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Title: Mowbray for Celtic?
Post by: fatshaft on May 26, 2009, 03:28:30 PM
Celtic messageboards saying it's a done deal?


Title: Re: Mowbray for Celtic?
Post by: Maxriddles on May 26, 2009, 05:37:57 PM
As a Rangers fan I was hoping that it would be one of the other candidates, I think Mowbray would do a good job and I'm sure he'd have the fans onside.


Title: Re: Mowbray for Celtic?
Post by: cambo on May 26, 2009, 08:57:11 PM
id be totaly seething if they get him, peter grant is his no2 obv hell be in his ear about going. only good thing would be to have 2 of my top 5 all time celtic hate figures in the dugout to give some abuse to , grant and lennon grrrr cant stand them!


Title: Re: Mowbray for Celtic?
Post by: seven2unsuited on May 26, 2009, 08:58:48 PM
id be totaly seething if they get him, peter grant is his no2 obv hell be in his ear about going. only good thing would be to have 2 of my top 5 all time celtic hate figures in the dugout to give some abuse to , grant and lennon grrrr cant stand them!


and seethe out


Title: Re: Mowbray for Celtic?
Post by: Indestructable on May 26, 2009, 09:26:11 PM
Can't Celtic aim higher than a manager that has just taken a team down from the Prem?  :dontask:


Title: Re: Mowbray for Celtic?
Post by: celtic on May 26, 2009, 09:28:26 PM
Can't Celtic aim higher than a manager that has just taken a team down from the Prem?  :dontask:


i like this question a lot.


Title: Re: Mowbray for Celtic?
Post by: boldie on May 26, 2009, 09:33:53 PM
Can't Celtic aim higher than a manager that has just taken a team down from the Prem?  :dontask:


The question should obv be; How can a manager go to the SPL when he could manage a team in a big competitive league like the Championship?




Seriously though, of course Celtic should aim higher..it's pathetic IMO. Mowbray played nice attacking footie with West Brom but it just goes to show that he is tactically naive. He never even gave them a chance to stay up by playing unrealistic footie. A big club like Celtic should be aiming for a big manager.


Title: Re: Mowbray for Celtic?
Post by: cambo on May 26, 2009, 10:07:20 PM
west brom saying on sky he isnt going anywhere, but "sky sorces" say that celtic have asked to speak to roy aitken! LOL


Title: Re: Mowbray for Celtic?
Post by: celtic on May 26, 2009, 10:08:26 PM
west brom saying on sky he isnt going anywhere, but "sky sorces" say that celtic have asked to speak to roy aitken! LOL

lol. if he refuses then maybe we can approach joe kinnear ffs.


Title: Re: Mowbray for Celtic?
Post by: Maxriddles on May 26, 2009, 10:13:14 PM
west brom saying on sky he isnt going anywhere, but "sky sorces" say that celtic have asked to speak to roy aitken! LOL

lol. if he refuses then maybe we can approach joe kinnear ffs.

I heard a couple of laughable ones tonight including Kevin Keegan.

Please, please, please God, Keegan or Keane, please!!!


Title: Re: Mowbray for Celtic?
Post by: celtic on May 26, 2009, 10:15:59 PM
Keegan >>>>>> Keane >>>>>> Aitken


Title: Re: Mowbray for Celtic?
Post by: Teacake on May 26, 2009, 10:20:03 PM
lol an Aberdeen fan on a poker mb reports that Celtic mbs are saying Mowbray is a done deal and we have German dwarves calling it pathetic

If I had made a post about every name I have seen or heard linked with this job I'd have more posts than Boldie!

Strap yourselves in lads this ones going to run for a wee while yet  :)up


Title: Re: Mowbray for Celtic?
Post by: cambo on May 26, 2009, 10:25:58 PM
lol @ german dwarf, pls pls pls let it be aitken!


