off Arse. Ruined all my bets. Plz score 2 arsenal.
Title: Re: Goons v Mancs Part2 Post by: TheChipPrince on May 05, 2009, 07:58:20 PM fkin goons, gg...
Title: Re: Goons v Mancs Part2 Post by: TightEnd on May 05, 2009, 07:59:03 PM game over.
Proberly. Title: Re: Goons v Mancs Part2 Post by: Colchester Kev on May 05, 2009, 08:03:07 PM Director must be a Spurs fan .... loads of shots of teary eyed goons ... weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Title: Re: Goons v Mancs Part2 Post by: George2Loose on May 05, 2009, 08:19:27 PM Arsenal to win 5-1, haven't checked the odds yet [ ] good bet Title: Re: Goons v Mancs Part2 Post by: cambo on May 05, 2009, 08:35:44 PM serious lack of bottle in this arsenal team
Title: Re: Goons v Mancs Part2 Post by: TightEnd on May 05, 2009, 08:37:19 PM when Ronaldo's goal went in it was if a giant foot trod and squashed the whole stadium. You could literally sense the whole stadium, minus the away end, give up!
Title: Re: Goons v Mancs Part2 Post by: Nem on May 05, 2009, 08:45:09 PM ;yippee; rotflmfao ;yippee; rotflmfao ;yippee; rotflmfao ;yippee; rotflmfao Title: Re: Goons v Mancs Part2 Post by: cambo on May 05, 2009, 08:49:27 PM stewards looking for an "atmosphere" ?
Title: Re: Goons v Mancs Part2 Post by: cambo on May 05, 2009, 09:01:53 PM lmao
gr8 goal Title: Re: Goons v Mancs Part2 Post by: maccol on May 05, 2009, 09:03:20 PM what a goal
Title: Re: Goons v Mancs Part2 Post by: gatso on May 05, 2009, 09:05:47 PM great stuff. awesome display from ronaldo tonight. love the fact that at the start of that move he plays a backheel on the edge of his own box and still gets up the other end to score
Title: Re: Goons v Mancs Part2 Post by: jizzemm on May 05, 2009, 09:13:28 PM just got in
ffs thats all Title: Re: Goons v Mancs Part2 Post by: gatso on May 05, 2009, 09:16:22 PM surely utd have to appeal that red
Title: Re: Goons v Mancs Part2 Post by: Pawprint on May 05, 2009, 09:16:52 PM That has got to be looked at.
Only mistaken identity would be overturned. wtf ? gg Referee Title: Re: Goons v Mancs Part2 Post by: rossfourfive on May 05, 2009, 09:18:39 PM What a joke. Got the fkn ball. Do they not look at appeals in champions league?
Poor poor Fletch. He was immense tonight aswell. Title: Re: Goons v Mancs Part2 Post by: jizzemm on May 05, 2009, 09:19:41 PM lol
Title: Re: Goons v Mancs Part2 Post by: TightEnd on May 05, 2009, 09:22:15 PM lol why? horrible decision, denies the lad the chance to play in Rome. Irrespective of who you support this is a shame Title: Re: Goons v Mancs Part2 Post by: George2Loose on May 05, 2009, 09:26:48 PM lol why? horrible decision, denies the lad the chance to play in Rome. Irrespective of who you support this is a shame agree 100% with this. Says on bbc that United can't appeal this so Fletcher misses the final. Title: Re: Goons v Mancs Part2 Post by: T_Mar on May 05, 2009, 09:27:02 PM Backed the gunners at 2.96 on bf..... big price i reckon sigh Title: Re: Goons v Mancs Part2 Post by: Pawprint on May 05, 2009, 09:29:15 PM I can see why the ref gave it. His view of the ball was blocked by both players and if he thinks it's a foul then Fletcher is the last man and stops a goalscoring opportunity.
It doesn't really make any difference to this game, but for Darren Fletcher, it makes a big difference. He has been a major player in our Champs League games this season and after sitting on the bench for the final last season, I think he was a certain to start this seasons final. Very wrong that there's no way of looking at an incident afterwards in which the referee has made a genuine mistake. Title: Re: Goons v Mancs Part2 Post by: Colchester Kev on May 05, 2009, 09:37:01 PM Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Ronaldo could have scored first and got me an extra 200 notes ... but hey ho GTFO GOONS !!!
