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Man U 17/10 and no draw/no bet at Evens if it goes there, 5/6 currently for me

Low scoring?

its about as close to a coinflip as it gets for me...

Inesta is a big player for them to possible miss

Haven't looked at markets yet but really fancy 1-1

barca/barca @ 3/1

Iniesta plays, Barca, if he doesn't, then Man U

Hard to predict but please please please let Barcelona win

Betting wise get the lot on Paul Scholes to receive a booking (if he starts the game, guess he might not though)

norrrrrrrrrrrrr guna miss it as will be flying.

gogogo Barca though.

cowboy error

BARCA FTW

oh im sorry. Jones' fault, he booked, and booked from the other side of the country, ridic!

No bets placed on this yet but I really can't see past United.

Fletcher a big miss imo

3-0 Barca

Without Abidal and Alves (vs Rooney and possibly Ronaldo on the wings) as well as Marquez not being there at the back I can only see Man U winning. Shame, because first XI vs first XI it's Barca's game IMO.

The rest of the pitch will be pretty even but Man U will win it in the final third.

Also Ferguson has gotten so much better tactically in recent seasons. No more of that attack attack attack stuff that he failed with so miserably for years. His team can now soak up pressure and hit so hard on the break.

I expect it to be like last year's semi Vs Barca, 30-40% possession but deadly in front of goal.

Anyone expecting an open final is going to be disappointed I think. Man U 1-0, 2-0 or 2-1. An outside bet on 3 goals for Utd isn't daft if Barca have to chase the game.

CMON UNITED!!!!

Cos we're spoilt as United fans I think if we don't win this it will put a big downer on the season

History in the making

And we'll only be ONE European Cup behind the so called biggest club in England if we ship it

ONE TIME!

I half think Barca could choke and ManU definitely won't..

ManU for me..but won't have a bet on it.

Man-U 4-0
3-0 up @ half time

Barca for me......Gonna go 2-1, 3-1, 3-0 any of them will do.

2-1 Man Utd for me.

ManU/ManU,i really think Barca aren't that good.

Ronaldo 1st goal/1-0 Man U scorecast
Draw/Draw

Dont think it will be the classic everyone is hoping for.

Going to be a very tight game this. Man U will happily soak up the pressure and let Barca play carousell and get nowhere.
Man U will hit barca hard on the break and I expect Barca to be very vunerable to any set peice plays, free kicks (Ronaldo Obv) corners etc.

Ive been looking forward to this game for some time now and will have a punt on the following

Man U / Man U   - Half time / full time         
Draw / Man U    - Half time / full time

1st Goal 21-30 mins  ( had a dream last night that Man U score in the 29th minute)

Man U win both halves

1st goal - Vidic
1st goal - Ronaldo

I hope the dinner break at DTD coincides with this match otherwise I am going to lose a few blinds

Anyone think UTD will shorten through the day and even more so when its announced Rio will start??

I think it is already in the price that he will start.

If he does not start the price will drift.

I can't see past Manure here either, have dabbled on 2-1, 2-0, and 3-1.

i hope things get messi tonight

wot Rupinder said

FYP

Anyone else think that 1 x CL > 1 x European KO Cup?

Pls spank Barca hard :)

Iniesta man of the match 11/1

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i think will be 2-1 Barca with Man U winning at half time (ronaldo scoring)

I expect United to win comfortably. I have seen Barcelona play well against a decent side once this year at home against Bayern. The rest of the time against organised sides they look very short of ideas going forward and very vulnerable at the back. Max bet Utd win.

2006 Celtic would have put Man utd out on away goals in a 2 legged tie but they qualified for the knockout stages. There is a bigger margin of error with the league.

Sandy

Can argue both ways:
EC - Had to be Champions to qualify so it's harder to even get in, one loss away from being knocked out,
CL - Don't have to be Champions therefore all the top teams in Spain, Italy and England are involved so you're more likely to get tougher opposition.

hardly an argument to suggest that the original KO format was as stern a test.
United were beaten in the league home and away by City last season and  Liverpool this season, and 'lost' on aggregate to Arsenal this year. The league format tests ability and durability.
Plus there are still KO stages with the best of the best of Europe to run up against.

Man Utd 1-0 Rooney scorer

anyone got a link for the syndicate thread we had on this?

Barcelona: Valdes, Puyol, Toure, Pique, Sylvinho, Busquets, Iniesta, Xavi, Messi, Eto'o, Henry. Subs: Pinto, Caceres, Gudjohnsen, Krkic, Keita, Rodriguez, Muniesa.

Man Utd: Van der Sar, O'Shea, Vidic, Ferdinand, Evra, Carrick, Anderson, Giggs, Park, Ronaldo, Rooney. Subs: Kuszczak, Berbatov, Nani, Scholes, Rafael, Evans, Tevez.