Title: Re: Mowbray for Celtic?
Post by: FuglyBaz on May 26, 2009, 10:54:12 PM
Steve McLaren in running for the job


Title: Re: Mowbray for Celtic?
Post by: cambo on May 26, 2009, 10:56:46 PM
just gets better! wonder if he still has his dutch accent? lol


Title: Re: Mowbray for Celtic?
Post by: FuglyBaz on May 26, 2009, 11:19:21 PM
just gets better! wonder if he still has his dutch accent? lol

Think he lost his accent but still has the clogs on his feet


Title: Re: Mowbray for Celtic?
Post by: Hairydude on May 26, 2009, 11:32:04 PM
Funniest one I heard today was Guus Hiddink- hmmmm yeah he's going to knock back Chelsea after turning them around then join Celtic.

I hope for Mcghee or Keane as I think they'd be rotten, aswell as curbishley, although PLS PLS let it be Roy Aitken with no money to spend lol

wouldnt want to see Levein, Mowbrey, Moyes(as if), or even Coyle.

Indifferent about Keegan


Title: Re: Mowbray for Celtic?
Post by: fatshaft on May 27, 2009, 08:53:30 AM
lol an Aberdeen fan on a poker mb reports that Celtic mbs are saying Mowbray is a done deal and we have German dwarves calling it pathetic

If I had made a post about every name I have seen or heard linked with this job I'd have more posts than Boldie!

Strap yourselves in lads this ones going to run for a wee while yet  :)up
Just to clarify, that was posted on the main Dons message board, I am signed up at a number of rivals sites, but not any Hun or Tim site on principal.  :)up


Title: Re: Mowbray for Celtic?
Post by: Boba Fett on May 27, 2009, 10:19:13 AM
lol@ Rijkaard and Van Basten


Title: Re: Mowbray for Celtic?
Post by: Rod Paradise on May 27, 2009, 11:46:42 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1188369/EXCLUSIVE-Croatia-coach-Bilic-eyes-Parkhead-post-Coyle-Celtics-choice.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1188369/EXCLUSIVE-Croatia-coach-Bilic-eyes-Parkhead-post-Coyle-Celtics-choice.html)

Slaven Bilic?  ;pokergods;


Title: Re: Mowbray for Celtic?
Post by: FuglyBaz on May 27, 2009, 03:50:37 PM
Next there will be speculation the Jose Mourinho wants to manage Celtic :)


Title: Re: Mowbray for Celtic?
Post by: Rod Paradise on May 27, 2009, 04:07:20 PM
Next there will be speculation the Jose Mourinho wants to manage Celtic :)

He's not a popular man with the Celtic support - so doubt it.

Bilic's agent (an ex-celtic player) is actively pushing him for the job -  but the word up here is Coyle's been offered it.


Title: Re: Mowbray for Celtic?
Post by: Acidmouse on May 27, 2009, 04:22:50 PM
BBC saying Coyle is nailed on to go there and speak to celtic..


Title: Re: Mowbray for Celtic?
Post by: TheChipPrince on May 27, 2009, 04:23:12 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/celtic/8070586.stm

I support neither team, but i'd feel sorry for Burnely if he went


Title: Re: Mowbray for Celtic?
Post by: Acidmouse on May 27, 2009, 04:24:22 PM
and Bruce talking to Sunderland, man that Bruce is a right mercenary.


Title: Re: Mowbray for Celtic?
Post by: FuglyBaz on May 27, 2009, 04:24:33 PM
Maybe thats why Coyle didnt look too happy after winning play offs the other day. I would prefer to manage Burnley over Celtic just because of the rewards the Premiership can give you if you do well.

Not being funny but my nan could guide Celtic to a top two finish in the SPL. Doesnt take a great man to do it. Funny how nobody has taken Celtic to the heady heights of European finals like Martin O Neill once did! He's a great manager. Strachan is just a chump.


Title: Re: Mowbray for Celtic?
Post by: Acidmouse on May 27, 2009, 04:27:42 PM
Strachan is just a chump.


ROFL

Have the revenues for both Celtic and rangers dipped a huge amount since O'Neil was manager? they can hardly afford transfer fee's these days and seem to stick to home grown talent that's simply not good enough  beyond the domestic game. Saying strachan is a chump sums up why anyone who manages the big two up there is on a hiding to nothing.