Title: Re: Goons v Mancs Part2 Post by: Hairydude on May 05, 2009, 09:44:17 PM I can see why the ref gave it. His view of the ball was blocked by both players and if he thinks it's a foul then Fletcher is the last man and stops a goalscoring opportunity. Very wrong that there's no way of looking at an incident afterwards in which the referee has made a genuine mistake. Ref can only give it if he is certain no?? Dont they say if theres an element of doubt then they cant award it?? I think the fact that they cant appeal it makes a mockery of the competition...Fletchers been a decent solid player and you really have to feel for him; but in terms of this being UEFA's most glamorous showpiece tournament- what happens if Messi does something similar tomorrow(as an example) and Barca Qualify? The showpiece final would be ruined because of a ridiculous rule. Title: Re: Goons v Mancs Part2 Post by: Colchester Kev on May 05, 2009, 09:52:37 PM Sad for Fletcher ... as soon as that happened real time i said "what a tackle" ... then looked on in disbelief as the ref rushed for the red. Poor.
Also the goons should have had a man off, Adebyor's tackle on Carrick was shocking. Loved the goons walking out on the hour mark ... Carlsberg dont do Tuesdays, but if they did .... Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Title: Re: Goons v Mancs Part2 Post by: maldini32 on May 05, 2009, 09:57:58 PM Fletchers unlucky but so were spurs when gomes got the ball v carrick. Cant appeal the decision, tough shit, just deal with it.
Title: Re: Goons v Mancs Part2 Post by: maldini32 on May 05, 2009, 09:58:59 PM Hope barca give me a better run for my money. At least i shipped a seat to gala liverpool on friday!
Title: Re: Goons v Mancs Part2 Post by: Colchester Kev on May 05, 2009, 10:06:15 PM After a fingertip search of the offices at the library, someone found the key to the goons trophy cabinet
(http://www.sxc.hu/pic/m/r/ro/romychamo/474424_old_key.jpg) Title: Re: Goons v Mancs Part2 Post by: George2Loose on May 05, 2009, 10:07:48 PM After a fingertip search of the offices at the library, someone found the key to the goons trophy cabinet (http://www.sxc.hu/pic/m/r/ro/romychamo/474424_old_key.jpg) U sure Kev? I've heard Liverpool are missing theirs too.... Title: Re: Goons v Mancs Part2 Post by: Colchester Kev on May 05, 2009, 10:10:35 PM LOL
Title: Re: Goons v Mancs Part2 Post by: Hairydude on May 05, 2009, 10:12:28 PM Fletchers unlucky but so were spurs when gomes got the ball v carrick. Cant appeal the decision, tough shit, just deal with it. Completely different decision- your talking about video evidence to make on the spot decisions(which would slow the game down)... we're talking about retrospective decisions regarding sendings off- players can be banned in the champions league by video evidence so why cant red cards be appealed and thus rescinded Title: Re: Goons v Mancs Part2 Post by: Maxriddles on May 05, 2009, 10:27:18 PM Fletchers unlucky but so were spurs when gomes got the ball v carrick. Cant appeal the decision, tough shit, just deal with it. Completely different decision- your talking about video evidence to make on the spot decisions(which would slow the game down)... we're talking about retrospective decisions regarding sendings off- players can be banned in the champions league by video evidence so why cant red cards be appealed and thus rescinded Can it not be wiped in the unlikely event of a ref coming out and saying he got it wrong? Title: Re: Goons v Mancs Part2 Post by: Hairydude on May 05, 2009, 10:30:37 PM Not according to ITV- there is no appeals commitee at UEFA-only for mistaken identity which is a bit meh!!! especially when you consider it is a club competition and pretty much every domestic club competition allows appeals with regards to sendings off