Really dont give a flying fuck who wins this tonight just hope its a cracking game with a fair few goals

May the best team win!

<--------------------------------------------------Come on TH hope he scores he 1st ever goal in a final tonight.

Come on barca

Can't see past Man Utd.

3-2 man utd, no doubt.

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

LoL

Cmon Barca !!!!!!!!!

Easy as that

Van Der Sar must do better. Shouldn't get beaten near post.

FYP

How important does a game need to be for ITV to put the score and clock on the screen?

it came on for a second, but yea it is pretty tilting

This.

Most goalies would have had a very tough time keeping that out. What a goal though...very impressive change of pace.

ManU completely being outplayed now...It's quite shocking how average they look/play tonight.

Hoping for a better second half of them...and a bit more penetration from Barca.

Watch on Sky then !

I don't think he has Sky. Nobody could be so stupid as to watch ITV when it's on Skysports as the coverage is so far superior on Skysports for everything.

Sandy

Commentary on Sky is also MUCH better..switched over after I heard this on ITV; "Carrick can pass the ball as well as anyone on the pitch"...Yeah, he's a proper Iniesta or Xavi, so he is.
Then they say "Giggs needs to get on the ball more, as does Anderson" (Essentially they go and list the entire ManU midfield)...followed within 15 seconds (After Giggs finally sees the ball for a second and does Feck all with it) "Giggs is really enjoying that free roll he has now"

Blah! Only watch the half time commentary on ITV as Sky has Souness and I want him to die whenever I listen to him.

Exactly, I'm choosing to listen to Tyldesley and Pleat...

shame they dont use itv4 commentary

jim beglin and his pal are hidden gems

Pleat or Gray, both awful imo

PLEASE BE 3-0!

if this was a boxing match this is over

Hit's the post to wind me up! Need to get a second soon.

Man Utd 2-1 with 2 injury time goals would also be comical though.

This match is so much like the Bayern final.

Could they possibly do it again??

GO GO GO 1 MORE PLEASE!!!

Not when they play like this, they can't. (Mind you, they were also piss poor against Bayern)

What a ball in the box but I thought ManU players would have known to keep an eye on Messi...he is after all somewhat known for his ability to score.

They are being schooled in the art of passing.

I need VDS to go up for a corner and Barca to nick the 3rd!

I have never ever been so happy to do my money :)

game has seemed very poor spectacle

may just be poor compared to hype

So close. Still shipped but 3-0 would have been "Messi".

HAHAHAHAHA. Absolutely dog raped.

Souness was about to speak on Sky so I switched back to ITV only to hear this beauty; "Everybody with English football in their heart will be feeling glum tonight" rotflmfao

Feel gutted for Man Utd.

Kinboshi and I were talking about odds earlier, he asked me what 2-0 barca was, i said 14/1. He said it was worth a punt......

[  ] he put it on

gg Dan

oops  forgot this    [   ]

FML (although slur alex's face made up for it somewhat)

Awesome setting for a final. Love the fact that the presentation is so close to the pitch. Looks brilliant.
Ref did his job.

Well played Barcelona.

*** Lighting big cuban cigar ***

The Trophy is known as Big Ears aparently.
If anybody anywhere in the world refers to it as Big Ears please stop.

BAAAAAAAAARRRRRCELONNNNNNAAAAAAA

In your fkn eye Slur Alex

Kinboshi in folding shocker.

How happy does Platini look that it was Barca that won !?

[ ] Platini looks gutted Barca have won it

The stadium is great, but Rome is a terrible venue for a CL final.  Disgusting that again fans are subjecting to violence (a man u fan was stabbed by an 'Ultra'), and UEFA will do nothing.  How long will they turn a blind eye to the violence of the Italians?  If that had happened in England, they'd be all sorts of repercussions.

Agreed. Move the stadium to Monaco imo.

Happy that an English team didn't win it.

Brilliant. Barca made man u look like a sunday league team

Like Shreeves has just saved Fergie from a big bug. Would have been com to see his face as it crawled on him.

"Meeester Fawwwwlty, he heet meeee. He say hee hav £20 on Man U"

You did what with my daughter?

fyp

• Rooney is so overhyped it's ridic.

[ ] Giggs showed why he was player of the year

[ ] Ferguson showed his great tactical brain with the halftime changes and later substitutions

• Iniesta & Messi - wow, just wow
• Very pleased for Terry Henry

[X] checkbox fail

I changed to sky because of this-wonder how many other people done this-poor move ITV

Clock appeared 60 odd mins in, wtf?

lol, true true

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s35C84vhSgU

Probably more so that the most attractive footballing club team in the world won the best club competition in the world...but thats only IMO

How flat did Man Utd look-nobody seemed up for it...ffs its the Final of the champions league. I don't think Rooney is as good as made out but for fuck sake he is a lot better than what he showed tonight-Him and Man Utd overall had no fight at all which was so disappointing- I wonder if they would have had anymore had they not won last year???

and Michael Carrick is the most overrated player in English football!!!

