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Playing the £1k at DTD with 20k starting stack.

Flying start up to 27k still first level of 50/100.

Info on Villain, has shown an outrageous bluff all in of 10 high for a missed flush draw against an opponent who nearly called with ace high, apart from that has played very few hands.


I raise from UTG +2 to 300 with 55 and get raised to 1k on button by villain. I flat.

Flop comes  5h  Jc  Ac

How should I play this to make the most out of the hand?

this type of flop defo looks like it hit the 3 better hard but as you said he did show a big bluff already.......i like to lead sometimes in this spot as he may raise u with air or Ax .

Deffo lead to build pot & aim to get chips in.  Only 2 hands your scared of here and with villans range on button i think you can expect Ax most of the time....  1/2 pot and see what he does.....

Open shove. He'll put u on a flush draw and snap with AQ

shove 26k into a 2k pot?...hmmmm

definitely lead out here though, hoping he comes over the top...some weak ass 1200-1500 bet will do for me.

Ok well I'm obv joking.

How is 1200-1500 a weak ass bet? You're betting 60-75% of pot, kinda standard isn't it?

I don't understand the weak bet anymore.

I like to use it but whenever someone bets out at me I struggle to differentiate between weak and strong.

Too many people try to look weak these days meaning that you just can't tell the difference imo.

As for the hand why not try something different?

How about check and hope he bets. Flat call his bet and then lead out strong on the turn.

Hope he sees it as a float and shoves on your ridic obvious move.

The difficulty with this hand and extracting value is we are OOP.

I think I check raise here. I don't want to lead and have him just fold and I think later streets become hard to play this way. From your brief info he seems the type of player who probably won't check behind here. I know we have 270bigs but we're going broke with a set against this guy if he does has an overset and that would just be too toasty for the guy (3-bet button, actually have a hand and flop set over set -mbn). I think if we check raise and he has an ace like AK/AQ and makes the mistake of calling we've inflated the pot early and have 2 more streets to bite at his stack/get the lot.

If he checks behind then we just lead turn and our hand is disguised as we could have nothing as often as we can have set here and we could get paid from genuine hands that don't like the ace KK/QQ or induce him to bluff.

I led for 1600 and he pops it to 5,100.

Whats our action considering were OOP and villain has us covered?

The player is obviously been on the tour a lot as all the more recongised people are all coming to talk to him, i.e. DC, Rumit, Will Flood, Willie Tann etc  Does this change anything?

It depends - can't treat Mad Turk or Ali Mallu the same as Surinder or Tikay.

The name of the guy would help Neil

Worst case he has AA/JJ that have us beat.  Poss on flush draw with the re-raise....  He could be re-popping with the 2 hands that have us beat.  AK or AJ? Personally I shove here, and close my eyes when he snaps and turns over JJ....

Neil the villian was the founder of Bad Beat, that's why all the pros are coming to talk to him!

I think you've done fine.

If you re-re-raise small now isn't your hand kind of face up? I'd be tempted to shove to at least make him think you might have a massive draw

You have the same info as I had at the time

I don't mind the check raise here actually as quite a few people do this with the FD and it looks soo bad.

as soon as the guy re-raises to 5100 my chips are in.

Are you both saying here that whatever way we play it we are only trying to get them all in here?

Yes

Neil its tough for you here really in the sense that you don't know John Conroy. Not that he's a lunatic but you did see like me his all in bluff with 10 high in level one, so all you have to go on is he looks like Mr Mover, the all time Moves champion

he can have AK/AQ/AJ just as likely JJ/AA, or he can have clubs.....or he thinks you've bet clubs and he's trying to get you off the draw with any pocket pair. All are possible

I'd ship it in here and if has a bigger set so be it

I understand what your saying but with 270 BB's deep at the start of the hand surely we should be able to find a way to find out if we are ahead or not?

I might be completely up the wrong alley here, but make it say 5k more and your hand is face up. worse hands fold. Yes you find out if you are beat

ship it in and worse hands might call?

Really?

What worse hand is gonna call here unless he has something like KQ cc for the combi draw?

Worse hands aren't calling if you getting 270bigs in the middle unless in true blatchly style he has AJ here. I flat and am happy to get them all in on any non club turn.

AJ?

Maybe AJ, but deffo AA and JJ and therefore our of a range of 3 I dont want to putting them in only beating one

I like this line.

The range is bigger than three though. Nut clubs/AK etc

saw loads of live donks spew off whole stacks with top pair crappy kicker in the first two levels yesterday. I don't think some of them are thinking "this is 250xbb deep, I should not stack off with one pair", they just like their hands!

Conroy almost stacked off with 10 high, albeit he was the pusher not the caller

Not sure why you narrowed his range to only 3 hands here? There are 2 hands that beat you and a zillion that you are ahead of.. I like Flatting his raise and seeing the turn, as you let him off too easy by sticking in the 3-bet. Definately look to get stacks in though against this player, who you already seen likes to apply pressure and make some moves

If villain has recently moved all-in on a 10-high bluff why would you push here? This oppo has demonstrated a tendancy to make moves without cards and the pushing strat will strangle the life out of his scope to do that. Pushing forces this guy into a situation where he can only put his chips in with strong cards and folds everything else. I think you should flat the raise and check the turn to give him a chance to put chips in with weak cards. Weak leading the turn also has merit. Also worrying about villain having A-A or J-J is a pretty pointless exercise.

hi neil mate. checkraise is standard obviously. b/3b looks super strong. b/c is cool too then maybe lead turn if he thinks ur a donk, coz tbh who uses this line with a balanced range? and yes we get this in quite happily 270bb deep imo.