Title: Re: Goons v Mancs Part2 Post by: maldini32 on May 05, 2009, 10:42:33 PM Fletchers unlucky but so were spurs when gomes got the ball v carrick. Cant appeal the decision, tough shit, just deal with it. Completely different decision- your talking about video evidence to make on the spot decisions(which would slow the game down)... we're talking about retrospective decisions regarding sendings off- players can be banned in the champions league by video evidence so why cant red cards be appealed and thus rescinded Not really, they're both wrong decisions. And i aint talking about video evidence. Im talking about a shit decision costing a team just like it cost spurs this has cost united. Ducy? Title: Re: Goons v Mancs Part2 Post by: Jon MW on May 05, 2009, 10:48:43 PM Fletchers unlucky but so were spurs when gomes got the ball v carrick. Cant appeal the decision, tough shit, just deal with it. Completely different decision- your talking about video evidence to make on the spot decisions(which would slow the game down)... we're talking about retrospective decisions regarding sendings off- players can be banned in the champions league by video evidence so why cant red cards be appealed and thus rescinded Not really, they're both wrong decisions. And i aint talking about video evidence. Im talking about a shit decision costing a team just like it cost spurs this has cost united. Ducy? lol How is it relevant what teams are involved? Title: Re: Goons v Mancs Part2 Post by: George2Loose on May 05, 2009, 11:01:12 PM Fletchers unlucky but so were spurs when gomes got the ball v carrick. Cant appeal the decision, tough shit, just deal with it. Completely different decision- your talking about video evidence to make on the spot decisions(which would slow the game down)... we're talking about retrospective decisions regarding sendings off- players can be banned in the champions league by video evidence so why cant red cards be appealed and thus rescinded Not really, they're both wrong decisions. And i aint talking about video evidence. Im talking about a shit decision costing a team just like it cost spurs this has cost united. Ducy? lol How is it relevant what teams are involved? Cos Ty is a Liverpool fan :) Title: Re: Goons v Mancs Part2 Post by: maldini32 on May 05, 2009, 11:03:21 PM Fletchers unlucky but so were spurs when gomes got the ball v carrick. Cant appeal the decision, tough shit, just deal with it. Completely different decision- your talking about video evidence to make on the spot decisions(which would slow the game down)... we're talking about retrospective decisions regarding sendings off- players can be banned in the champions league by video evidence so why cant red cards be appealed and thus rescinded Not really, they're both wrong decisions. And i aint talking about video evidence. Im talking about a shit decision costing a team just like it cost spurs this has cost united. Ducy? lol How is it relevant what teams are involved? Cos Ty is a Liverpool fan :) Title: Re: Goons v Mancs Part2 Post by: Acidmouse on May 05, 2009, 11:05:10 PM Bitter pool fan alert...
Title: Re: Goons v Mancs Part2 Post by: George2Loose on May 05, 2009, 11:12:41 PM Fletchers unlucky but so were spurs when gomes got the ball v carrick. Cant appeal the decision, tough shit, just deal with it. Completely different decision- your talking about video evidence to make on the spot decisions(which would slow the game down)... we're talking about retrospective decisions regarding sendings off- players can be banned in the champions league by video evidence so why cant red cards be appealed and thus rescinded Not really, they're both wrong decisions. And i aint talking about video evidence. Im talking about a shit decision costing a team just like it cost spurs this has cost united. Ducy? lol How is it relevant what teams are involved? Cos Ty is a Liverpool fan :) Don't blame ya bud- got to grab those fleeting moments of United misfortune cos they are few and far between..... Title: Re: Goons v Mancs Part2 Post by: maldini32 on May 05, 2009, 11:23:33 PM Especially when you lot run like usain bolt.
Title: Re: Goons v Mancs Part2 Post by: mondatoo on May 05, 2009, 11:28:17 PM Maldini u must admit a player missing a final of cl unfairly is a bit different to a bad pen decision tbf,very harsh imo and if uefa had any balls it would be overuled
Title: Re: Goons v Mancs Part2 Post by: jizzemm on May 05, 2009, 11:39:04 PM Maldini u must admit a player missing a final of cl unfairly is a bit different to a bad pen decision tbf,very harsh imo and if uefa had any balls it would be overuled +1 BTW the lol coment I made earlier was for the sending off before i realised that it cant be overturned.. But you can see from replays why the ref gave it that way.. Title: Re: Goons v Mancs Part2 Post by: The Baron on May 06, 2009, 12:06:46 AM Barca FTW one time.