Best team by a mile won but as a spectacle I feel pretty underwhelmed!

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how do i find out who got man of match?

I got 11s on Iniesta

Not sure which is the official man of the match but the Fans man of the macth on Uefa website was messi

i know its NOT official but.....

BBC Sport Player Rater man of the match: Barcelona's Andres Iniesta 8.39 (on 90 minutes).

gives you a bit of hope i guess

norkage

(http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00813/A_bubbly_Barcelona__813013a.jpg)

Pumped.

Man Utd were totally outclassed tonight. You get the feeling they thought they only had to turn up tonight, when the first goal went in they were like wtf this wasn't in the script  :dontask:

The press in Spain have been saying this all season and I think I agree.... Iniesta is the best player on Earth right now.

Carrick is overrated.

The game was won in the middle of the park and Utd need to look there in the summer.

[X] Definitely agree with the game being won in the middle of the park

[X] harsh on Carrick considering he had Anderson and Giggs as company against IMO the two best central midfielders' in world football.

[X] Ferguson completely lost the plot starting Giggs and not starting Berbatov/Scholes

[X] check your pm ;-)

going by tonight's game?

In general I think. Merits a place with a top 4 side - definitely. World class - quite a bit short imo.

At last they lose and i can get some revenge laughs at Jones and Rupinder!!!!

So happy with this, all the Scum fans at Gatwick today were tilting me beyond belief.

And when our plane touched down in Vegas at like 10.30 your time and the captain announced the result, the plane erupted!

BARCELONA ARE THE CHAMPIONS OF EUROPE

I think that Chelsea and Manchester United starting XI's are all world class players' with the exception of Flecther and O'shea for ManYoo - I can see Fergie addressing these positions in the summer.

cliff notes: [X] Rooney definitely world class and it isn't even close. Ask any manager in world football.

gutted we lost but no complaints. Barca are awesome and the best team in the world. Their ball retention was spectacular. Everyone was going on about their dodgy defence- doesn't matter how dodgy the defence is you can't get the ball!

granddaughter no?

sigh

luckily I'm off for the weekend to spend time in the sunshine drinking beer and listening to music. May manage to avoid all the new Barca fans.

We were outclassed from the moment that Eto'o did Vidic. Surprised at the team because that goal knocked the stuffing out of them in a way that isn't typical United, but then Barca aren't typical opponents.

Worthy champions.

;whistle;

SO SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HAPPY UNITED LOST.

Their midfield sure is good.

You'd probably know them anyway, suppoorted Man Utd until about 10pm yesterday   ;nanana;

Chuffed to bits about this result last night, it would have been painful to have to listen to David3103 usual drivel about Manure being the best ever to walk the planet.
It will hopefully calm the manc's down for a while now.

I have been saying all season that i thought ManU midfield just wasn't good enough, Scholes and Giggs are finished this last couple of years imo, Carrick is Mr.invisible,Rooney is a very bad left winger(Wtf Fergie?)

I didn't like the formation Fergie went with, he played the exact same against Arsenal in the 2nd leg and imo he was inviting the pressure on, luckily that night young Gibbs fell over and that was Murder She Wrote. So Barca have a very weak defence also , so it obv makes sense to leave about £65 mill worth of strikers on the bench...Hmmm

Oh well GG Barca VWP , it's a victory for football.

Roll on next season......

Agree with all of this but it's easy in hindsight. Before the game I think most Utd fans would have wanted the same set up Vs Arsenal as attacking Barca was playing their game and leaving them space. These tactics have worked so well for Utd in recent seasons - even vs Barca last year.

I think on the night whatever Utd played would have lost. Barca were excellent regardless of Utd being poor.

Although it has more or less the same personnel, the Barca side Utd beat in last year's semi was far inferior to this one. Their pressure off the ball is excellent and their game is far less complicated going forwards.

Interesting to hear Ronaldo's comments about tactics and not discussing his future though. I think he's off. I just hope it's Valencia who replaces him, not Ribery.

can you link to examples please?

Lol most of your posts. Prob what irked me the most was when you hijacked the Sami Hyypia thread and start going on about Eric Cantona.

Yes mate obv hindsight is always 20/20 i appreciate that. It would prob have been suicidal for ManU to go with a more attacking formation, it's just when the Barca defence is so dodgy and they seem at times they would rather concede than just get the ball the F*ck out,  if fergie went for the jugular Barca could have really been creaking. Attack is best form of defence and all that jazz.Also when you're starved of possesion which any team in the world would be against Barca it would be better to have more options up front rather than playing a class winger up front and playing a class striker on the left wing.Surely ManU fans think they are one of v few teams that can stand toe to toe with Barca in attacking options , yet all they were set out to do was stifle Barca.