Title: Re: Mowbray for Celtic?
Post by: Rod Paradise on May 27, 2009, 04:31:39 PM
Strachan is just a chump.


ROFL

Have the revenues for both Celtic and rangers dipped a huge amount since O'Neil was manager? they can hardly afford transfer fee's these days and seem to stick to home grown talent that's simply not good enough  beyond the domestic game. Saying strachan is a chump sums up why anyone who manages the big two up there is on a hiding to nothing.



Revenues in the EPL & Championship have risen dramatically more than revenues dropping in the SPL.

I'd say taking Burnley into a relegation battle in the EPL was a bigger hiding to nothing tbh.


Title: Re: Mowbray for Celtic?
Post by: Rod Paradise on May 27, 2009, 04:32:39 PM
Maybe thats why Coyle didnt look too happy after winning play offs the other day. I would prefer to manage Burnley over Celtic just because of the rewards the Premiership can give you if you do well.

Not being funny but my nan could guide Celtic to a top two finish in the SPL. Doesnt take a great man to do it. Funny how nobody has taken Celtic to the heady heights of European finals like Martin O Neill once did! He's a great manager. Strachan is just a chump.

Strachan took Celtic into the last 16 of the Champions League twice - so not too shabby in comparison to MON in Europe.


Title: Re: Mowbray for Celtic?
Post by: henrik777 on May 27, 2009, 04:34:26 PM

Not being funny but my nan could guide Celtic to a top two finish in the SPL. Doesnt take a great man to do it. Funny how nobody has taken Celtic to the heady heights of European finals like Martin O Neill once did! He's a great manager. Strachan is just a chump.

Strachan never qualified to play in the UEFA cup so you can't compare in those terms. He did qualify twice for the champions league last 16 which O'Neill couldn't do.

Sandy


Title: Re: Mowbray for Celtic?
Post by: TheChipPrince on May 27, 2009, 04:35:41 PM
On the whole, how does Strachan rate with Celtic fans now he's left?


Title: Re: Mowbray for Celtic?
Post by: FuglyBaz on May 27, 2009, 04:36:16 PM
Strachan is just a chump.


ROFL

Have the revenues for both Celtic and rangers dipped a huge amount since O'Neil was manager? they can hardly afford transfer fee's these days and seem to stick to home grown talent that's simply not good enough  beyond the domestic game. Saying strachan is a chump sums up why anyone who manages the big two up there is on a hiding to nothing.



Ive never rated Strachan as a Manager though so thats mostly why i say what i do. He did nowt at Coventry (other than keep them up) and at Southampton he wasnt ever that great despite them having some decent players.

Whereas O Neill led a dire Leicester City team to a few cup finals, kept them in the PL and established them, and did wonders at Celtic. And is doing a very good job at Aston Villa by all accounts (apart from the UEFA goof up)


Title: Re: Mowbray for Celtic?
Post by: Rod Paradise on May 27, 2009, 04:39:23 PM
On the whole, how does Strachan rate with Celtic fans now he's left?

He's never been popular, and the chucking away of the league this year really soured things further.

In most eyes he was a great signing for what the board wanted (cost cutting), but didn't inspire the fans.

Time will tell whether the fact that we're practically debt free will be important, as a lot of clubs could go to the wall in the near future.


Title: Re: Mowbray for Celtic?
Post by: Acidmouse on May 27, 2009, 04:41:32 PM
Strachan never was one to hang around went it got a bit sticky though. Maybe he will go to Wigan!?


Title: Re: Mowbray for Celtic?
Post by: Teacake on May 27, 2009, 05:05:02 PM
He did a good job in his first season after his initial dodgy start, succeeding MON was never going to be an easy task. Since then it was downhill with the exception of some decent scalps in the CL but for every Man Utd & AC Milan there was a Clyde or St Mirren.

The standard of football was turgid and unwatchable at times against opposition with nowhere near the resources of Celtic. He should have left after winning 3 league titles in a row. The vast majority of fans wanted him out towards the end and tbh I think he knew he was going long ago, he just didn't look interested towards the end.


