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Title: 6 Max QQ OOP
Post by: TightEnd on May 05, 2009, 11:28:20 PM
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6 max $1-2 cash

Seat 3: UTG ($220.65 in chips)
Seat 4: UTG+1 ($202 in chips)
Seat 5: Cut Off ($167 in chips)
Seat 6: Button ($185 in chips)
Seat 7: Hero ($230.10 in chips)
Seat 8: Big blind ($203 in chips)

Hero: posts small blind $1
Big Blind: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [ Qs Qh]

UTG: raises $4 to $6
UTG+1: folds
Cut Off: calls $6
Button: calls $6
Hero raises $22 to $28
Big Blind: folds
UTG raises $44 to $72
Cut Off: folds
Button: folds

back to Hero

villain is 33/24/3.09 over a small sample, loose player.

Hero is 19/16


What do you do here? 

Also, Have I underdone the size of the re-raise OOP please?


Title: Re: 6 Max QQ OOP
Post by: AlexMartin on May 06, 2009, 12:41:16 AM
super standard 100bb shove here at 200nl w QQ. embrace the variance and run good.

Fact that hero is 19/16 is scary, coz if villain is using a hud, he will never shove JJ/1010, but whatever, gg.


Title: Re: 6 Max QQ OOP
Post by: UpTheMariners on May 06, 2009, 12:54:21 AM
dont slowroll the guy... have you shoved already?


Title: Re: 6 Max QQ OOP
Post by: TightEnd on May 06, 2009, 02:01:41 AM

Fact that hero is 19/16 is scary, coz if villain is using a hud, he will never shove JJ/1010, but whatever, gg.

surely this is the point?

forgive the full ring old skool nittiness, but surely this is a fold?


Title: Re: 6 Max QQ OOP
Post by: action man on May 06, 2009, 02:39:12 AM
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Title: Re: 6 Max QQ OOP
Post by: AlexMartin on May 06, 2009, 06:27:26 AM

Fact that hero is 19/16 is scary, coz if villain is using a hud, he will never shove JJ/1010, but whatever, gg.

surely this is the point?

forgive the full ring old skool nittiness, but surely this is a fold?

not on your life. Small sample size too you said. He has AK more often than he has AA/KK, what u reckon hes gonna do with that?

Your range should be felting should always include AK/ JJ+ v this guy, he looks like he can play 6max so he's prolly gonna do some weird 4bets sometimes/protect against percieved squeezes etcetcetc.  Barring something odd like cold 5 action u can never fold QQ here.


Title: Re: 6 Max QQ OOP
Post by: noble1 on May 06, 2009, 09:56:47 AM

Fact that hero is 19/16 is scary, coz if villain is using a hud, he will never shove JJ/1010, but whatever, gg.

surely this is the point?

forgive the full ring old skool nittiness, but surely this is a fold?

not on your life. Small sample size too you said. He has AK more often than he has AA/KK, what u reckon hes gonna do with that?

Your range should be felting should always include AK/ JJ+ v this guy, he looks like he can play 6max so he's prolly gonna do some weird 4bets sometimes/protect against percieved squeezes etcetcetc.  Barring something odd like cold 5 action u can never fold QQ here.

i think QQ is good here,i agree that villain seems to know what he is doing..If it was me in his seat i'd have you marked as a std tag - so your range to 3bet a utg raise i would put as QQ+ AK some tags i'll add JJ so i find throwing a curve ball in by 4betting tends to get them to throw away JJ QQ AK as like you are considering here..
Also 19/16? expand your ranges tighty just a wee bit.. :)


Title: Re: 6 Max QQ OOP
Post by: paulhouk03 on May 06, 2009, 12:49:00 PM
Ha du ken


Standard imo


Title: Re: 6 Max QQ OOP
Post by: LaggingBehind on May 15, 2009, 04:45:30 PM
I'm shoving here against this player type as there is plenty we are ahead of that he either folds or calls with. I had a similar situation with QQ today and when I shoved over his 4bet, he folded and showed....QQ.
Maybe a different story if he was a 15/10 or similar....