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Title: DTD 75£ final table Post by: paulhouk03 on May 25, 2009, 06:58:19 PM you have 5ms left (5 orbits)
what is your shoving range here when in sb bb is the only player that you have covered. Title: Re: DTD 75£ final table Post by: NoflopsHomer on May 25, 2009, 07:14:52 PM atc obv
Title: Re: DTD 75£ final table Post by: George2Loose on May 25, 2009, 07:19:36 PM AA+
Title: Re: DTD 75£ final table Post by: outragous76 on May 25, 2009, 07:21:12 PM dont even look it could only put you off what you should be doing
Title: Re: DTD 75£ final table Post by: gatso on May 25, 2009, 07:24:27 PM atc that add up to 9 and any diamonds
Title: Re: DTD 75£ final table Post by: George2Loose on May 25, 2009, 07:27:32 PM so u fold 23 clubs Gatso?
Nit Title: Re: DTD 75£ final table Post by: ScottMGee on May 25, 2009, 07:51:26 PM Quote Fold everything apart from AA. I tried getting clever with A4 in the SB in last night's £25 @ DTD and ran into Aces!! Busted out 5th Doh. Seriously almost any two cards if you want to win the tourney. Title: Re: DTD 75£ final table Post by: EvilPie on May 25, 2009, 08:25:59 PM Don't mind the limp to induce with a decent hand depending on likelyhood of bb shoving.
Other than that it's shove with any 2 vaguely similar cards. By vaguely similar I mean any 2 rectangular shaped cards. Title: Re: DTD 75£ final table Post by: gatso on May 25, 2009, 08:30:05 PM so u fold 23 clubs Gatso? Nit obv. we could be drawing dead if BB has 23 blue Title: Re: DTD 75£ final table Post by: MC on May 25, 2009, 09:39:58 PM Other than that it's shove with any 2 vaguely similar cards. By vaguely similar I mean any 2 rectangular shaped cards. ^^lol @ this v.true though Title: Re: DTD 75£ final table Post by: paulhouk03 on May 26, 2009, 04:56:39 PM atc?
even 28 or something? Title: Re: DTD 75£ final table Post by: kinboshi on May 26, 2009, 05:00:45 PM atc? even 28 or something? Especially if they're green. Title: Re: DTD 75£ final table Post by: EvilPie on May 26, 2009, 08:11:20 PM atc? even 28 or something? Yes, quite literally any two cards. The idea is that you get him to pass so it makes no difference what you have. With around 8 - 10 bbs he needs something half decent to call you with. Shove now and hope he passes. If he calls hope that you get lucky. Title: Re: DTD 75£ final table Post by: George2Loose on May 26, 2009, 08:20:49 PM u folded 82?
Title: Re: DTD 75£ final table Post by: EvilPie on May 26, 2009, 08:46:30 PM u folded 82? Must've been 82 red. It's the only plausible explanation. Title: Re: DTD 75£ final table Post by: paulhouk03 on May 27, 2009, 06:54:21 PM Quote from: George2Loose link=topic=42111.msg972158#msg972158 date=124336564 u folded 82? Pushed withQ3 he called I lost Title: Re: DTD 75£ final table Post by: TheWhisper on May 30, 2009, 08:22:04 AM What did he call with?
Title: Re: DTD 75£ final table Post by: George2Loose on May 30, 2009, 08:43:17 AM Q4 obv
Title: Re: DTD 75£ final table Post by: FuglyBaz on May 30, 2009, 05:21:14 PM Don't mind the limp to induce with a decent hand depending on likelyhood of bb shoving. Other than that it's shove with any 2 vaguely similar cards. By vaguely similar I mean any 2 rectangular shaped cards. I take it my shove with "Get out of Jail Free" and "You came 2nd in a beauty contest collect £10 off every player" was the best play then? Glad i did something right :) Title: Re: DTD 75£ final table Post by: paulhouk03 on June 03, 2009, 11:10:20 AM he called with 88
the board came jjka 3 spades and i had Qs bricked the river. Title: Re: DTD 75£ final table Post by: mckelinho on June 10, 2009, 11:26:56 AM Any h2 cards that add up to 4+ !!
Title: Re: DTD 75£ final table Post by: LuckyLloyd on June 10, 2009, 01:39:52 PM You literally should shove any two cards every single time because he will simply fold ~ >50% of the time (and even the best players in the World will fold more than half their hands here), and even when you do get it in as bad as possible:
Text results appended to pokerstove.txt 123,285,888 games 0.031 secs 3,976,964,129 games/sec Board: Dead: equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 87.214% 86.95% 00.26% 107202888 319518.00 { AA } Hand 1: 12.786% 12.53% 00.26% 15443964 319518.00 { 32o } You still dog him occasionally. Therefore, taken as a whole, shoving any two cards is unexploitably profitable on your behalf. The only time I would adjust that default is if the BB looked at his cards before he acted and I had some manner of live read (lol - I mean something heavily cast iron) that spoke of him having a big hand. As such, I'd be watching him intently from when the deal began to see if there is anything there on that score. But even that will happen so rarely, because crystal clear live tells hardly ever come to pass. It's genuinely unlucky for him to wake up with 88 as it's difficult to get dealt good cards in unlimited hold them. Do the same next time. Oh and, finally: if you were the BB here you should call Q7 or better (well I would). |