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taken from a Betfair news article

I am not sure this tell is accurate. Your thoughts please

this is the single most useful tell in low stakes poker games in my opinion. It can easily give you a complete idea of the strength of a weak player's hand, and it is very rare in poker to get such obvious and precise information, being able to collect this info and acting on it drastically increases your win rate.

The chip glance simply refers to a player looking down at their chips before the action gets to them once the flop has been dealt. This brief glance down nearly always means that this player is intending to bluff and has missed the board. The reason that this glance usually indicates this is that the player subconsciously realises that their hand cannot win the pot, therefore the only option available left to them is to bluff with their chips, hence the glance down.

I caught myself doing this once when I flopped 2 pair. I cursed myself and oppo folded. Wish he'd read that.

I always assume that people looking at their chips straight away is a natural reaction to a big hand.

I.e. they look at their chips and their opponents to work how to get them and how much to bet etc

me too, in fact the eaxct opposite of what the article suggests..if I rely on it at all, which I rarely do lol

In Caro's Book of Tells, he gives the Chip Glance as the absolute number one tell - far more reliable than any other one, and he says it means the player wants to bet because they have a big hand, not that they want to bet as a bluff.

OMG - that is the worst advice ever!

The chip glance from a weak player is pretty much an automotive response of a BIG hand NOT weakness. To poor players (who dont know) it would be almost impossible not to do!

That is shocking advice - who gave it? This tell is worth more $$$$$$ per hour than any other in terms of it being so specific!

Its like the heavy heart beat - that tell is either a huge hand or a huge bluff - and you need to piece it together with other info to work it out. The chip glance - big hand - 99% of time

As for the chip stare or more importantly the card stare - this is more an indication that they are considering a bluff.

I think 99% of players will tell you the opposite to that article

It sounds to me like the person who wrote the article doesn't particularly know anything about poker - but has read Caro's book of tells (or at least seen some bullet points) - and they've remembered it the wrong way round.

Just read the article.  Not sure about this bit either tbh.....

They stare at the board or at their opponents around them whenever they have a hand, desperately trying to stay as passive and unassuming as possible

I wouldn't normally repeat the article because of the links etc, but it just struck me as so odd......

http://betting.betfair.com/poker/marcus-bateman/live-tells-the-chip-glance-060509.html

Pure & utter poo.

Never heard such toshage.

Just Lol

 Aspades

For what it`s worth in my experience, players glancing down at their chips are almost certainly going to bet. Usually a player so eager to bet has a hand to protect, so it is most unlikely to be a bluff. Players considering  a bluff have a lot more to think about such as amount to bet etc, most players inexperienced or otherwise,  will take a little time for consideration before bluffing at a pot.

I agree with this article for the most part tbh as long as the glance is for a little while (think 'brief' prob means something different to many people here than what it does to the author). A lot of the week players in live games usually sit like still or make a really quick look down when they have the nuts but start looking at their chips for a little while or wriggling around with chips trying to look strong when they want to bluff. Obv with all live tells it is very player dependent but I've seen a lot of guys that do this consistently when they making a move.

The chip glance simply refers to a player looking down at their chips before the action gets to them once the flop has been dealt

What if, like me, the player never looks at his cards until the action is on him/her?

Then you are probably not a weak player, and what does this have to do with looking at your chips?

your just slowing the game down for the rest of us then

at your age you take about 5 minutes to pick up the cards

mind you at your age you will proberly forget what you had anyway

only reason to explain some of those plays

Oh, I AM a weak player!

But the article seems to hold no relevance if the player has not first looked at his cards - which is what the Article implies. Even if you plan to bluff, surely - in most cases - you gotta look first, even if only to make it look like you've looked!

As a matter of interest, who penned the piece?

Dunno who penned it...Just saying that insta flaming it not really fair considering they are right really, its just a question of the interpretation of the wording on how long the person is looking down at their chips. I say tomato, you say 'fuck off you yank'.

if you don't look at your cards until after the flop is dealt I'd suggest you try!

Oops.......

Flaming? Lol no! It's just humour. Bad humour, but humour. We do not permit flaming here.

And to be fair, he's never once told this Yank to fuck off.  Just cause on the odd occasion maybe, but never said it.   rotflmfao

I'd like to think I have never been so coarse, cheap or vulgar as to tell ANYONE on this forum to **** off. Even an American......

LOL i just meant in terms of misinterpreting words. No offence meant to anyone...even the yankistanis

Fair comment. You Know I'm No Good. ;)

ooo hark at you getting down with da kidz ;D

Any article that tells you "what people do" is a farce. People do a lot of different things. You need to find out what each individual does to play poker well...and you can't learn what people do from a book. You've gotta watch them to do that.

Fair point, but this one



Deffo made me LOL!!!!!!!!!

Not really "down with da kidz" as such. Just Friends.

Does this include online play?  Do you close your eyes and put one hand over the screen and exclaim, "I'm not lookin' - I'm not lookin..."  Or do you alt tab to porn or, perhaps of more interest to a man of your age, Ebay.