Title: Re: Goons v Mancs Part2 Post by: Graham C on May 06, 2009, 12:09:00 AM meh, gg Man U,
TBF, we never looked like winning. Maybe in the first 7 minutes we looked ok and it may be a game, but after the error from Gibbs, it was never good. Sure it was an error and I don't hold it againt him, and the second goal was brilliance on the part of Ronaldo, but we were never in it. I felt like phoning up the stadoum at 50 minutes to get a message to Arsene that we needed 4 goals, surely something should get through to the side, but then the 3rd went in and that was it. Getting two minutes or 5 passes together would have been ok, but we couldn't and gave the ball away when we 'only' needed 3, what chance did we have with needing 4? Sad to say that our star players never turned up and we looked so poor in the company of greatness. Man U dominated the game from start to finish and I have to say, I applaude them. The error from Gibbs sums it up really - we're a team for the future. Well, I'm sorry to say, but we' ve been a team for the future for the last 6 or 7 years, surely the future has arrived? GG, WP Title: Re: Goons v Mancs Part2 Post by: TheChipPrince on May 06, 2009, 02:32:12 AM When I read that:
The error from Gibbs sums it up really - we're a team for the future. I was just about to say this: Well, I'm sorry to say, but we' ve been a team for the future for the last 6 or 7 years, surely the future has arrived? (but not the ''we've'' bit obv) Title: Re: Goons v Mancs Part2 Post by: david3103 on May 06, 2009, 05:48:01 AM Barca FTW one time. +1 one time meaning in the SF second leg I'm assuming? Then United ftw in Rome The last few games have have lacked tension, (including THFC) maybe Barca will give us a game Title: Re: Goons v Mancs Part2 Post by: sweet potata! on May 06, 2009, 01:14:25 PM Barca FTW one time. +1 one time meaning in the SF second leg I'm assuming? Then United ftw in Rome The last few games have have lacked tension, (including THFC) maybe Barca will give us a game Thats probably because as usual ManU got a piss easy draw.Only they can land in the side of the draw that excludes Liverpool, Chelski and Barca(top 3 fav's excluding ManU) I can assure you, Mancs would know they were in a game if they played any of those over 2 legs , as opposed to poxy Porto and Spineless Gooner's Title: Re: Goons v Mancs Part2 Post by: david3103 on May 06, 2009, 02:03:45 PM Barca FTW one time. +1 one time meaning in the SF second leg I'm assuming? Then United ftw in Rome The last few games have have lacked tension, (including THFC) maybe Barca will give us a game Thats probably because as usual ManU got a piss easy draw.Only they can land in the side of the draw that excludes Liverpool, Chelski and Barca(top 3 fav's excluding ManU) I can assure you, Mancs would know they were in a game if they played any of those over 2 legs , as opposed to poxy Porto and Spineless Gooner's do i detect a certain bitterness? rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao Title: Re: Goons v Mancs Part2 Post by: Acidmouse on May 06, 2009, 02:22:00 PM Man Utd destroyed the gooners over the two legs, it could have all been over in the first 30mins of the first leg if truth be told. No one has spanked Arse like that for a long time. I dont particular like Man Utd but jeez all the haters coming on this thread talking right bollocks. gg
Title: Re: Goons v Mancs Part2 Post by: sweet potata! on May 06, 2009, 03:05:23 PM Barca FTW one time. +1 one time meaning in the SF second leg I'm assuming? Then United ftw in Rome The last few games have have lacked tension, (including THFC) maybe Barca will give us a game Thats probably because as usual ManU got a piss easy draw.Only they can land in the side of the draw that excludes Liverpool, Chelski and Barca(top 3 fav's excluding ManU) I can assure you, Mancs would know they were in a game if they played any of those over 2 legs , as opposed to poxy Porto and Spineless Gooner's do i detect a certain bitterness? rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao No bitterness at all, you said there was no tension in any games recently all I'm saying is that the reason for this is probably due to the easy draw you's got. DUCY? Do you not think Barca , Chelsea or Liverpool would have been a far sterner test ? And you may have had some tension ? Title: Re: Goons v Mancs Part2 Post by: Nem on May 06, 2009, 03:55:31 PM Definite penalty. Yeah he got the ball but it was a challenge from behind in the area, so therefore a penalty.
Nothing like the Gomes incident imo. Title: Re: Goons v Mancs Part2 Post by: david3103 on May 06, 2009, 04:05:14 PM Barca FTW one time. +1 one time meaning in the SF second leg I'm assuming? Then United ftw in Rome The last few games have have lacked tension, (including THFC) maybe Barca will give us a game Thats probably because as usual ManU got a piss easy draw.Only they can land in the side of the draw that excludes Liverpool, Chelski and Barca(top 3 fav's excluding ManU) I can assure you, Mancs would know they were in a game if they played any of those over 2 legs , as opposed to poxy Porto and Spineless Gooner's do i detect a certain bitterness? rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao No bitterness at all, you said there was no tension in any games recently all I'm saying is that the reason for this is probably due to the easy draw you's got. DUCY? Do you not think Barca , Chelsea or Liverpool would