Title: Re: Mowbray for Celtic?
Post by: fatshaft on May 27, 2009, 05:46:15 PM
Maybe thats why Coyle didnt look too happy after winning play offs the other day. I would prefer to manage Burnley over Celtic just because of the rewards the Premiership can give you if you do well.

Not being funny but my nan could guide Celtic to a top two finish in the SPL. Doesnt take a great man to do it. Funny how nobody has taken Celtic to the heady heights of European finals like Martin O Neill once did! He's a great manager. Strachan is just a chump.
Aye, that would be the UEFA cup eh? Since when Strachan has won the league and been in the CL every season. And no European finals in 4 years, a travesty of unimagineable proportions.  ;booder;


Title: Re: Mowbray for Celtic?
Post by: Hairydude on May 27, 2009, 06:57:59 PM
Maybe thats why Coyle didnt look too happy after winning play offs the other day. I would prefer to manage Burnley over Celtic just because of the rewards the Premiership can give you if you do well.

Not being funny but my nan could guide Celtic to a top two finish in the SPL. Doesnt take a great man to do it. Funny how nobody has taken Celtic to the heady heights of European finals like Martin O Neill once did! He's a great manager. Strachan is just a chump.
Aye, that would be the UEFA cup eh? Since when Strachan has won the league and been in the CL every season. And no European finals in 4 years, a travesty of unimagineable proportions.  ;booder;

LOL I like this line


Title: Re: Mowbray for Celtic?
Post by: cambo on May 27, 2009, 10:33:34 PM
coyle odds drifting

made me think celtic will not get a manager from another club, compensation is against club regulations

so id keep all speculation solely to free agents

jozef venglos available?


Title: Re: Mowbray for Celtic?
Post by: Indestructable on May 27, 2009, 11:06:43 PM
Can't afford Svem so maybe Ranieri?


Title: Re: Mowbray for Celtic?
Post by: fatshaft on May 28, 2009, 02:02:28 AM
McGhee a;;eged;y resigned tonight as well, although it's assumed that is for the Dons not the Tims.


Title: Re: Mowbray for Celtic?
Post by: Div on May 28, 2009, 02:06:45 PM
One thing the Celtic board has definitely got better at in recent times is managing news flow.

They've leaked a few things to some of the unofficial Celtic websites in the past to bypass the usual press channels.

One of the sites they've used in the past has been touting a couple of foreign coaches - Eric Gerets and Stale Solbakken - and has also been saying things will take longer than most of the press are claiming.


Title: Re: Mowbray for Celtic?
Post by: Teacake on May 28, 2009, 02:23:24 PM
One thing the Celtic board has definitely got better at in recent times is managing news flow.

They've leaked a few things to some of the unofficial Celtic websites in the past to bypass the usual press channels.

One of the sites they've used in the past has been touting a couple of foreign coaches - Eric Gerets and Stale Solbakken - and has also been saying things will take longer than most of the press are claiming.

Eric Gerets has taken a job in Saudi so its definetely not him. Solbakken has no chance either.

BTW that article is 3 days old and when that site gets good info its usually just before an announcement is made.


Title: Re: Mowbray for Celtic?
Post by: fatshaft on June 06, 2009, 04:14:44 PM
So it looks like full circle, and it's Mowbray after all?

http://www.theherald.co.uk/sport/headlines/display.var.2512800.0.Mowbray_set_to_be_unveiled_at_Celtic.php

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Tony Mowbray is expected to be confirmed as the new manager of Celtic today. The West Bromwich Albion manager was offered the job late last night and, assuming the Coca-Cola Championship club accept a compensation fee in excess of £1m, will be unveiled on Monday.

Dermot Desmond, the principal shareholder, identified Celtic's former centre-back as the preferred candidate to succeed Gordon Strachan and Mark McGhee, who had also been in the running, will now replace Jimmy Calderwood as Aberdeen manager.