have been a far sterner test ? And you may have had some tension ? Liverpool - maybe, based on the two league games Chelsea - based on the game at OT, hardly. Barcelona - i think we'll find out on May 27 However, even at 0-2 at home to THFC , and, with or without the penalty, there was very little tension as Ronaldo, Rooney. Tevez and Berbatov went on the rampage. The dip in form that came at the time we played Liverpool has passed now and with the defence having settled back to it's best, a midfield playing with confidence and the aforementioned attacking options I sense that th rest of the season could feel a little anti-climactic. DUCY? PS - dodgy refereeing decisions even themselves out Title: Re: Goons v Mancs Part2 Post by: Josedinho on May 06, 2009, 04:32:16 PM Definite penalty. Yeah he got the ball but it was a challenge from behind in the area, so therefore a penalty. Why does it matter that it is from behind? Nothing like the Gomes incident imo. Title: Re: Goons v Mancs Part2 Post by: sweet potata! on May 06, 2009, 04:43:31 PM Definite penalty. Yeah he got the ball but it was a challenge from behind in the area, so therefore a penalty. Why does it matter that it is from behind? Nothing like the Gomes incident imo. I think tackles from behind are deemed to be fouls regardless of contact been made with the ball or not. Title: Re: Goons v Mancs Part2 Post by: david3103 on May 06, 2009, 04:53:27 PM Definite penalty. Yeah he got the ball but it was a challenge from behind in the area, so therefore a penalty. Why does it matter that it is from behind? Nothing like the Gomes incident imo. I think tackles from behind are deemed to be fouls regardless of contact been made with the ball or not. The 'tackle from behind' involves coming through the player - the tackle Fketcher made was from the side surely? Title: Re: Goons v Mancs Part2 Post by: Colchester Kev on May 06, 2009, 04:55:17 PM Definite penalty. Yeah he got the ball but it was a challenge from behind in the area, so therefore a penalty. Why does it matter that it is from behind? Nothing like the Gomes incident imo. I think tackles from behind are deemed to be fouls regardless of contact been made with the ball or not. The 'tackle from behind' involves coming through the player - the tackle Fketcher made was from the side surely? +1 He didnt go through the player to get the ball, he went round him. Ridic decision. Title: Re: Goons v Mancs Part2 Post by: Josedinho on May 06, 2009, 04:57:36 PM It doesn't matter where you make the tackle from. Tackles from behind used to be red cards but they changed it to wreckless tackles were red cards and Fletcher wasn't wreckless therefore it's just your standard tackle. Play on, no card.
Title: Re: Goons v Mancs Part2 Post by: George2Loose on May 06, 2009, 05:17:31 PM If this was against Man U no one would be disputing the fact that it was a clean challenge and not a red card.
WE ARE THE BEST IN THE WORLD- face it. Back to back CL FTW. Bring on Barca or Chelsea- we don't care. Double double two years on the trot UNITED! Title: Re: Goons v Mancs Part2 Post by: Pawprint on May 06, 2009, 05:36:46 PM As I said before, the decision was given and that's that.
What's wrong with the whole thing is that there is no chance to appeal a red card in European competition, and it doesn't matter which club the player plays for. That's just wrong. Title: Re: Goons v Mancs Part2 Post by: henrik777 on May 06, 2009, 06:14:15 PM Gibbs error ? Are you serious ? How would you suggest to him he does not make the same mistake again, three foot long spikes instead of studs ?
It was misfortune but you seriously can't blame the player. Sandy Title: Re: Goons v Mancs Part2 Post by: Colchester Kev on May 06, 2009, 06:18:03 PM I think it is total bollocks that a panel can give retrospective punishments if a ref has missed an incident, yet cannot do anything when the ref makes a complete fkin howler.
Title: Re: Goons v Mancs Part2 Post by: nirvana on May 06, 2009, 06:29:06 PM Never turned up - fair play to Utd - outclassed & outplayed for 2 games but then they are a reasonably handy side.
I think it was a definite pen, yes his left foot scraped the ball but his right foot came through and knocked the player down who may have retrieved said ball. But I do think its stupid harsh that the ref then 'has' to send the player off. Always thought this as I don't see why a red card for a mistimed tackle as last man is necessary, the penalyty is exactly what is says on the tin. Keep straight reds for violent conduct, dangerous play, looking like Rooney, or a deliberate, so called professional, foul. Felt very bad for Fletcher, he along with Park had great games and I could start to see a bit of why Anderson is highly rated too. Title: Re: Goons v Mancs Part2 Post by: Maxriddles on May 06, 2009, 06:46:56 PM It may not change a thing but if the ref was any sort of a man at all he would come out and admit he got it completely wrong.
One of the worst red cards I've seen in a while, not even a foul IMO unless tackling has been outlawed. Is football now non contact? I'm no Man U fan but I think it's shocking that a decent pro, not a superstar, is going to miss out on such a huge game because the ref got it wrong and everyone knows he did. If UEFA want to promote fair play they should overturn this decision or privately suggest to the ref that he makes it easier for them to do so by coming out and saying he got it wrong. |