It ends a two-week search for a replacement for Strachan, who announced his resignation after failing to secure a fourth successive title. Mowbray will be assisted by Peter Grant, the former Celtic midfielder, and Neil Lennon, who will remain as first-team coach next season before embarking on his own managerial career.
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Both Mowbray and McGhee were hanging by the telephone last night as Desmond, Lawwell and the rest of the plc board deliberated over the two candidates. Owen Coyle, the early front-runner, had confirmed his intention to remain at Burnley during a final TransAtlantic conversation and Mowbray's experience in the Barclays Premier League last season is believed to have given him the advantage over McGhee...............

Took us a while, but McGhee to Aberdeen, and we're happy in the Granite City  :)up


Title: Re: Mowbray for Celtic?
Post by: Teacake on June 13, 2009, 04:16:41 PM
SSN reporting compensation agreed between Celtic & WBA.


Title: Re: Mowbray for Celtic?
Post by: fatshaft on June 13, 2009, 09:13:35 PM
SSN reporting compensation agreed between Celtic & WBA.

lol at how many times I've heard this in the last 3 weeks ;whistle;


Title: Re: Mowbray for Celtic?
Post by: Teacake on June 14, 2009, 09:38:45 AM
SSN reporting compensation agreed between Celtic & WBA.

lol at how many times I've heard this in the last 3 weeks ;whistle;

Once?  ;D


Title: Re: Mowbray for Celtic?
Post by: fatshaft on June 17, 2009, 12:44:06 AM
Celtic messageboards saying it's a done deal?
Well that done deal took a while, but it ios now a done deal.

Happy or unhappy?


Title: Re: Mowbray for Celtic?
Post by: celtic on June 17, 2009, 12:46:04 AM
Celtic messageboards saying it's a done deal?
Well that done deal took a while, but it ios now a done deal.

Happy or unhappy?

Happy for me. Best we could have hope for imo.


Title: Re: Mowbray for Celtic?
Post by: mondatoo on June 17, 2009, 01:01:32 AM
Celtic messageboards saying it's a done deal?
Well that done deal took a while, but it ios now a done deal.

Happy or unhappy?

Happy for me. Best we could have hope for imo.

Seems a good manager but is he really any better than strachan i don't see how but obv a lot of ur lot didn't like him so best of luck


Title: Re: Mowbray for Celtic?
Post by: seven2unsuited on June 17, 2009, 03:23:28 AM
Celtic messageboards saying it's a done deal?
Well that done deal took a while, but it ios now a done deal.

Happy or unhappy?

Happy for me. Best we could have hope for imo.

Seems a good manager but is he really any better than strachan i don't see how but obv a lot of ur lot didn't like him so best of luck

Tactically Strachan was very poor, he never done anything to change a game either at the start or during it.  His brand of football was a non entity he had a terrible attitude for someone in his position.  Basically he should never have got the job in the first place. 


Title: Re: Mowbray for Celtic?
Post by: boldie on June 17, 2009, 07:43:11 AM
Celtic messageboards saying it's a done deal?
Well that done deal took a while, but it ios now a done deal.

Happy or unhappy?

Happy for me. Best we could have hope for imo.

Seems a good manager but is he really any better than strachan i don't see how but obv a lot of ur lot didn't like him so best of luck

Tactically Strachan was very poor, he never done anything to change a game either at the start or during it.  His brand of football was a non entity he had a terrible attitude for someone in his position.  Basically he should never have got the job in the first place. 


Whereas Mowbray hasn't changed tactics once during an entire season of getting humped with West Brom?


Title: Re: Mowbray for Celtic?
Post by: fatshaft on June 17, 2009, 11:39:42 AM

Tactically Strachan was very poor, he never done anything to change a game either at the start or during it.  His brand of football was a non entity he had a terrible attitude for someone in his position.  Basically he should never have got the job in the first place. 


Whereas Mowbray hasn't changed tactics once during an entire season of getting humped with West Brom?
Taht's my view. While in the SPL his unflinching devotion to attacking football will be fine, he's going to come unstuck pretty quickly in Europe where he'll be the WBA of CL teams, unless he realises the error of his ways?


Title: Re: Mowbray for Celtic?
Post by: Acidmouse on June 17, 2009, 11:51:32 AM
So Celtic's draw gets a Championship manager to take over.


Title: Re: Mowbray for Celtic?
Post by: Rod Paradise on June 17, 2009, 12:03:30 PM
So Celtic's draw gets a Championship manager to take over.

I think you'll find he was on a Premiership Contract until the 1st of August.


Title: Re: Mowbray for Celtic?
Post by: Teacake on June 17, 2009, 02:15:23 PM

Tactically Strachan was very poor, he never done anything to change a game either at the start or during it.  His brand of football was a non entity he had a terrible attitude for someone in his position.  Basically he should never have got the job in the first place. 


Whereas Mowbray hasn't changed tactics once during an entire season of getting humped with West Brom?
Taht's my view. While in the SPL his unflinching devotion to attacking football will be fine, he's going to come unstuck pretty quickly in Europe where he'll be the WBA of CL teams, unless he realises the error of his ways?

Thats pretty much how I see it although he won't have to worry about the CL as we wont qualify. A season in the Europa Cup wouldn't be such a bad thing imo.


Title: Re: Mowbray for Celtic?
Post by: The Baron on June 17, 2009, 11:38:24 PM
Celtic messageboards saying it's a done deal?
Well that done deal took a while, but it ios now a done deal.

Happy or unhappy?

Happy for me. Best we could have hope for imo.

Seems a good manager but is he really any better than strachan i don't see how but obv a lot of ur lot didn't like him so best of luck

Tactically Strachan was very poor, he never done anything to change a game either at the start or during it.  His brand of football was a non entity he had a terrible attitude for someone in his position.  Basically he should never have got the job in the first place. 


Whereas Mowbray hasn't changed tactics once during an entire season of getting humped with West Brom?

IMHO I think Mowbray has far more tactical nous than the likes of Pulis. It's just immensely difficult to play a passing game outside of the top 6-8 clubs and stay up.


Title: Re: Mowbray for Celtic?
Post by: Josedinho on June 17, 2009, 11:41:24 PM
I think it is difficult with the team he had. They got promoted with decent footballers playing football. To then go and tell the likes of Brunt and Morrison they are now playing lumping football wouldn't have worked any better.


Title: Re: Mowbray for Celtic?
Post by: The Baron on June 17, 2009, 11:45:24 PM
I think it is difficult with the team he had. They got promoted with decent footballers playing football. To then go and tell the likes of Brunt and Morrison they are now playing lumping football wouldn't have worked any better.
This.


Title: Re: Mowbray for Celtic?
Post by: fatshaft on June 18, 2009, 01:20:32 AM


IMHO I think Mowbray has far more tactical nous than the likes of Pulis. It's just immensely difficult to play a passing game outside of the top 6-8 clubs and stay up.
Then if you have 'tactical nous', you realise you are not top 6/8, and change the gameplan, and that may mean getting rid of the players who took you up from the the league below. Stoke were favs to go down, but survived comfortably, to say Pulis had less nousthan Mowbray flies in the face of all evidence.


Title: Re: Mowbray for Celtic?
Post by: Rod Paradise on June 18, 2009, 10:16:04 AM


IMHO I think Mowbray has far more tactical nous than the likes of Pulis. It's just immensely difficult to play a passing game outside of the top 6-8 clubs and stay up.
Then if you have 'tactical nous', you realise you are not top 6/8, and change the gameplan, and that may mean getting rid of the players who took you up from the the league below. Stoke were favs to go down, but survived comfortably, to say Pulis had less nousthan Mowbray flies in the face of all evidence.

And if you've not got money to replace them?


Title: Re: Mowbray for Celtic?
Post by: boldie on June 18, 2009, 10:52:49 AM


IMHO I think Mowbray has far more tactical nous than the likes of Pulis. It's just immensely difficult to play a passing game outside of the top 6-8 clubs and stay up.
Then if you have 'tactical nous', you realise you are not top 6/8, and change the gameplan, and that may mean getting rid of the players who took you up from the the league below. Stoke were favs to go down, but survived comfortably, to say Pulis had less nousthan Mowbray flies in the face of all evidence.

And if you've not got money to replace them?

then you try to play a different game with the players you have.

That's what he'll need to do at celtic as he won't have the cash to buy decent players that can pass the ball properly.